Kingdom of Heaven

[Sky]

The fuck?  I think this is the first time I have actually ever heard anybody say a bad thing about Gladiator, let alone a group of people.

Welcome to f13.

Ask schild about Tarantino.

[HaemishM]

No. Just... no.

[schild]

Fucking Tarantino fucking sucks more fucking donkey dick than fucking fetishistic specialty porn stars.

Fucking Tarantino.

[MrHat]

Because I want to see what happens.

[schild]

[WayAbvPar]

You should have posted the big one.

[schild]

You should have posted the big one.

F13.net is all about it's narrowband users.

[jpark]

F13 has great game commentary.

It's views on film bewilder me 

[HaemishM]

f13 has multiple views on film. I think Tarantino is perhaps overrated, but has managed some good stuff in the past (pre-Kill Bill multi-film shit whoring). schild wants Tarantino strung up by the neck with the film strip from Eyes Wide Shut as his noose.

Shockeye has no opinion. We don't let him have one except on Yom Kippur.

[Shockeye]

Shockeye has no opinion. We don't let him have one except on Yom Kippur.

Two words: Cabin Boy

[Furiously]

Swamp Fox, The  (1959-60)
The adventures of Francis Marion, an American Revolutionary War guerrilla leader who fought the British in the forests and swamps of the Carolinas.  Disney mini-series, with Leslie Nielson.

and: Would you like to buy a monkey?

[HaemishM]

Shockeye has no opinion. We don't let him have one except on Yom Kippur.

Two words: Cabin Boy

You're 6 months too early.

[Shockeye]

Shockeye has no opinion. We don't let him have one except on Yom Kippur.

Two words: Cabin Boy

You're 6 months too early.

Damnit. Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah, Arbor Day, I get them all confused.

[WayAbvPar]

Holidays be damned- Cabin Boy was still a solid flick. I <3 Chris Elliott.

[Fargull]

I am of the opinion that Schild was strapped to a chair with eyes clasped open watching Pulp Fiction stuck on auto replay over the first two minutes of the Bring Out the Gimp scene from Pulp Fiction with a Three Stooges laugh track playing in the back ground.

Am I wrong?

[stray]

I'm of the opinion that he once actually liked Pulp Fiction (probably a lot), but feels the need to hate Tarantino completely simply because he didn't like Kill Bill.

[Rasix]

Lets not take this to the bad place.  Mmm k?  No more T word.

[stray]

No more T word.

*scratches head*

Is that something like the H word and the B word?

edit: love your avatar btw 

[Sky]

Holidays be damned- Cabin Boy was still a solid flick. I <3 Chris Elliott.

You teabag Chris Elliott? :)

Oh...woops I pressed the T button as a joke, kids. Sorry.

(but seriously, he's a great filmaker if you're not some asian cultural elitist, heh)

[Sky]

(not that there's anything wrong with that)

[schild]

I'm of the opinion that he once actually liked Pulp Fiction (probably a lot), but feels the need to hate Tarantino completely simply because he didn't like Kill Bill.

Pulp Fiction was a solid movie. Resevoir Dogs is a solid dialogue piece.

On principle, I simply hate the fucker.

[ahoythematey]

L.A. Confidential was awesome and I enjoyed A Beautiful Mind regardless of it's questionable representation of real events, but for my money Crowe's best performance is still from The Insider.

[schild]

Crowe's best performance is still from The Insider.

Yes. Most underrated Crowe movie.

[MrHat]

He likes a good fighting.

[Shockeye]

Crowe's best performance is still from The Insider.

Yes. Most underrated Crowe movie.

Don't go discounting Virtuosity.

[Fargull]

L.A. Confidential was awesome and I enjoyed A Beautiful Mind regardless of it's questionable representation of real events, but for my money Crowe's best performance is still from The Insider.

I agree, and he was pretty good in The Quick and the Dead, but who can not love Sam Rami.

[Merusk]

Holidays be damned- Cabin Boy was still a solid flick. I <3 Chris Elliott.

Shit, I thought I was the only sad son of a bitch who liked that movie. I feel like popping the DVD in now, since I can't do some WoW hurtin.

"Say, you're one of them there fancy lads, aint' ya!"

[WayAbvPar]

Anbody wanna buy a monkey?

[Hanzii]

Give the "Idiots" a try if you already haven't (Danish - "Idioterne").

Not the best representative of Dogma 95 (Man Bites Dog anyone?), but definitely the funniest one.

Man Bites Dog had nothing to do with Dogma 95 - it was just a low budget movie. It's easy to confuse the two.
I'm glad somebody mentioned QT because up until then I agreed fully with Schild and that's bad.
Idioterne is one of the most unwatchable movies ever made. Pure pretentious dreck.
I'm Danish and I'm supposed to love Trier bexause he puts my country on the map - at leats the map inside the head of artfags - but I've been unable to watch his stuff lately.
Riget actually played in a few small cinemas in the states came out on video and got nice reviews (I remember it reviewed in Fangoria even) - that's why King went and made Kingdom Hospital based on it.

