New Dr. Who Episodes?

[Signe]

I like this one:

[HaemishM]

Blink was really one of the best episodes of any show I've ever seen. Now I want to see more of Sally Sparrow and wouldn't have minded seeing more of Billy Shelton. Great characters, great writing, great acting, and the design on the weeping angels was just amazing. Though I liked the Catherine Tate and think she'll make a good companion, Sally Sparrow was even better.

[Grublet]

Blink was really one of the best episodes of any show I've ever seen. Now I want to see more of Sally Sparrow and wouldn't have minded seeing more of Billy Shelton. Great characters, great writing, great acting, and the design on the weeping angels was just amazing. Though I liked the Catherine Tate and think she'll make a good companion, Sally Sparrow was even better.

The episode was written by Steven Moffat, the person behind the series "Jekyll", currently on BBC America, and "Coupling". He also wrote the Dr. Who episodes "The Empty Child" / "The Doctor Dances" from season one and "The Girl in the Fireplace" from season two.

[Oban]

Ah, "girl in the fireplace" was quite good as well.

[Azazel]

Yes, I'm finding Moffat's episodes are really quite good. Reminds me, I have to re-get most of Coupling. Funny show, though it did start to get a bit repetitive after awhile.

Oh, and Spaced.

[Jain Zar]

My only problem with Dr Who is the massive US DVD box set pricegouge we get on them.

Id be willing to pay 50 a series/season, but shy of a 100?  BLEARG.

And I would so love to own "Dalek" (This is when I became a fan of Dr Who for the first time in my nerdy ass life.), Girl in the Fireplace, and this last 2 parter (which also has Daisy from Spaced in it!    ) but itll be over 200 bucks even with online discounts.  Its sorta like Zeta Gundam, though I can at least see Who on my DVR once or twice if I happen to catch the BBC America repeat of a repeat.

As to Torchwood?  2 episodes in and its like the Dysfunctional Delta Green, (its a Call of Cthulhu thing!) only in the UK with really bad teeth.  Seriously Gwen, either stop smiling like that, or get that shit fixed!
Its not bad so far and this OMG SEX ALIEN bit wasn't all that offensive really.  Ive endured the last 5 minutes of Love & Monsters (which was generally good until then), a couple sex jokes don't bother me too much.

I'm sure Cyberwoman will break me though.. man does that outfit look stupid!

Though I still love BBC America.  Got to see all of Spaced & Black Books, and Robin Hood which fucking rocked.  (And unlike Ridley Scott's Kingdom of Heaven, managed to be a bit more subtle in its modern political opinion shown through a medieval lens.. and has the best Sheriff of Nottingham I have ever seen.  He is awesomely evil!)

[Ironwood]

Black Books is fucking fantastic.

[Grublet]

Torchwood begins to get much better starting with the episode "Countrycide".

[Roac]

Torchwood begins to get much better starting with the episode "Countrycide".

Is that the third one? 

I figured I'd give the series a shot, despite Ironwood's warning.  I should have listened.  Really, the first one wasn't so bad; not so good, but neither was it terrible.  The second was painful.  I mean... really?  That got SHOWN?  Don't people kill themselves out of shame anymore?  It really may be warranted.

[Grublet]

Torchwood begins to get much better starting with the episode "Countrycide".

Is that the third on

Number 6. Number 7 was another shitty episode on par with number 2. Skip that.

[Ironwood]

Torchwood begins to get much better starting with the episode "Countrycide".

In the same way that hypothermia eventually makes you feel warm all over.  Despite the fact you're fucking dying.

Seriously, you're all nuts.

[Grublet]

Torchwood begins to get much better starting with the episode "Countrycide".

In the same way that hypothermia eventually makes you feel warm all over.  Despite the fact you're fucking dying.

Seriously, you're all nuts.

You need a hug. Perhaps a loaf of Amish Friendship Bread?

[HaemishM]

The latest Doctor Who episode (The End of the Universe) was fucking fantastic. I got fanboi goosebumps watching it.

