Nintendo might just be retarded.

[schild]

Shamelessly stolen from Slashdot:

"Cube.IGN is reporting that Brooke Burgess (of Broken Saints) has let the proverbial cat out of the bag concerning Nintendo's new Revolution console. The big secret (assuming the rumors are true)? 3D projection." From the article: "At the core of the theory sits how Revolution will display games: through a form of real-time 3D projection. That's right folks, along the lines of a classic 50s monster movie. Nintendo itself has stated that what it plans to use on Revolution isn't all that unique, only that it has never been applied to videogames. Taking that into account, plus recent patents filed by Nintendo, and it doesn't sound all that far fetched, argues Burgess." As always, take this with a grain of salt.

Seriously. I'm not all that much rooting for Nintendo because I know, given the life of any Nintendo system, they won't make more than 10 games that say "buy me" when I'm in a store. But comeon. Are they this stupid? It's just not possible. IT'S UNPOSSIBLE.

[Fabricated]

Awesome, if it's similar to most 3d projection techniques, this will be the first console since the virtual boy that I can't play, since I only have one functioning eye!

Who do I make the check out to?

[HaemishM]

The Virtual Cube?

I want what they are smoking over there.

[Yegolev]

I'm sorry... I don't get it.  You mean 3D glasses like MuppetVision 3D, or a chiropractor's wet dream like the Virutal Boy?  Damn you, Nintendo!  You aren't the same woman I married!

[Paelos]

I'm sorry... I don't get it.  You mean 3D glasses like MuppetVision 3D, or a chiropractor's wet dream like the Virutal Boy?  Damn you, Nintendo!  You aren't the same woman I married!

ZEE GOGGLES, ZEH DO NUTING!

[Sky]

The Virtual Cube?

I want what they are smoking over there.

[chong] Must be that 'nam weed, man. That stuff'll mess you up![/chong]

[Samprimary]

I guess they wanted to continue their ground-breaking innovation in the genre of 'game platforms that give you blurry vision and terrible headaches'. They still hold a near monopoly in that market compliments of Virtual Boy.

[Paelos]

Those who don't remember their own history are doomed to repeat it.

In 3D...

[Jobu]

I figured this was as good a thread as any to insert this. Looks like Nintendo is finally getting away from kid's games, and branching out into mature themed titles.

http://www.touchdic.co.kr/

I have absolutely no idea what it's really supposed to be, but it made me giggle. (Yes, I still have the humor of an 8 year old)

[schild]

Go to the "Showroom" on the touchdic webpage. They still have the "Nintendo Official" seal of approval that they got rid of in america in the early 90s. Amazing.

[Trippy]

I figured this was as good a thread as any to insert this. Looks like Nintendo is finally getting away from kid's games, and branching out into mature themed titles.

http://www.touchdic.co.kr/

I have absolutely no idea what it's really supposed to be, but it made me giggle. (Yes, I still have the humor of an 8 year old)

Heh, that's actually a dictionary/translator as in Touch(screen)Dic(tionary), but I agree that's a funny name for a product.

[Yegolev]

I figured this was as good a thread as any to insert this. Looks like Nintendo is finally getting away from kid's games, and branching out into mature themed titles.

http://www.touchdic.co.kr/

I sometimes wish I was Korean so that I would be eternally happy with stupid shit.

The word "finally" is misused here, please see Eternal Darkness.  I would probably say "too late" if I didn't love N so much.

[Sky]

Er...Resident Evil, anyone? Nintendo does have a very small yet excellent selection of adult-themed titles (not pr0n, Hammy). You can't really fault Nintendo for not having a wider selection, because they don't have a wide selection of anything. But the few they have are good.

I just scored a complete guide to RE4, some kid printed it out but didn't want to pay for it. Thanks, kid! Now I gotta get RE4...

[schild]

You really don't need a guide for RE4. In fact the ingame map after you buy the treasure map has too much information on it.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, the maps you buy are invaluable. There are few fights that require you to really know a "trick" to beat them. It's a great game with lots of different little mini-game type challenges thrown at you to keep things fresher than just "hallway with zombies SHOOT SHOOT!"

Game of the Year, IMO.

