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Reply #105 on: November 18, 2006, 11:15:59 AM

BF2 looks great on it, there's a custom resolution guide on the net somewhere that worked great for me.

You'll end up doing ~ 1800x1100 iirc.

Well - I'm a few bucks poorer. Bought the 60 inch version last night, so my tv peen is huge!

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Reply #106 on: November 18, 2006, 11:25:34 AM

BF2 looks great on it, there's a custom resolution guide on the net somewhere that worked great for me.

You'll end up doing ~ 1800x1100 iirc.

Well - I'm a few bucks poorer. Bought the 60 inch version last night, so my tv peen is huge!

Both MrHat and I have that TV. Its fucking awesome. Now go get a Xbox 360 if you dont already have one.
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Reply #107 on: November 18, 2006, 03:43:09 PM

Or a PS3. Ho Ho Ho.

Seriously though, get an Xbox - if only for Dead Rising.
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Reply #108 on: November 18, 2006, 04:46:07 PM

My TV-peen is actually an Innie, if it ever existed at all.

I'm going to be so disappointed when I have to give up my current TV for a new HD set in 2 years. The Tank has served me well.

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Reply #109 on: November 18, 2006, 06:49:57 PM

BF2 looks great on it, there's a custom resolution guide on the net somewhere that worked great for me.

You'll end up doing ~ 1800x1100 iirc.

Well - I'm a few bucks poorer. Bought the 60 inch version last night, so my tv peen is huge!

Both MrHat and I have that TV. Its fucking awesome. Now go get a Xbox 360 if you dont already have one.

I'd love any input on how you got your PC's to work well with it. Having a heck of a time hitting any resolutions above 1280. Also like to say ATI drivers are pure crap still. Or if you could point me to the custom resolution guide.

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Reply #110 on: November 20, 2006, 07:19:19 AM

I have to admit I'm a custom resolution moron. I just use 1280x720. I've found the Omega drivers are much better about different resolutions, like Civ4 which won't goddamned play in 16:9, it's 16:10 and the ATI drivers were crappy with a vertical 768 res. Omega at least lets me play until I remember how bland the game is.

I'll probably grab a 360 right about here.
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Reply #111 on: November 20, 2006, 08:32:57 AM

If I don't have a 360 by the time that game rolls around, I'll have a hard time resisting the system's siren call.

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Reply #112 on: November 20, 2006, 08:39:42 AM

That there's some nice shiney.

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Reply #113 on: November 20, 2006, 08:42:21 AM

I like the sounds more than anything actually.

But yeah, looks cool.

I'm more looking forward to Assassin's Creed though.
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Reply #114 on: November 20, 2006, 09:16:29 AM

That there's some nice shiney.
Shiny is nice. But shiny like that in a Bioware RPG? Yeah.
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Reply #115 on: November 20, 2006, 12:39:30 PM

Gosh ATI has shitty drivers. I can get it to, 1920x1080 but it is overscanned. Then 1/2 the time I can take it down to like 1800x1016 or something, then on reboot it won't work, the other half it just won't do anything, then I have to take it to 720 then back up again. Then it won't go back to 1800 (underscanned for the whole). Or on reboot it will say it is unsupported.

I'll have to bring my gaming machine down and give it a try.

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Reply #116 on: November 24, 2006, 10:05:25 AM

Are you using HDMI? I had a ton of problems with my VGA, switched to HDMI, and my ATI x800 literally said "SONY HDTV" and all was good.  I had to tweak the resolution a bit and it's sitting at like 1800x1000 or so.
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Reply #117 on: November 27, 2006, 12:08:08 AM

If I turn it on without a 2nd screen/lcd it does to some never-never land and then I have to switch it back on the other monitor. I just don't think the wife will appreciate the asthetics of a 15" lcd next to her 60" tv...

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Reply #118 on: November 27, 2006, 09:26:54 AM

I used VGA, and put the TV on input 8, which is also labeled PC Input. It seems that the Input 8 runs at much higher resolution. When I used HDMI, it seemed to run much lower res. Basically I plugged it in and let windows plug and play detect a new "Sony Monitor" and then I have to put all my computer settings on Extra Large Text, cause the resolution was so high.
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Reply #119 on: November 27, 2006, 09:36:49 AM

Morph, are you sure it's high rez? I couldn't get the vga "PC Input" to go higher than 1280x720.
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Reply #120 on: November 27, 2006, 09:47:18 AM

Morph, are you sure it's high rez? I couldn't get the vga "PC Input" to go higher than 1280x720.

