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on: July 06, 2016, 05:53:57 AM

... is out. Kind of. Not officially but it can be downloaded and installed and it works 1000%.

Here's the link: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/niantic-inc/pokemon-go/pokemon-go-0-29-0-release/pokemon-go-0-29-0-android-apk-download/

In case you have no idea what this is, it's the new game from the people who made Ingress. You become a Pokemon trainer and you get around in the real world to catch Pokemon. It works, I am playing it right now. This is also a bit scary. I can see a lot of children becoming dangerously obsessed and getting hit by cars all over the world.

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Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 07:04:23 AM

Downloaded it and it works fine. You don't seem to have to battle wild Pokemon though, just throw a ball and hope, which is pretty lame.

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Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 04:25:47 PM

Servers seem to have shit the bed. Got kicked off ~4 hours ago and haven't been able to get back on since.

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Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 06:12:03 PM

And now it's up on Google Play for real (and the Apple store, according to GameFAQs) and working again. Shame because I had to drive around a good deal today and it was down the whole time. Oh well, I'm working 2 hours away so I should be able to catch some good stuff tomorrow.

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Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 05:22:53 AM

This is also a bit scary. I can see a lot of children becoming dangerously obsessed and getting hit by cars all over the world.

To say nothing of the number of people who are apparently wandering into unfamiliar neighborhoods late at night. Games do funny things to people. I'm not sure I want to install this one and give it a shot.

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Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 10:54:16 AM

It's not really playable now anyway; got DC'd 2 hours ago and still can't get back on.

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Reply #6 on: July 07, 2016, 04:11:03 PM

It's not really playable now anyway; got DC'd 2 hours ago and still can't get back on.

Yeah. Been up and down for the last 6 hours. Still though -  this is kinda fun. Having more fun with this than in the 2 months I tried to play and enjoy Ingress.

Upon further review, aside from typical server capacity issues, this game is quite fun and is the IT thing right now. GF and I are playing it together and were out all last night walking around and 'site seeing.' She's hooked even though this is not quite her style. Either way, we ran into so many other players all with their phones out tuned to the same maps and images that it was almost surreal. And it was everyone... couple gay guys walking their dogs chatting about the hope of trading, gaggle of asian girls laughing as they were flicking their screens throwing pokeballs at images on their screens, group of three black guys in their mid 20s wondering why the rustling leaves haven't yielded anything event though they been walking around this spot for 10 minutes... Made me smile a bit. Wonder how long it will last and how much attention Niantic will give it.

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Reply #7 on: July 09, 2016, 07:21:22 PM

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Reply #8 on: July 09, 2016, 08:08:00 PM

It's too fucking hot to play this here. Plus the line between "hey, this neighborhood is cool" and "I will get mugged for meth money" varies from block to block. 

Eh, and I don't care enough either.  awesome, for real

I'd rather just have an official pokemon game on my phone (with multiplayer goodies) and ditch the AR shit.


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Reply #9 on: July 09, 2016, 10:40:23 PM

So, far as I can tell this isn't a game.

Maybe I don't get it.
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Reply #10 on: July 09, 2016, 10:51:16 PM

Pokemon forces people to accept they live in shitty cities. Nice!
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Reply #11 on: July 10, 2016, 01:25:46 AM

Pokemon forces people to accept they live in shitty cities. Nice!

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Reply #12 on: July 10, 2016, 06:38:54 AM

My kids have been running all over the house with this.  Driving me nuts.

I may download and check it out :)

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Reply #13 on: July 10, 2016, 07:29:27 AM

My biggest complaint is the (lack of) combat. Catching wild Pokemon just requires you to swipe-throw balls at them, and the gym battles consist of tap for basic attack, tap-and-hold for special attack, and swipe sideways to dodge. I wish they had just kept the standard Pokemon combat with no swiping and shit and added the ARG bits.

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Reply #14 on: July 10, 2016, 07:41:19 AM

My biggest complaint is the (lack of) combat. Catching wild Pokemon just requires you to swipe-throw balls at them, and the gym battles consist of tap for basic attack, tap-and-hold for special attack, and swipe sideways to dodge. I wish they had just kept the standard Pokemon combat with no swiping and shit and added the ARG bits.

Was thinking the same thing but on the other hand, I doubt they'd get such a wide spread of users if they made it so you had to take the extra time to battle it out in order to catch them. In the rush rush world, this is the simplest fix. Same with the gym battles... turn based action would slow it down so much that most casual users would not even bother and eventually would be lost.