[Sky]

Oh, I'd never seek one out. Just saying I got one for free is all.

Your feedback should shed some light on the mentality of the kids that come in to use the internet.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, kids that NEED strategy guides to RE4 should really be forced to play ET on the Atari 2600.

FOR 36 STRAIGHT HOURS.

[Furiously]

I borrowed a relatives 2600 a few months ago.

Needless to say - I returned in 4 days later.

[AOFanboi]

Needless to say - I returned in 4 days later.

You wouldn't have if it had any of the kick-ass Activision titles like River Raid or Pitfall.

But then again, you can play those on a PS2 or GBA so why bother.

[Sky]

I borrowed a relatives 2600 a few months ago.

Needless to say - I returned in 4 days later.

You guys and your subliminal hacker references.

[Alluvian]

3d technology has really come a long way, but it won't work on a television set due to refresh rate issues.  The problem with this is that the price will be silly or the screen will be TINY.  Neither one is much fun.

I do love my 3d shutter glasses, the issue is that game programmers don't really program in 3d.  The sort of do, but then do stupid things like putting the sky at a depth closer than distant mountains and objects in the sky like moons really close (that one from unreal tournament).  Or they do the game in great 3d but then have no depth to the lightsources (GTA, NWN, countless other too many to mention).  Or they can't figure out how to make a proper 3d crosshair (almost every shooter except a very few).

If the 3d screen was a given when making the game these problems would all vanish.  But you are still left with the problems of what kind of display they are using.  Anything bought with the system will just jack up the price, and price is a huge selling point in the console wars.

[AOFanboi]

Eurogamer reports 3D rumors are rubbish.

However, moving up to E3, Nintendo will apparently launch the next incarnation in the Gameboy series (remember, the DS isn't one, it can just play GBA games). Could be the reason they will wait with the Revolution, whatever that "revolution" aspect is. Even though it apparently isn't 3D goggles.

Maybe a GBP (GameBoy Palm) running PalmOS which Nintendo has licensed is waiting in the wings? Plz be, my Palm Vx is getting old.

[Trippy]

Eurogamer reports 3D rumors are rubbish.

The latest rumor is that it'll have some sort of force-sensitive controller and voice control:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/06/news_6123850.html

[schild]

Whatever it is, it'll have Mario and not be near as good as the PS3 or Xbox 360. See, in the next war I have a goddamn good feeling that 3rd Party support will switch from a "choice" into a necessity. Online Gaming will become a huge deciding factor as well. Nintendo is going to fail miserably in both of those categories. Not because I want them to, but because it's inevitable.

[Trippy]

Online Gaming will become a huge deciding factor as well. Nintendo is going to fail miserably in both of those categories. Not because I want them to, but because it's inevitable.

Yeah Nintendo's online "strategy" (or lack thereof) has puzzled me for a while since they are known for having the best party games so you would think that sort of multi-player game design experience would translate into cool, original, online games. And they don't even have Sony's excuse of not having a built-in hard drive since the memory card expansion capabilities on the GameCube are far greater than the PS2's (and at least an order of magnitude cheaper too) so while you wouldn't necessarily be able to download lots of content (extra maps and stuff) you would still have plenty of room for saving profiles and extras.

[schild]

Both Nintendo and Sony got creamed on the memory portion of the system by Microsoft. They did it the right way, though they should have made the system harder to mod. Other than that, harddrives should be an option at launch on all 3 systems. If they aren't, shame on him/them.

[Llava]

This could be cool....

if they did it like this:



But I kinda doubt it will be like that.  Just a bit.

[schild]

Pinball is going to be AWESOME.

[Alluvian]

This could be cool....

if they did it like this:



But I kinda doubt it will be like that.  Just a bit.

We have had 3d displays that can do that for at least a decade.  They have to bottom project, and the eye has to at least partially be looking down into the projector for the illusion to work, but they are out there.  The problem is the same problem with the star wars holograms, they are not very crisp images and don't do well rendering anything other than a few objects.  Those objects also have to be 100% visible in the viewing area or the 3d illusion breaks.  So any kind of background or ground is impossible.

They would also be prohibitively expensive if you made them any bigger than 'way too small'.

