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Shockeye
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on: April 28, 2005, 08:42:03 AM

Quote from: Reuters
Ivory Billed Woodpecker, Feared Extinct, Isn't
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent
1 hour, 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The ivory-billed woodpecker, long feared extinct, has been seen in a remote part of Arkansas 60 years after the last confirmed U.S. sighting, ornithologists said on Thursday.
 
Several experts have spotted and heard an ivory-billed woodpecker in a protected forest in eastern Arkansas near the last reliable sighting of the bird in 1944, and one was captured on video last year.

"The ivory-billed woodpecker (Campephilus principalis), long suspected to be extinct, has been rediscovered in the 'Big Woods' region of eastern Arkansas," researchers wrote in the journal Science in an article hastily prepared for release.

Drumming sounds made by the birds have also been heard, the researchers said.

"This is huge. Just huge," said Frank Gill, senior ornithologist at the Audubon Society. "It is kind of like finding Elvis."

Gill said there is little doubt the sightings are genuine. One male was videotaped from a boat in 2004.

"The ivory-billed woodpecker is one of six North American bird species suspected or known to have gone extinct since 1880," wrote the researchers, led by John Fitzpatrick of the Cornell University Laboratory of Ornithology in New York.

"The others are Labrador duck (Camptorhynchus labradorius), Eskimo curlew (Numenius borealis), Carolina parakeet (Conuropsis carolinensis), passenger pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius), and Bachman's warbler (Vermivora bachmanii)."

"LORD GOD" BIRD

A large, dramatic-looking bird, the ivory-billed woodpecker was known to be shy and to prefer the deep woods of the U.S. Southeast. It was sometimes nicknamed the "Lord, God bird," Fitzpatrick told reporters in a telephone briefing.

"It is such a striking bird. When people would see it they would say, 'Lord, God what a woodpecker.' That's where it came from," he said.

As the name suggests, the birds have ivory-colored bills that help distinguish them from the similar but much more common pileated woodpecker.

The large black-and-white birds have distinctive white wing patches and measure at least 13 inches (34 cm) from "wrist" to tail. Males have a red crest.

The survival of ivory bills is closely tied to that of the deep, swampy forests it lived in. "Its disappearance coincided with systematic annihilation of virgin tall forests across southeastern United States between 1880 and the 1940s," the researchers wrote.

The last confirmed sighting was in 1988 in eastern Cuba but the U.S. bird is considered to be a separate "race," the Audubon society says.

"There have been lots and lots of reports and many of them have been off but others have been possible," Gill said in a telephone interview. "But this time we got it."

Gill said the bird was seen just over the border from Louisiana where the last documented ivory-bill was seen in 1944. "As a woodpecker flies it's not far," he said.

The birds only live about 15 years so the sightings mean they must be breeding somewhere.

"There has got to be a pretty serious lineage," Gill said. "It's got to be more than a few."

"If there is a next holy grail ... the next holy grail would be to find a mated pair," Fitzpatrick said.

People are likely to flock to the area to try to see the birds themselves but it will be difficult, Gill said.

"It is not something you just go down and see. Your odds are very low," Gill said. "It is remote, difficult country. This time of year it is getting very buggy and very snakey and there is a lot of foliage."

But the discovery may help get protection for a larger area of the Big Woods, the nonprofit Nature Conservancy said.

Fitzpatrick said some of the hardwood trees the birds depend on have grown back after logging in the early part of the 20th century. "The conditions are only going to get better," he said.

"In concept, at least, it is possible the worst for this bird has passed. Proper management could let it thrive again," Fitzpatrick added.

It's all well and good that we're not down another species, but to equate finding this bird to finding Elvis is stupid and ignorant.
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Reply #1 on: April 28, 2005, 08:43:03 AM

Yes Elvis is much better at hiding than a bird. Long live the king!

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Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 11:39:46 AM

It's all well and good that we're not down another species, but to equate finding this bird to finding Elvis is stupid and ignorant.