I've gotten halfway through the Day One episode of Torchwood (The Orgasm Vampire) and while it still isn't great, it isn't OMFG bad yet.

[Reg]

Torchwood does improve about halfway through the season. The hard part is making it that far.

I may not be qualified to judge though because I'm actually starting to enjoy the new Flash Gordon series. :)

[HaemishM]

Torchwood does improve about halfway through the season. The hard part is making it that far.

I may not be qualified to judge though because I'm actually starting to enjoy the new Flash Gordon series. :)

Jeebus, talk about the kiss of death.

I look at it this way. Even the Orgasm Vamp isn't as bad as ANY MOMENT of that execrable Flash Gordon series.

[Reg]

If you can manage to get past the fact that the new Flash Gordon is making a complete mockery of a beloved set of old characters it's really a perfectly serviceable generic sci-fi series.  You just have to smack yourself in the head a few times until you forget that Ming the Merciless isn't supposed to look like Corbin Bernsen in LA Law.

[Righ]

smack yourself in the head a few times until you forget

Quite the recommendation, thanks.

[tazelbain]

Flash Gordon is a new low for Sci-Fi, which is amazing considering how bad Black Scorpion was.

[HaemishM]

smack yourself in the head a few times until you forget

Quite the recommendation, thanks.

I just assumed the head-smacking started with the writers of Flash Gordon, continued through the producers and directors and ended with the actors, all mindlessly banging their heads against the walls until a show fell out.

[Evildrider]

As someone who hasn't watched Dr. Who since Tom Baker.. how is the show nowadays?  Is it worth me trying to find it and catch some episodes?

I saw a couple of Torchwood and wasn't too impressed.  I'm pretty much just watching Eureka and BSG, if and when they ever show episodes again.

[tazelbain]

Season 1 of the new show was ok, season 2 and 3 were pretty good.

I'd like to see the Doctor to go completely off his rocker for a season.  He's been building up to it for a while.  Explore why he is a Runner.

[Merusk]

As someone who hasn't watched Dr. Who since Tom Baker.. how is the show nowadays?  Is it worth me trying to find it and catch some episodes?

I never enjoyed Dr. Who when I was younger.  I just couldn't get into it for some reason, despite my love for Sci Fi and the other British fare that made it to my PBS station.  However, I love this current Dr. and the last two seasons have had me watching Sci Fi channel as regularly as when Battlestar is on.  Yeah, I think you should find it and catch some of the episodes.

Hell, it makes me want to go back and catch some of the old seasons of the Dr. again and see if it's my taste that's changed, or if this is simply different writing.

[HaemishM]

It's a bit of both, Merusk. The writing is much more updated and naturalistic than the old Who (not necessarily better), and it's format is more amenable to modern tastes.

[Signe]

My nephew was hooked on Dr. Who and I watched it with him years and years ago.  I always enjoyed Tom Baker and Peter Davidson the most but David Tennant is my favourite so far.  Christopher Eccleston was a fun doctor, too.  I didn't like Flash Gordon a bit and didn't even make it through the first episode but, because he's a dear, I'll follow Reg's advice.  Next time I find myself watching it, I'll hit myself repeatedly in the head.

[Jain Zar]

This last week's episode of Torchwood was pretty good, outside of Jack's subtle (well subtle for Jack anyhow) attempts to get in Gwen's pants (as opposed to the giant gap in her front teeth.. im nearsighted and watching an SD broadcast on a HDTV and its annoying as fuck!) via "firearms training".

Though for Who, outside of the obvious fact The Master is an EEVILL Timelord, what is so scary about him from those of you who might know?

[HaemishM]

This last week's episode of Torchwood was pretty good, outside of Jack's subtle (well subtle for Jack anyhow) attempts to get in Gwen's pants (as opposed to the giant gap in her front teeth.. im nearsighted and watching an SD broadcast on a HDTV and its annoying as fuck!) via "firearms training".

Though for Who, outside of the obvious fact The Master is an EEVILL Timelord, what is so scary about him from those of you who might know?