Anyway, the 3d rumors were around last e3 as well, at that time there was thought that a 3d projector of sorts would be an accessory to the gamecube.  They have a patent, so the rumors will be there for every new product they make.

I bet the PS4 is going to have lots of rumors about it coming with headgear so you can control it with your brainwaves, because they have a patent on theoretical technology regarding that.

[schild]

I bet the PS4 is going to have lots of rumors about it coming with headgear so you can control it with your brainwaves, because they have a patent on theoretical technology regarding that.

Didn't they already have advertisements for that when the PS2 was coming out? I think it was subliminal for what they want in the PS9. Either that or they were just *that frickin cool.*

[Llava]

This could be cool....

if they did it like this:



But I kinda doubt it will be like that.  Just a bit.

We have had 3d displays that can do that for at least a decade.  They have to bottom project, and the eye has to at least partially be looking down into the projector for the illusion to work, but they are out there.  The problem is the same problem with the star wars holograms, they are not very crisp images and don't do well rendering anything other than a few objects.  Those objects also have to be 100% visible in the viewing area or the 3d illusion breaks.  So any kind of background or ground is impossible.

They would also be prohibitively expensive if you made them any bigger than 'way too small'.

Anyway, the 3d rumors were around last e3 as well, at that time there was thought that a 3d projector of sorts would be an accessory to the gamecube.  They have a patent, so the rumors will be there for every new product they make.

I bet the PS4 is going to have lots of rumors about it coming with headgear so you can control it with your brainwaves, because they have a patent on theoretical technology regarding that.

Yeah, I know.  Some arcade games are (or were, anyways... I haven't been to an arcade in a long time) done with this.  Doesn't make it any more likely that it'll be done like that.

[HaemishM]

I would like to think Nintendo has learned the error of their ways in regards to online services. Live has set a new bar in console games. It's all well and good to say that the new Nintendo system will launch with a free Internet service that's better than anything out there, but show me. That's a long walk to make.

And for games, it doesn't matter how good your online service is if you only have 7 3rd party developers making games. Nintendo still hasn't realized that the biggest stumbling block to the Gamecube wasn't the tech or the quality of games or the baby-sized controllers, it was the fact that even X-Box had a greater selection of games available. RE4 was one of the best games ever, but the PS2 has shown, more games, even if crappy, means more system sales.

[AOFanboi]

The PS2 and XBox also made a few sales on the DVD playback ability, which is not an option at all on the 'Cube. Online gaming on the PS2 never really took off either - maybe that was what Nintendo looked at, not Microsoft's success which was largely Western in nature.

That said, the Nintendo DS last week (or the week before that?) sold as much as ALL other consoles COMBINED - in Japan. Fear the coming of Nintendogs/Puppy Times to your region.

[Righ]

This could be cool....

if they did it like this:



But I kinda doubt it will be like that.  Just a bit.

From the same site, boring words and shit:

http://www.pangolin.com/resguide03b.htm

[Jain Zar]

The PS2 and XBox also made a few sales on the DVD playback ability, which is not an option at all on the 'Cube. Online gaming on the PS2 never really took off either - maybe that was what Nintendo looked at, not Microsoft's success which was largely Western in nature.

That said, the Nintendo DS last week (or the week before that?) sold as much as ALL other consoles COMBINED - in Japan. Fear the coming of Nintendogs/Puppy Times to your region.

I use my X Box more for its solid DVD playback than I do as a game machine.  PS2?  Not so much since its playback kinda sucks. 
And there is nothing wrong with the Nintendo DS that couldn't be fixed by hitting whoever is setting up game design requirements for the thing on the head with an iron skillet a few dozen times.

Pac Pix is qute the game.

As to the Revolution?  Ive heard rumors the whole controller is a touch screen thing like the DS.  At the moment its all speculation.  Sony is gonna play it safe, Microsoft will continue to push for Set Top Box/Online Crap You Can Do On a PC With Less Hassle and Money, and Nintendo will keep whoring their IP and doing the odd bugfuck bizarre thing and hope one of their wierder ideas manages to stick.

Im afraid the best thing about X Box Live gaming was when I cancelled the service, unhooked the router, and got to put away a 12 foot plus spool of cable so my house doesn't look as ghetto.