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Reply #105 on: April 29, 2018, 10:43:02 PM

Isnít any else pissed that...
Also, like, can we agree to stop spoilering everything after we hit the one week mark or something?  I know its polite to do initially because people like to look at the thread to see how people liked the film, but it becomes really weird to have a thread about about a movie where all the text is hidden.

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Reply #106 on: April 29, 2018, 11:26:05 PM

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Reply #107 on: April 30, 2018, 12:08:01 AM

It's been 18 movies, why would anyone be upset?

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Reply #108 on: April 30, 2018, 01:43:41 AM

Isnít any else pissed that the entire Marvel universe is headed for a reset button?  Itís like a bad episode of Trek.

It is more like a typical marvel comics crossover event.

Last couple of years they've doubled down on  making the movies like the comics. For good or ill.

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Reply #109 on: April 30, 2018, 01:46:57 AM

Isnít any else pissed that...
Also, like, can we agree to stop spoilering everything after we hit the one week mark or something?  I know its polite to do initially because people like to look at the thread to see how people liked the film, but it becomes really weird to have a thread about about a movie where all the text is hidden.

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Reply #110 on: April 30, 2018, 01:53:43 AM

Yeah, I think you're actually wrong on this.


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Reply #111 on: April 30, 2018, 07:27:52 AM



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Reply #112 on: April 30, 2018, 07:41:16 AM


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Reply #113 on: April 30, 2018, 09:09:35 AM

Thanos is Space Deebo.

I stole that from twitter. Itís accurate as fuck though.

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Reply #114 on: April 30, 2018, 09:16:41 AM


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Reply #115 on: April 30, 2018, 09:39:44 AM

Isnít any else pissed that...

After 10 years of movies? Knowing that the actors are getting a bit long in the tooth for the roles and aren't going to want to play them forever?

No, I'm actually not. I don't have a problem with reset buttons if the story is handled right. Most of them are used in comics and other shitty genre fiction because the writers are too lazy to write themselves out of the corners they've written themselves into.

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Reply #116 on: April 30, 2018, 02:09:02 PM

2 Ideas on the character resets:

1.) The actors have to retire.  Their visage and voice does not.  We have the technology now to make someone else look like the character and keep them going as ageless wonders.  RDJ's face and voice could be there as Stark for 100 more years...  Aging as slowly as he has in the comics.  Well, maybe not for 100 years, but until we kill ourselves off as a species.

2.) They don't want to lose these valuable characters.  If they do not do the CGI replace idea, they can have the character go to a lesser role in the Universe for a bit and then recast.  RDJ is an amazing Iron Man - but, just as with the comics or with James Bond, there can be others that fill the shoes and continue the character.  If they start Iron Man 4 by having Pepper killed and Stark go off the deep end into an Iron Wars storyline where the MCU is trying to stop him, you could see a personality swing in a newly cast Iron Man and have it both be a chance of character and in character at the same time.

Regardless, I think we'll 1.) either see RDJ as Tony Stark for 15 more years with less active roles as Stark and his action being more CGI/, or 2.) See them do an ENTIRE reboot to incorporate the mutants sometime in the 2020s, but have most of these actors in these roles until then.

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Reply #117 on: April 30, 2018, 02:33:01 PM

I'd love it if they replaced RDJ as Iron Man with Riri Williams as Ironheart, just for the incels and racists diatribes against diversification of superhero movies when the douchebag Tony Stark is replaced by a 15-year old black girl.

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Reply #118 on: April 30, 2018, 02:35:19 PM

It would probably be Shuri if i had to put money on it.

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Reply #119 on: April 30, 2018, 02:39:09 PM

If they are opening up the time travel plot device I will just laugh, because once you open that Deus Ex Machina there is no way to shut it. DAN! Thanos saw that so he slips a fake gauntlet to his future self but Strange saw that so he slipped the fake with the real one so Thanos would have the real one and then i dunno Doom saw that so he...

Might as well just have the Doctor blast them with his Sonic Screwdriver at that point.

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Reply #120 on: April 30, 2018, 02:45:24 PM

They already did that both in Dr Strange and in this movie. Time travel is how he got the last stone.

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Reply #121 on: April 30, 2018, 04:07:19 PM

It's comic books. They do it all the time, and it's not just about recasting--it's about how you bring change to characters who aren't really allowed to grow markedly older. It's the same thing the Bond movies have done--you're supposed to pretend that old sad Roger Moore is still young James Bond. Only once did they actually go with "James Bond is older, isn't that funny" in that weird Connery IP-lawsuit movie that remade Thunderball. It was disappointing with Trek because they could really choose to just keep having new crews of new ships in a universe that actually changes its status quo over time. With comic books, it's really inevitable unless someone decides that they really want to go ahead and have middle-aged Spider-Man hand over the mantle to his daughter Spider-Girl and so on.

