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on: August 19, 2016, 03:46:52 AM

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/jared-leto-blade-runner-sequel-1201840363/

Jared Leto Joins ‘Blade Runner’ Sequel


Cunts. Why can't they leave old good films alone?

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Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 04:37:11 AM

The only thing giving me any hope whatsoever for this is that it's Denis Villeneuve, who has a pretty decent run of good movies under his belt. I had a few issues with Sicario, but Prisoners and Incendies are amazing, and the rest of his stuff I've seen is also above average. I sort of expect Arrival to break that trend, but we'll see...
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Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 09:53:58 AM

Why can't they leave old good films alone?

Because film making has become almost exclusively about making profit and the costs of making AAA films are now so high that the money men are highly risk-averse. So we get endless sequels and remakes.

I've not seen anything by Villeneuve, I'll hunt some out and see what I think.

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Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 11:46:42 AM



Also, what apocrypha said about risk-averse money men wanting sure things.

Not that I think this is, in fact, a sure thing.
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Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 11:58:20 AM

Blade Runner is one of my top 10 favorite films, but Villeneuve is an outstanding director so I'm giving this the benefit of the doubt.  After all, if it sucks, I still have Blade Runner, and I'll just ignore that this ever happened just like the other reboots/sequels I don't like. 

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Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 12:23:45 PM

Cunts. Why can't they leave old good films alone?

I think this has been in the works for awhile.  Also feel warm and fuzzy about the original (Director's Cut, EU Release TYVM).  I just don't know how they will come close visually, story and score-wise to the original.  Current films being set for international releases (hallo CN!) are pretty antithetical to the original film's production, story, score, direction, visuals...  I mean, the original had several unclear story threads.  I don't see any desire today to repeat that kind of openess in SciFi (good films like Moon being the exception).

edit: So yeah.  Not much to look forward to.
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Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 12:32:17 PM

I'm slightly excited (thanks to the director) but I fear it's going to be another Total Recall/Robocop style remake (failing to comprehend what made the original movie a classic)
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Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 12:46:14 PM

They are getting so adverse to "new ideas" that they are remaking Clue.  Fucking *Clue*. I expect a Battleship remake announced any day now, why wait a generation to shit on something you already screwed up?

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Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 03:08:41 PM

Really?  Hrrmm.

I'm of two minds.  On the one hand, Clue was an awesome movie and I have  very little faith at this point that they can recreate what made it so fun (perfect mix of deadpan dry humor and slapstick).

On the other hand........It's one of those movies I could see several different directors/writers remaking amazingly.  It's a fun premise that somebody could make an awesome version of.


Edit:  Oh, as to the topic at hand.  Bleeeeeeeh.  It's going to be another Total Recall/Robocop fuckup remake.  They always fail at doing these sci-fi remakes.

This 80's nostalgia rape is getting so bad though, I'm very afraid they may finally do the unthinkable.  Attempt to remake the Princess Bride.
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Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 03:24:28 PM

Hmm, Denis Villeneuve is the director.  That just increased the chances for this not to suck.  I really like his other films Sicario and Incendies.
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Reply #10 on: August 21, 2016, 12:53:50 AM

Watched Enemy last night. It was excellent. We had to go back and check bits of it out again as we tried to make sense of it, which I think we did eventually. Sicario queued up next.

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Reply #11 on: August 24, 2016, 06:43:51 AM

Cunts. Why can't they leave old good films alone?

I think this has been in the works for awhile.  Also feel warm and fuzzy about the original (Director's Cut, EU Release TYVM).  I just don't know how they will come close visually, story and score-wise to the original.  Current films being set for international releases (hallo CN!) are pretty antithetical to the original film's production, story, score, direction, visuals...  I mean, the original had several unclear story threads.  I don't see any desire today to repeat that kind of openess in SciFi (good films like Moon being the exception).

edit: So yeah.  Not much to look forward to.

That's the problem really. The original doesn't lend itself to a sequel made 30 years later.