The analogy isn't stupid and ignorant, the laypeople for whom the analogy was made are stupid and ignorant. Do you know how difficult it is for biologists to convince the public of the importance of discovering something like this (or the mere existence of most species in general)? Especially for critters that aren't cute and fuzzy, or charismatic like the bald eagle. Most people who read that article were probably like, "A woodpecker? Who gives a shit?"

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Reply #3 on: May 02, 2005, 01:34:42 PM

Hence why the "common people" get out of shape whether snaildarters, owls, and cod populations have any importance at all.

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Reply #4 on: May 03, 2005, 09:00:11 AM

To put it in perspective, time-wise, the last reliable sighting of Elvis was in 1977, before he died on the crapper.  The last reliable sighting of this species was in 1944, before it apparently went extinct.  So the woodpecker's been "dead" for 33 years longer than Elvis has.

I don't think the "like finding Elvis" is meant as a reflection on the relative cultural importance of Elvis and the bird, it's a reflection of how unlikely they thought it'd be that they'd ever see the bird alive again.
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Reply #5 on: May 04, 2005, 01:24:11 PM

Well holy shit! I bet this is like finding THREE Elvises.

Quote from: AP
Three Snails Thought Extinct Discovered

Wed May 4,12:29 PM ET

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - Three snails listed as extinct have been rediscovered in the Coosa and Cahaba rivers, the Nature Conservancy announced Tuesday.

Jeff Garner, the Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources' mollusk biologist, rediscovered the cobble elimia and the nodulose Coosa River snail on a dive in the Coosa River.

Stephanie Clark, a University of Alabama postdoctoral student from Australia, stumbled onto a Cahaba pebblesnail on a trip to the Cahaba River in Bibb County.

The findings, being announced by the Nature Conservancy, were reported Tuesday by The Birmingham News.

Alabama is known to be the nation's top spot for extinct and imperiled mollusks, the snails and mussels in river beds. Many were lost as dams were built along the Coosa River from 1917 to 1967, when it became a series of reservoirs.

In recent years, scientists have discovered some species hiding in the streams between reservoirs where the Coosa retains some of its original habitat.

Garner went diving below Lake Logan Martin and found two species that had not been spotted since the dams changed the river. Clark was accompanying a graduate student to the Cahaba River National Wildlife Refuge when she found the Cahaba pebblesnail that had not been spotted since 1965.

Garner, who has found several other species believed to be extinct, knew what he had immediately.

"One of these I found is pretty distinctive," Garner told the News. "I've always said it was my favorite snail — I hated it was extinct. It sort of has teardrops around the periphery."

Clark, who began postdoctoral research at the University of Alabama last year, didn't know what she had found at first.

"Behold, there was this oddball snail under a rock," Clark said. "I didn't know that I'd found an extinct one straightaway, but I knew I'd found something that I hadn't seen before."

The Cahaba pebblesnail — round, yellow, only about a quarter of an inch long — had not been spotted since 1965.
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Reply #6 on: May 04, 2005, 01:25:39 PM

What rock has he been living under?


Oh, that one.

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Reply #7 on: May 04, 2005, 01:31:07 PM

Oregon's endangered species list doesn't cover invertebrates, but we have an SOC (species-of-concern) that is none other than the Oregon giant earthworm:


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Reply #8 on: May 04, 2005, 01:34:41 PM

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SOC (species-of-concern) that is none other than the Oregon giant earthworm:

I can see why it is called a specied of concern, I find that species pretty concerning myself.  I'm concerned I'll run into one someday and not be properly armed to fend it off.

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Reply #9 on: May 04, 2005, 01:40:05 PM

Oregon's endangered species list doesn't cover invertebrates, but we have an SOC (species-of-concern) that is none other than the Oregon giant earthworm:

Ah I've wondered for some weeks where DreamWorks got the idea one fishes for sharks with worms.

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Reply #10 on: May 04, 2005, 01:42:22 PM

Yes I have kids.  Yes I watch the same children's movies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and <snip>

Recently, when my son was in the hospital, I got to watch "Finding Nemo" for a whole day. Over and over again.

And then the next day.

And the day after that.

And...
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