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Reply #122 on: April 30, 2018, 10:11:55 PM

It's comic books. They do it all the time, and it's not just about recasting--it's about how you bring change to characters who aren't really allowed to grow markedly older. It's the same thing the Bond movies have done--you're supposed to pretend that old sad Roger Moore is still young James Bond. Only once did they actually go with "James Bond is older, isn't that funny" in that weird Connery IP-lawsuit movie that remade Thunderball. It was disappointing with Trek because they could really choose to just keep having new crews of new ships in a universe that actually changes its status quo over time. With comic books, it's really inevitable unless someone decides that they really want to go ahead and have middle-aged Spider-Man hand over the mantle to his daughter Spider-Girl and so on.



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Reply #123 on: May 03, 2018, 10:57:34 AM

Apparently, that last Spider-man scene was mostly improvised, not pre-written.

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Reply #124 on: May 03, 2018, 10:42:29 PM

Just noticed a continuity error:


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Reply #125 on: May 03, 2018, 11:01:15 PM

Several promotional images from trailers do not match the movie.  Some with the Hulk in them are quite different in the movie.

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Reply #126 on: May 04, 2018, 02:28:48 AM

Just noticed a continuity error:

Is that image from the movie, or from one of the trailers?  Cause one of my co-workers pointed out the interesting fact that literally ALL of the promotional material for this movie (posters, trailers, standees, even an IMAX promotional poster that just shows the IMAX Logo with the Gauntlet Hand reaching out to grasp it) only shows those two stones in the gauntlet.  If it is from the trailer, it is possible it was deliberately edited that way to prevent possible spoilers about stone acquisition from leaking.
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Reply #127 on: May 04, 2018, 05:27:56 AM

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Reply #128 on: May 04, 2018, 11:08:03 PM

Just noticed a continuity error:

Is that image from the movie, or from one of the trailers?  Cause one of my co-workers pointed out the interesting fact that literally ALL of the promotional material for this movie (posters, trailers, standees, even an IMAX promotional poster that just shows the IMAX Logo with the Gauntlet Hand reaching out to grasp it) only shows those two stones in the gauntlet.  If it is from the trailer, it is possible it was deliberately edited that way to prevent possible spoilers about stone acquisition from leaking.

That's a good point.

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Reply #129 on: May 05, 2018, 07:56:09 PM

I just saw this tonight, had a total blast. Managed to avoid spoilers too, so that's a plus. I'm still processing my thoughts on where 4 will go; I might post some more after I catch up on the thread.

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Reply #130 on: May 06, 2018, 03:18:35 AM

I'm kind of with Khaldun:

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Reply #131 on: May 06, 2018, 09:23:26 PM

They managed the challenges of having such a bloated cast very well.  There was character drama and real stakes... and Thanos was about as 'grounded' as he could be.  This movie took on unprecedented challenges... and nailed it.

If you want to know whether there are any credits scenes:
I am curious how ...


I doubt MAoS will even touch it.


They did.


In fact infinity war was supposed to come out this weekend and pushed it forward 1 week early.

AOS this weekend confirmed





Following names the villain for this season. You should watch past seasons of shield if you skipped them post Winter Soldier crossover. Knowing his name will ruin your first watch of this season because you don't know who The Destroyer of Worlds could be till this episode.



There is no chance the what was shown in the 1st few episodes of season 5 will affect Avengers 4 but I'm wondering now how they will reconcile season 6 because the movies and shield have to play off each other on some level.
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Reply #132 on: May 06, 2018, 09:27:31 PM

Ya, I'm surprised they are integrating it as much as they are. Will be interesting to see how things go.

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Reply #133 on: May 06, 2018, 10:34:24 PM

I assume we'll see "the moment" on MAoS, now.  I just wonder what Luke Cage, Cloak and Dagger, etc... will have to say about it.

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Reply #134 on: May 07, 2018, 01:19:13 AM

I assume we'll see "the moment" on MAoS, now.  I just wonder what Luke Cage, Cloak and Dagger, etc... will have to say about it.

It's definitely happening.





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Reply #135 on: May 07, 2018, 06:57:09 AM

The Netflix urban shows I assume might do something like "It feels as bad as that night when half of New York disappeared" or something--a strictly post-facto passing reference. You're not going to watch half of Cage's friends actually disappear before his eyes or anything like that.

I really do wish they'd had one quick cameo scene of Cage, Jones, Daredevil and Iron Fist trying to help out in New York but not being able to keep up with the battle. Or alternatively, I'd love to have one of the urban vigilantes walk past Strange's house or glimpse Spider-Man in the distance, something like that.
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Reply #136 on: May 07, 2018, 07:13:12 AM

By now the movies have made it pretty clear they are never going to acknowledge the TV shows.

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Reply #137 on: May 07, 2018, 08:08:51 AM


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Reply #138 on: May 07, 2018, 10:01:39 AM

By now the movies have made it pretty clear they are never going to acknowledge the TV shows.

Acknowledge? No

But they did use material from the TV aos for the opening of Ultron.

It is doubtful they'll do that again for Avengers 4 but it doesn't sit well with me how much aos continues to riff off it and the implications on the show has no bearing on the movies inspite it being important.

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Reply #139 on: May 07, 2018, 10:40:10 AM

They stuck the landing with a high degree of difficulty, this was a good movie.



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