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Reply #15 on: July 10, 2016, 08:18:31 AM

My biggest complaint is the (lack of) combat. Catching wild Pokemon just requires you to swipe-throw balls at them, and the gym battles consist of tap for basic attack, tap-and-hold for special attack, and swipe sideways to dodge. I wish they had just kept the standard Pokemon combat with no swiping and shit and added the ARG bits.

If Nintendo allowed that then they'd only be proving there's no reason to buy the Gameboys anymore and a very large chunk of revenue goes bye-bye.

So, no, you want Pokemon you're going to have to buy the GB and the game. This is as close as you're getting for a good while.

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Reply #16 on: July 10, 2016, 08:44:48 AM

My biggest complaint is the (lack of) combat. Catching wild Pokemon just requires you to swipe-throw balls at them, and the gym battles consist of tap for basic attack, tap-and-hold for special attack, and swipe sideways to dodge. I wish they had just kept the standard Pokemon combat with no swiping and shit and added the ARG bits.

If Nintendo allowed that then they'd only be proving there's no reason to buy the Gameboys anymore and a very large chunk of revenue goes bye-bye.

So, no, you want Pokemon you're going to have to buy the GB and the game. This is as close as you're getting for a good while.

Good point too. Since that was really the only thing that they pushed at E3 other than Zelda...

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Reply #17 on: July 10, 2016, 09:45:36 AM

My biggest complaint is the (lack of) combat. Catching wild Pokemon just requires you to swipe-throw balls at them, and the gym battles consist of tap for basic attack, tap-and-hold for special attack, and swipe sideways to dodge. I wish they had just kept the standard Pokemon combat with no swiping and shit and added the ARG bits.

And this is why it's not a game.
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Reply #18 on: July 10, 2016, 11:54:20 AM

The game is in getting your GPS to ping back accurately. Jesus I spent 20 minutes walking around 2 stops only to have my avatar wander around it but never in range of either.

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Reply #19 on: July 10, 2016, 02:37:59 PM

The game is in getting your GPS to ping back accurately. Jesus I spent 20 minutes walking around 2 stops only to have my avatar wander around it but never in range of either.

Turn on Wi-Fi. Phones use shit GPS and rely more on global wi-fi maps than actual GPS signal.

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Reply #20 on: July 10, 2016, 03:34:58 PM

The game is in getting your GPS to ping back accurately. Jesus I spent 20 minutes walking around 2 stops only to have my avatar wander around it but never in range of either.

Turn on Wi-Fi. Phones use shit GPS and rely more on global wi-fi maps than actual GPS signal.

Sadly I was around a park outside the Zoo here. No wifi in the area. And if I am getting weak wifi signal it will lag out my game.

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Reply #21 on: July 10, 2016, 05:52:57 PM

The game certainly doesn't handle poor signal well. The closest Gym to my house is at a local lighthouse where I only get 3G service (no 4G LTE out there), so when I battled the Gym I got the defender down to 1 HP where he stayed while killing the rest of my team. Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #22 on: July 10, 2016, 06:36:12 PM

There's a gym right next to my house, I can't quite hit it while in my house but if I walk 20' or so from my driveway I can hit it and a pokestop (w/e it's called).  There's like a couple 1000+ lv pokemon in it though and I think my max is 93.  Not sure the mechanics of getting them leveled up but I'm guessing it just means play a bunch.  There's another couple gyms down the street so we went to one of those and it also did the 1hp thing where the guy wouldn't die and we eventually just quit the app.

I'd agree on the non game thing but twice in the last two days one of my kids has asked me to go on a walk so he could catch pokemon and hatch eggs, so I'm not going to complain too much if it gets him outside  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Also this game takes a shit on my battery.  I can actually watch the numbers tick down in real time.
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Reply #23 on: July 10, 2016, 07:03:30 PM

The game certainly doesn't handle poor signal well. The closest Gym to my house is at a local lighthouse where I only get 3G service (no 4G LTE out there), so when I battled the Gym I got the defender down to 1 HP where he stayed while killing the rest of my team. Ohhhhh, I see.

IIRC, that is a bug, not due to connectivity. Then again, it could be a bug based on connectivity.