Even if it wont be Prometheus-level-bad I expect a "SF Film that's would have been decent on it's own but not compared to the original Blade Runner"


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Reply #12 on: August 24, 2016, 08:49:34 AM

People forget that BladeRunner was an utter flop at the box office.  It flat out sucked in that regard.  Even if this movie were to pay homage to the original in "quality" and so forth, it'd likely fail.  That right there should tell you that it will be NOTHING like the original; which became a classic much later in life (ala 5th element).  No studio will take the risk, because people are still too fuckstupid to appreciate a good sci-fi product.  Just like they were back then.

To that end, I don't want it to be like the original, because if it was... it'd fail.  I do not want it to fail.  So, it needs to stand on its own 2 feet and be a modern masterpiece right out of the gate.

So far we know Leto and Gosling are in this?  That right there does not give me a warm and fuzzy.  Once again, they're casting these movies too "clean."  They need dirtier, smarmier, actor/actresses.  Not these chiseled statues.  Shit, Gosling has to be a replicant if he's in this.

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Reply #13 on: August 24, 2016, 10:55:50 AM

Too "clean"?  Blade Runner starred Harrison fucking Ford.  The man who had, in the five years prior to Blade Runner, played Han Solo in Star Wars/Empire and Indiana Jones.  He was one of the hottest actors in Hollywood, if not the hottest at the time.  He was far more bankable than Jared Leto or Ryan Gosling will ever be.

Also, have you seen Drive?  You really should if you think Gosling is just a chiseled statue.  He was amazing in The Nice Guys, too, which no one saw, unfortunately.  And what big movie has Leto ever been in besides Suicide Squad or Fight Club?  He's an offbeat b-list actor that makes a movie every one or two years to little fanfare.

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Reply #14 on: August 24, 2016, 11:59:46 AM

Yeah I liked Gosling in Drive.
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Reply #15 on: August 25, 2016, 09:26:04 AM

Really?  Hrrmm.

I'm of two minds.  On the one hand, Clue was an awesome movie and I have  very little faith at this point that they can recreate what made it so fun (perfect mix of deadpan dry humor and slapstick).

On the other hand........It's one of those movies I could see several different directors/writers remaking amazingly.  It's a fun premise that somebody could make an awesome version of.

Given the nature of today's comics it's going to be all high-energy people playing-up the sexual aspects much, much more and including a lot more body humor. None of the dryness of the original.

Media as Miss. Scarlett. That's the tone we'll get.

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Reply #16 on: August 25, 2016, 12:10:08 PM

Blade Runner 2 should be some kind of cross between Star Wars IV and Requiem for Dream. Replace Harrison with Jared Leto, Rutger Hauer with Michael Fasbender and Darryl Hannah with JLaw!

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Reply #17 on: August 25, 2016, 12:58:54 PM

uhg not JLaw

or is that a joke? I've lost track of the current meta here
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Reply #18 on: August 25, 2016, 03:05:34 PM

Joking.

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Reply #19 on: August 25, 2016, 03:40:46 PM

I don't see why that stupid ice skating movie needed a sequel in the first place.  Jon Heder isn't funny.
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Reply #20 on: August 26, 2016, 12:48:06 PM

Too "clean"?  Blade Runner starred Harrison fucking Ford.  The man who had, in the five years prior to Blade Runner, played Han Solo in Star Wars/Empire and Indiana Jones.  He was one of the hottest actors in Hollywood, if not the hottest at the time.  He was far more bankable than Jared Leto or Ryan Gosling will ever be.

Well, bankable yes, but I believe the point was that Goslling and Leto are "clean" in terms of prettiness on screen at odds with the tone trying to be achieved.

Neither Star Wars nor Jones are set in anything approaching a "clean" environment and Ford worked well in both (Jack Ryan, Sabrina, etc). In fact, Ford kinda never works well in a clean environment, the opposite of the chiselled statues who seem to be genetically engineered for it.