I was pretty sure it was, cause I normally run my PC at 1180xWhatever, and when I plugged in to the VGA port everything was sooooo small, I had to adjust all the text and icon sizes.
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Reply #121 on: November 27, 2006, 09:50:36 AM

Do me a favor and check when you can.
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Reply #122 on: November 27, 2006, 10:14:49 AM

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Reply #123 on: November 27, 2006, 10:17:47 AM

Do me a favor and check when you can.

Wont be for a few weeks. All my stuff is all over the place, cause we are getting new floors installed.
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Reply #124 on: November 27, 2006, 10:19:23 AM

Daddy's new baby. Unfortunately it was a bit premature, so I can't bring it home yet (they sold the last one about an hour before I got the the damned store). I can't WAIT...nipples are hard in giddy anticipation.

Grats WAP, you wont be disappointed. I bought mine a while ago, and I have yet to see a better picture on any new TV. The thing is fucking awesome. Gears of War on this TV is one of the best looking game experiences ever.
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Reply #125 on: November 27, 2006, 10:45:22 AM

Congrats man!

Unfortunately, I've gotten to the point that my TV isn't 'new' to me anymore.  But having people over constantly reinforce my Vpeen.

It's hot shit.  Although, I think I need to get a repair man out (warranty ftw) to take a look at something that resembles a crescent shadow just above and to the right of the center point of my TV.  Not sure what it is, a ghost in the machine perhaps.

Also, I bought a Pioneer Elite VSX-8TX a few months ago (before I started my new job!) and just recently set it up. The reason I wanted a high end receiver was because I was running out of HDMI plugs with my computer, dvd player, and a couple more things (hopefully a 360/PS3, a man can dream).  But now I have EVERYTHING plugged into the receiver (not my CPU, shuttle was down and I'm not gonna hook it back up till I finish the basement), and I'm not sure if that's the best way to plug it in, even though the receiver has a built in upscaler.  Just don't feel like I'm getting the most out of all the TV functions I have (since there's only one thing plugged into my TV now, the receiver via HDMI).

Oh, and I've got Definitive Technologies 2x ProMonitor 1000 Fronts, 2x ProMonitor 800 Rears, ProCenter 1000 and ProSub 1000 for the surround sound waiting for my basement to be finished too. I sure as hell cashed out of Best Buy :-D
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Reply #126 on: November 27, 2006, 12:02:16 PM

Woohoo! Another in the club! Can't wait until WAP checks out BF2 on da big screen :)

Now I'm feeling a little jealous with my 'old' 720p set :P

Re: resolution. I've always meant to try and coax higher resolutions out of my set, but I'm not sure it's possible with DVI. One thing that makes me wonder is that it can do 1280x768 (iirc, that's what Civ4 will do rather than 1280x720), but only with Omega drivers (9800pro). Maybe with the analog port you can juice it higher? I do, however, have an entirely different technology, only the same in the fixed-pixel nature...
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Reply #127 on: November 27, 2006, 12:56:22 PM

Looks like the MPAA wants to watch me watch movies on my TV.

Little do they know that I regularly watch TV in nothing but a banana hammock.

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Reply #128 on: November 27, 2006, 01:41:43 PM

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Reply #129 on: November 27, 2006, 02:38:09 PM


That has GOT to be a joke. The amount of money it would require just to make that system workable is OBSCENE, not to mention the asstons upon asstons of data that would have to be compiled. Considering that they are talking about retrofitting old equipment, I can't even imagine that would be legal because of the EULA's people would have in place from their old tech.

Not to mention the fact that it is a completely retarded fucking idea, further taking that DVD you bought away from being a purchase into being a rental. Fuck you, MPAA, there's a reason DivX died.

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Reply #131 on: November 28, 2006, 04:42:04 AM

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Reply #132 on: November 28, 2006, 06:58:24 AM

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Reply #133 on: December 18, 2006, 01:52:45 PM

So, my tv was FINALLY delivered on Friday, which, of course, was the only day I didn't have power (big storm knocked out power to 1.5M+ folks 'round here). Saturday we went down and got an HD DVR from Comcast and a TV stand, and got everything set up. I had some issues with a non-HD channel looking like total shit- ghosts and whatnot. Tinkered with the settings on the cable box and TV a bit, but I am still not enamored of the quality, especially for a sporting event (Hockey Night In Canada- has HD not been exported to the north yet? WTF??).