He's an Evil Timelord. That should be scary enough.

But consider if the Doctor, with all his knowledge and brilliance, was a completely amoral, self-serving, homicidial meglomaniac who traveled through time attempting to amass as much personal power as possible.

[Merusk]

This last week's episode of Torchwood was pretty good, outside of Jack's subtle (well subtle for Jack anyhow) attempts to get in Gwen's pants (as opposed to the giant gap in her front teeth.. im nearsighted and watching an SD broadcast on a HDTV and its annoying as fuck!) via "firearms training".

Though for Who, outside of the obvious fact The Master is an EEVILL Timelord, what is so scary about him from those of you who might know?

He's an Evil Timelord. That should be scary enough.

But consider if the Doctor, with all his knowledge and brilliance, was a completely amoral, self-serving, homicidial meglomaniac who traveled through time attempting to amass as much personal power as possible.

Part of the problem with envisioning that is that you've only ever gotten glimpses of just how powerful the Doctor is.   (Albeit I've only got ~3 seasons of knowledge to pull from, maybe older stuff showed it a bit more.)  He keeps a (relatively) low profile for a being of unimaginable power and knowledge.  Not to mention the flaky persona he wears so people don't shit their pants around him.   

[HaemishM]

That low profile? Yeah, that's what the Master DOESN'T do. He's out there, fucking shit up, trying to steal all the power he can, no matter the cost. One of the inviolate laws of the Time Lords that he broke was about regeneration. Time Lords only get 13. He had used all his up, meaning he was going to buy it. He cheated that to extend his life, and almost destroyed Galifree in the process. I think that was the one he was trying to steal the Rod of Rasselon, he assassinated the leader of the Time Lords in order to get his guy in there and try to get the Doctor blamed for it.

Think how the Doctor dealt with The Family. The Master can do that kind of shit too, and does on a regular basis just for shits and giggles.

[Evildrider]

Thanks for the heads up.. I guess I'll have a look and see if I can find the newer episodes and give'em a try. 

[Grublet]

Think how the Doctor dealt with The Family. The Master can do that kind of shit too, and does on a regular basis just for shits and giggles.

And he makes little dolls out of people. That shits crazy scary, yo.

[Fraeg]

So.. voyage of the Dammed?  thoughts?

don't wanna spoil it for peeps who haven't seen it i suppose.  I enjoyed it much more than the runaway bride.  I had hoped it would be set on the "real" titanic, not a spaceship called the titanic.  Some decent humor.  A lot of the episode felt like a tribute/ripoff of The Robots of Death (tom baker era).

[eldaec]

"real" titanic

I think I'm right in saying that a current or future Doctor going on board the real Titanic causes continuity headaches.

Prior incarnations of the Doctor have already talked of memories of being on board the ship.


Not that this would be an insurmountable problem - but not one I can imagine Russell Davies being interested in dealing with, or one we'll see in a christmas special.

[Ironwood]

Normal Christmas Episode.  Ie, Wankfest of Feelgood fucking Nonsense.  Entertaining, but in a kiddies way.  Not much for adults.

However :  Trailers for Next series (Sontarans, get it right up ye !!) as well as a trailer for series 2 of Torchwood (let's all pound our fucking nuts with this shit program once again, as it seems to take all the good bits of Dr Who and FUCK IT UP ROYALLY.)

The only thing I will say is that Martha makes 'Special Appearance' in TW this season and, giving it's a more 'Adult' version, I fully expect her to get double penetrated by two Cybermen while swallowing the load of a nasty Pox-Ridden Rutan.

Fuck Torchwood.

[Reg]

I liked the Christmas special. I'm not sure where you're coming from calling it "feel good for kiddies." Perhaps it's a UK thing but in North America "feel good for kiddies" wouldn't have had a sad ending.

[Ironwood]

Which is why every Hollywood ending you guys make are all the fucking same and pathetic.


She got to travel the universe as a fucking sunbeam.  She's happy.

If that's not enough, She's actually really a popstar who's worth millions and beat cancer.  Your Pity is misplaced.