New Dr. Who Episodes?

[Evildrider]

The Library episode must be for you Brits. We just got the Doctor's Daughter episode this past week. This season has been as good as last. I'm surprised that both Torchwood and Doctor Who have used Martha Jones so much (pleasantly surprised, of course). Did she just not want to commit to a whole season, because she's already done 6 episodes between the two shows.

Martha Jones is going to Torchwood on their new "family" type show.  Gone are all the swearing and sex.

The last two episodes of Who have been great.  The whole library episodes started out meh in the first one, but closed out solidly.  I just wish there were more episodes.  I mean as it is we have like 3 episodes left and then we have 3 movies coming to hold us over til 2010?   

I'm not sure if we are behind or not here Haemish, but I just torrent the new episodes every Sat. night lol.

[HaemishM]

Martha Jones is going to Torchwood on their new "family" type show.  Gone are all the swearing and sex.

Ummmm... what's left? I like Torchwood, but that's very much their MO. A sanitized Torchwood just doesn't seem like it would have the same punch.

[DraconianOne]

Next weeks looks like awful filler,

Apparently word is that it's actually surprisingly good (from someone on an inside track to previews c/o working for various entertainment magazines).  Obviously for the rest of us, jury's out.  It's the doctor-lite one the week after which will probably be an awful thriller.  Then again, Blink was doctor lite too and that turned out alright.

[Tebonas]

The idea of filler episodes doesn't frighten me in Doctor Who. Its a format where filler works, and I still find Blink one of the best episodes of last season.

[Ironwood]

Filler in Who is hugely different to normal show filler.

More in a sec.

[HaemishM]

If Blink is filler, MORE FUCKING FILLER. Blink was one of the most intelligently crafted, exciting and entertaining pieces of television I've ever seen. There are entire seasons on entire networks that don't measure up to the quality of that filler episode.

[Oban]

Everybody lives.

Awesome episode.

[Ironwood]

Dr Who filler is not what usual 'filler' in a season is ;  that is, time 'away' from 'the main arc'.

Dr Who's never been about that.

Filler for Who is pretty much about when they've run out of budget after having blown all the money on the 'Big Bad' of the season.  That's not to say it's bad.  Indeed, I wish they'd spent more of the Master money on other episodes, because when you're out of money, you HAVE to write better.  (Usually).

Blink wasn't filler.  Sure, it was Dr Lite, but that doesn't matter a fuck.  Love and Monsters, however, WAS Filler, because, well, it had no budget and pretty much Blew.  To be honest, Filler for Who is where there's pretty much a low-budget low-writing no interest monster that you know you're never gonna see again or care about.  One-trick monsters or stories.

Anyway.  Apparently the next two episodes have a Dr Heavy and then a Donna Heavy theme, setting us up for the two parter.  I would say, to it's credit, that the 'new' releases since Eccleston hasn't really had all that much Filler, but if you look at Dr Who as a whole, there's tons of it.  Fuck me, Colin Baker and McCoy are pretty much all filler in my mind.  Total shite.

[Tebonas]

You just changed the definition of filler.

Filler episodes are episodes that don't concern the main arc. The name doesn't say anything about the quality. Blink was filler, just like Love and Monsters was. The only difference is that Blink was good filler.

[Ironwood]

Indeed.  I did.  I said I was going to.  On the first line of my post.  See ?

If you'd like, please to explain to me the 'Main Arc' of Doctor Who.

We will then see if we can agree on what deviates from it.  Or die of old age on the first part.

[Ironwood]

Martha Jones is going to Torchwood on their new "family" type show.  Gone are all the swearing and sex.

Ummmm... what's left?

The Suck.  The Unending, Endless, Parade of Suck.

[Furiously]

So where's the talk about The Doctor's daughters pants???

[Oban]

So where's the talk about The Doctor's daughters pants???

Pants?

[Furiously]

[Tebonas]

I don't think we disagree like you think we do, Ironwood. We are just talking semantics here. For you filler has a negative meaning, for me it just means "Nonarchey episode".

Guess what I meant with "Its a format where filler works"? Who isn't heavily serialized and the main arch basically consists of hints throughout the season.

And now to the important things. Lets concentrate on his daughters pants.

[Evildrider]

Martha Jones is going to Torchwood on their new "family" type show.  Gone are all the swearing and sex.

Ummmm... what's left? I like Torchwood, but that's very much their MO. A sanitized Torchwood just doesn't seem like it would have the same punch.

Not only that, but there are rumors that Capt. Jack won't be full time on Torchwood as well.

[HaemishM]

Martha Jones is going to Torchwood on their new "family" type show.  Gone are all the swearing and sex.

Ummmm... what's left? I like Torchwood, but that's very much their MO. A sanitized Torchwood just doesn't seem like it would have the same punch.