OTOH, the HD channels look fucking AMAZING. If my TV was a woman I might be forced to leave my wife.

Any advice on getting regular channels to look better? And all you Canucks on the board- get on the horn to CBC and get HNIC in HD ASAP. OK?  evil

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Reply #134 on: December 18, 2006, 02:05:06 PM

ghosts and whatnot.
OH NOES! ;)

Ehh...I just got used to the SD channels looking crappy. Turn off any 'sharpening' if your tv does that (DNIe on mine). Fox doesn't do HD on Time Warner around here yet, so we have to flip between an HD game and SD game...blah.
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Reply #135 on: December 18, 2006, 02:09:39 PM

Any advice on getting regular channels to look better? And all you Canucks on the board- get on the horn to CBC and get HNIC in HD ASAP. OK?  evil

We can get HNIC in High Def, so WHO CARES ABOUT YOU!?

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/hdtv/
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Reply #136 on: December 18, 2006, 02:17:11 PM

ghosts and whatnot.
OH NOES! ;)

Ehh...I just got used to the SD channels looking crappy. Turn off any 'sharpening' if your tv does that (DNIe on mine). Fox doesn't do HD on Time Warner around here yet, so we have to flip between an HD game and SD game...blah.
Yeah some of the stuff is counter-intuitive.  I had to turn down sharpness, contrast, brightness and blackness to get the picture the way I like it.  For SD, since it is displaying the same image only larger all of the imperfections get exaggerated, I stopped noticing it after a while too.  I also stretch the SD to fit the screen, I can't even notice that anymore.

When you say ghosting do you mean old antenna type ghosting of seeing bits of channel 3 on channel 4 or do you mean that if a person runs from left to right they leave a trail of themselves?  If the latter I've never seen that and would be concerned that something was wrong, you should also wait until after the break-in period to see if some of that goes away.
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Reply #137 on: December 18, 2006, 04:21:28 PM

Any advice on getting regular channels to look better? And all you Canucks on the board- get on the horn to CBC and get HNIC in HD ASAP. OK?  evil

We can get HNIC in High Def, so WHO CARES ABOUT YOU!?

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/hdtv/

Saturday, Dec. 16     NYR vs TOR [National] HD
OTT vs BUF [Ottawa]
PIT vs MON [Que/Atl, no Nfld]
MIN vs VAN [National]    7 pm
7 pm
7 pm
10 pm

I got the Pit v Mon game and the Min v Van game, so that might explain it. Is there a separate HD channel for CBC, or is the same as the broadcast channel (99 on my cable system- very appropriate!).

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Reply #138 on: December 18, 2006, 04:22:45 PM

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When you say ghosting do you mean old antenna type ghosting of seeing bits of channel 3 on channel 4 or do you mean that if a person runs from left to right they leave a trail of themselves?  If the latter I've never seen that and would be concerned that something was wrong, you should also wait until after the break-in period to see if some of that goes away.

I am just seeing an outline of each player, so more like the latter. The HD feeds look spectacular though, so I don't think anything is wrong with the set. I hope.

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Reply #139 on: December 18, 2006, 07:21:36 PM

I had some issues with a non-HD channel looking like total shit- ghosts and whatnot. Tinkered with the settings on the cable box and TV a bit, but I am still not enamored of the quality, especially for a sporting event (Hockey Night In Canada- has HD not been exported to the north yet? WTF??).

OTOH, the HD channels look fucking AMAZING. If my TV was a woman I might be forced to leave my wife.

Any advice on getting regular channels to look better? And all you Canucks on the board- get on the horn to CBC and get HNIC in HD ASAP. OK?  evil

Dollars to doughnuts your lower channels are being served up in an analog feed, even if you're on 'digital cable'.  Ghosting, etc is a common issue, particularly when you have a local channel broadcasting on the same frequency that the analog channel is using.  Locally, the company I work for has a common issue on a handful of channels, particularly in houses with bad plant.  That said, we're converting all channels (including the formerly 'analog' ones) to digital feeds for digital subscribers - as an employee, I'm 'beta testing' the digital feeds for the lower channels currently and the difference is night and day.

To clean it up, you'll likely have to call the cable company.  You might want to check the other sets in your house and see if they all exhibit the problem - if not, you may be able to replace the line running to your glorious new set and fix it yourself - if they're all fuckered, it's likely outside.

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