Dogma 95 was a pretentious piece of paper with some rules put down to get some of the limitations put on movies due to low budgets promoted to conscious artistic choices. Trier was the spearheader and he broke the damn rules. The only good Dogma 95 movie to come out - Festen by Thomas Vinterberg - would have been good no matter how it was made. They should bury this thing...

Braveheart is a great epic in the oldfashioned style with lots of gore added to give it gritty realism (and hide the loose play with historical fact). Rob Roy is the better movie regarding scottish history, but Braveheart is just big, brash, moving and... yes epic. Just the battlescenes is reason enough to watch it again.
Gladiator was ok... but forgettable.

[stray]

Man Bites Dog had nothing to do with Dogma 95 - it was just a low budget movie. It's easy to confuse the two.

Hmm, that's strange. Since the director (and it's specifically stated in the beginning of the movie, no less) says it was done according to the Dogma 95 rules. Hell, a simple viewing will tell you that it follows everything to a T.

It has nothing to do with me confusing a low budget movie with Dogme 95. I know the difference.

Or are you try to say that anything that isn't from von Trier, Jacobsen, or Vinterberg isn't Dogme 95?

Edit: What I'm trying to say is that Man Bites Dog was a "tribute" at the very least. It wasn't just some low budget film.

Idioterne is one of the most unwatchable movies ever made. Pure pretentious dreck.

But funny! 

[Hanzii]

Hmm, that's strange. Since the director (and it's specifically stated in the beginning of the movie, no less) says it was done according to the Dogma 95 rules. Hell, a simple viewing will tell you that it follows everything to a T.

It has nothing to do with me confusing a low budget movie with Dogme 95. I know the difference.

Unless there's another Man Bites Dog than the Belgian serial killer movie, then I have no clue what you're talking about. Link to interview please?
It was made in 1992, which kinda gives a good reason why it wasn't made following the Dogma 95 rules. But the director (and you) compairing it to Dogma just argues my point about Dogma just being a gimmic.

Or are you saying anything that isn't from von Trier or Vinterberg isn't Dogme 95?

No, I'm saying that Dogma 95 was just a way of pretending the limitations put on low budget movies where artistic choices and not limitations.

Idioterne is one of the most unwatchable movies ever made. Pure pretentious dreck.

But funny! 

No. Painful.

[stray]

Unless there's another Man Bites Dog than the Belgian serial killer movie, then I have no clue what you're talking about. Link to interview please?
It was made in 1992, which kinda gives a good reason why it wasn't made following the Dogma 95 rules. But the director (and you) compairing it to Dogma just argues my point about Dogma just being a gimmic.

You know what? I totally screwed up. Apologies. I'm mixing things up. I'll try to find what I read.

EDIT:

No. Painful.

OK. Why do you think so?  Why do you see it as some "art fag" piece? Von Trier has said he had no intentions but to make a silly film. Like one of the old Beatles films. He doesn't seem to take it as seriously as other people make it out to be. It's a film about a bunch of people who choose to rebel against society by acting like retards. That's not pretentious. That's funny.

[Llava]

Gladiator was ok... but forgettable.

That's pretty much it.  If it had been forgotten, I'm sure I wouldn't be so harsh towards it.  It's because such a plain and mediocre movie received such praise, that it fucking won Best Picture, that I can't help but rail against it.  I didn't HATE the movie the way I hated Bless The Child or Summer of Sam.  But it was boring and, ultimately, a waste of time and money for me.  That everyone stares at me in disbelief when I say that and treat me as if I just said Jesus was sort of a prick is was really pisses me off about the whole thing.

[AOFanboi]

Or are you try to say that anything that isn't from von Trier, Jacobsen, or Vinterberg isn't Dogme 95?

The official list has quite a few movies and directors. But movies prior to "Dogme 95 # 1" - Festen - do not count there. People did after all make amateurish handheld camera movies prior to "the rules". 

[HaemishM]

Crowe's best performance is still from The Insider.

Yes. Most underrated Crowe movie.

Don't go discounting Virtuosity.

Rock on. Loved that movie, in all its cheesy glory.

EDIT: Back to the movie that this topic was started about, the only hopes I have for this movie are the hopes that they don't try to portray the Crusaders as the good guys. I hope they don't try to portray all the Knights wanting FREEE-DOOOOOOMMM for the Holy Land and all kinds of seriously stupid, anachronistic concepts that worked for Braveheart but not much else in the epic mold since, including Gladiator. Try to at least be halfway factual about the motivations behind the cruasdes.

Yeah, I know, I'm dreaming.