Not only that, but there are rumors that Capt. Jack won't be full time on Torchwood as well.

What... the... fuck? Did the production team just catch a case of the retards? I like the other characters, but none make the grade like Capt. Jack. You might as well call it X-Brits without him.

[palmer_eldritch]

The only one I liked was Owen AND HE'S DEAD!

[Evildrider]

The only one I liked was Owen AND HE'S DEAD!

Maybe... 

[Reg]

I can't believe they didn't kill off that horrible, whiny, gap-toothed woman when they had the chance.

[HaemishM]

I can't believe they didn't kill off that horrible, whiny, gap-toothed woman when they had the chance.

Tits. It's the most plausible explanation.

[Psynergy]

Long live Moffat.

I'm a Huge NewWho fan, and I'm completely stoaked that he's going to be taking the reigns. RTD does things too simply for my taste.

The next two episodes are worrying me. The first is 'Midnight', a donna-light episode, with the Doctor being scared of knocking, then next week, 'Turn Left', a Doctor-light episode with just Donna. I'm holding my breath on 'Turn Left' because of the obvious spoiler, but i'm not so sure about 'Midnight'. After such a great two parter, I don't know if it'll be able to sustain the excitement.

The thing i love about NewWho is the series arc words. First season we had Bad wolf, then Torchwood, and last season Mr Saxon. they've done things a bit differently this season which is even better. You've got missing planets, missing bees, something on donna's back, the darkness, songs, and of course the medusa cascade, but what, if anything, do they mean???

.....sorry, geeked out for a second.


.....crumpets

[Ironwood]

One thing's for sure :  It'll have fuck all to do with the Metabilis Spiders.

[Ironwood]

Oh God.  That was truly fucking retarded.


Also, next week, Metabilis Spiders.

Fuck me, it's hit the shitter quick this season.

[Merusk]

You'll be happy to know that 2 posts above me is the #3 google result for 'Metabilis Spiders'

[Oban]

Oh God.  That was truly fucking retarded.

No more Donnas, please.  We need more companions like Katarina, Peri Brown or Zoe Heriot.

[Ironwood]

You'll be happy to know that 2 posts above me is the #3 google result for 'Metabilis Spiders'

Great.  My one moment of True Hope in life cast in Google stone for all to see.

And I was wrong.  Hope Dashed.

 

[Signe]

I like Donna.  Certainly more than Martha.  Peri's accent was atrocious.  I couldn't stand her.  She's from Guilford, too, IRL.  I hate Guilford.   Katarina and Zoe?  Sheesh.  They were companions for like, what?  Ten minutes?  I didn't much like the earliest Dr. Who shows, anyway.  Tom Baker was when I started really liking them, though I didn't mind Pertwee.  I liked Tegan from the Tom Baker episodes.  She was fun.  Oh, and K9.  I loved K9. 

I'm not usually a big fan of TV Science Fiction.  I really think I liked Dr. Who because it was camp and the effects were so awful that they made me laugh.  I remember one alien that was a giant Fish head wearing a shower curtain.  He had a goofy high voice, too.  You could see shoes sometimes.  It's the same feeling I had when I watched Thunderbirds.  (though only stoned, same with The Wombles and Clangers)  Sometimes you could see toilet paper rolls and bottle caps and the ships taking off were always a riot.  How can you not love stuff like that?  I got used to Dr. Who, though, and eventually became addicted.  I loved Tom Baker and didn't think anyone could be as good until David Tenent.  He's made me appreciate Dr. Who all over again and for better reasons.  (though some of the effects are still silly and funny)

[palmer_eldritch]

Best Zoe moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPitIie-2EE

She really knows how to scream.

[palmer_eldritch]

I thought yesterday's UK episode, Midnight, was a classic. Scary without having any monsters and a example of a ship in a bottle episode done right (the first episode of The Mind Robber is another).

And the Medusa Cascade came up again, which probably means something?

[Abagadro]

No more Donnas, please.  We need more companions like Katarina, Peri Brown or Zoe Heriot.

No love for Nyssa and her flounsy skirt?

[Merusk]

From the spoiler I read yesterday, if you dislike Donna you're going to be pissed come the season closer.

[Tebonas]

The sneak peek frightens me. The Doctor might be dead until they resolve the finale. The suckiness could be on par with the "The doctor is an old gnome in the cage" finale.

Please tell me it ain't so and that retardednes only lasts for next week.

[DraconianOne]

Oh God.  That was truly fucking retarded.

Was this in reference to Midnight? 

Expand por far vore?

[Ironwood]

I hated Midnight.  I thought it was the usual pretentious claptrap from Russell, saved only by Tennant.  Again.

The rest of the extras were straight out of old soaps and fucking drama school and it showed.

Awful, awful episode.

Sorry.  I realise that a lot of people liked it.