So Ford in Blade Runner works because of Solo and Jones, not in spite of it.
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Reply #21 on: August 28, 2016, 10:38:35 PM

Exactly.  Matter of fact, if you ever tried to cast Ford in anything like today's canned underwear-model Hollywood, he'd likely tell you to GFY...  like literally.  He hates that shit.
Leto and Gosling have to be there to portray the more manufactured side of cyberpunk; wherein people get perfect through tech.  I hope.

I prefer more realistic castings (the only metahumanesque actors were Rachael and Pris).  Most everyone else were Ford and Olmos types.  Gritty.

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Reply #22 on: August 29, 2016, 09:40:24 AM

What Leto and Gosling movies have you two actually seen?  Because it certainly isn't what I've watched.  Both have starred in gritty films in which they were anything but pretty boys.  Drive?  Requiem of a Dream?  Only God Forgives (which isn't good, but is dark and dream-like)?  Suicide Squad (also not good, but not because of Leto and he isn't "clean")?  Dallas Buyer's Club?  Half Nelson?  Fight Club?

This sounds like a complaint from someone who has merely seen a picture of Leto and Gosling, but not any of their actual movies.

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Reply #23 on: August 29, 2016, 12:02:35 PM

It's not that they've haven't both been in gritty films, it's that both are very pretty and/or handsome.  Neither has a ruggedly handsome look the way Ford did.  He wasn't conventionally handsome (by the current standards of today) and so he fit the role well.  Leto and Gosling are more in line with the current aesthetic for pretty/handsome rather than just good -looking.


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Reply #24 on: October 06, 2016, 05:29:49 PM

We have a title:


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Reply #25 on: October 06, 2016, 05:53:57 PM

Won't Harrison Ford be dead by then?
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Reply #26 on: October 07, 2016, 07:23:27 AM

See, I figured it was going to be "Blade Walker". Or maybe "Bladeroller", about how Deckert gets involved with the weird new sport that's a big thing in the future.
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Reply #27 on: October 07, 2016, 08:34:12 AM

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Reply #28 on: October 07, 2016, 09:42:07 AM

I propose this forum introduces a one-strike-and-you-areout Instant-Lifetime-ban policy on the use of gratuitous sarcasm.  Grin

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Reply #29 on: October 07, 2016, 10:09:14 AM

I propose this forum introduces a one-strike-and-you-areout Instant-Lifetime-ban policy on the use of gratuitous sarcasm.  Grin

That would leave it almost entirely devoid of regular posters in a week.  why so serious?

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Reply #30 on: October 07, 2016, 12:05:37 PM

I propose this forum introduces a one-strike-and-you-areout Instant-Lifetime-ban policy on the use of gratuitous sarcasm.  Grin
In my defense they did a horrible job on the design of that title graphic. By putting the "2049" below "Blade Runner" and making it a less contrasty color they are implying it's separate from the actual title. Only the fact that it's in the same stylized font keeps the two parts together when everything else is trying to split them apart.

I.e. to me, if I squint even more than usual, it looks like they were trying to display:
Blade Runner
(Coming) 2049

Instead of:
Blade Runner 2049
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Reply #31 on: October 09, 2016, 03:56:29 AM

I'm just happy they gave it a different name.

Sequels with the same name as the original film annoy me.

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Reply #32 on: October 09, 2016, 08:41:21 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9d09JLBVRc

I did post this before, but I  don't care, you fucks.

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Reply #33 on: October 10, 2016, 01:53:21 AM

And his name is Calafuckingpine.

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Reply #34 on: October 10, 2016, 09:00:27 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9d09JLBVRc

I did post this before, but I  don't care, you fucks.

Alcohol is one hell of a drug.  Ohhhhh, I see.

If you watch the review you'll see the "you fucks" was sarcastic. I am not calling you fucks!  Heartbreak

So..um..Blade Runner:

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