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Reply #24 on: July 10, 2016, 07:31:00 PM

There's a gym right next to my house, I can't quite hit it while in my house but if I walk 20' or so from my driveway I can hit it and a pokestop (w/e it's called).  There's like a couple 1000+ lv pokemon in it though and I think my max is 93.  Not sure the mechanics of getting them leveled up but I'm guessing it just means play a bunch.  There's another couple gyms down the street so we went to one of those and it also did the 1hp thing where the guy wouldn't die and we eventually just quit the app.

I'd agree on the non game thing but twice in the last two days one of my kids has asked me to go on a walk so he could catch pokemon and hatch eggs, so I'm not going to complain too much if it gets him outside  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Also this game takes a shit on my battery.  I can actually watch the numbers tick down in real time.
Combat Power is based on training, evolution and a hidden base value. When you catch Pokemon they come with random strength, you have to look at where along that like, XP arch thing they are to get a sense of where they'll end up when fully trained. You train them with Stardust and that Pokemon's specific candy; you get 3 candy for catching a Pokemon and 1 for releasing it.

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Reply #25 on: July 10, 2016, 07:54:32 PM

There's a gym right next to my house, I can't quite hit it while in my house but if I walk 20' or so from my driveway I can hit it and a pokestop (w/e it's called).  There's like a couple 1000+ lv pokemon in it though and I think my max is 93.  Not sure the mechanics of getting them leveled up but I'm guessing it just means play a bunch.  There's another couple gyms down the street so we went to one of those and it also did the 1hp thing where the guy wouldn't die and we eventually just quit the app.

I'd agree on the non game thing but twice in the last two days one of my kids has asked me to go on a walk so he could catch pokemon and hatch eggs, so I'm not going to complain too much if it gets him outside  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Also this game takes a shit on my battery.  I can actually watch the numbers tick down in real time.
Combat Power is based on training, evolution and a hidden base value. When you catch Pokemon they come with random strength, you have to look at where along that like, XP arch thing they are to get a sense of where they'll end up when fully trained. You train them with Stardust and that Pokemon's specific candy; you get 3 candy for catching a Pokemon and 1 for releasing it.

You also get a lot of candy for hatching eggs for that specific pokemon. I have been in the 7-8 range each hatch.

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Reply #26 on: July 10, 2016, 08:56:28 PM

Jesus, how old are you people? Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #27 on: July 10, 2016, 09:42:45 PM

I'm holding out until they make this for my flip phone.   why so serious?

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Reply #28 on: July 10, 2016, 10:32:09 PM

In my town there are veritable hordes of teenagers wandering around playing this game until the wee hours.  It's insane.
It's like the 1950's all over again.  People at the Sonic and shit.  People strolling.  It really is an alternate reality.

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Reply #29 on: July 10, 2016, 11:54:42 PM

Is it fairly simple to get this thing up and running?  I don't give two shits about Pokemon, but I have a kid or two that might find it interesting.

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Reply #30 on: July 11, 2016, 03:11:59 AM

Is it fairly simple to get this thing up and running?  I don't give two shits about Pokemon, but I have a kid or two that might find it interesting.

So easy, a caveman can do it   awesome, for real

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Reply #31 on: July 11, 2016, 06:32:16 AM

Is it fairly simple to get this thing up and running?  I don't give two shits about Pokemon, but I have a kid or two that might find it interesting.
Yea it's really simple.

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Reply #32 on: July 11, 2016, 06:40:18 AM

Mine locked up when I was close to a Snorlax in my neighborhood.

Anyway, yeah, this is pretty much a re-skin of Ingress, and has all the problems as well as a few of the good ideas of Ingress and Shadow Cities. Not setting it up so trainers can battle each other, or so there's really any battle mechanism except having gyms dominated by people who play too much/pay too much in microtransactions (as was the case with Ingress), nearly guarantees that by September this will be gathering dust. The only thing to do past a certain point will be to obsess maybe about the one you haven't caught--most players will not be able to meaningfully engage the gym battles. It's not just that Nintendo doesn't want the game to cut into the handheld exclusivity, it's also that Niantic is 100% unprepared to code for direct device-to-device interaction like a Pokemon battle except through something like a gym.
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Reply #33 on: July 11, 2016, 06:43:46 AM

However, it will almost certainly drive significant sales for Sun/Moon later in the year.
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Reply #34 on: July 11, 2016, 07:38:52 AM

One of the more popular vape shops in Austin ended up being a gym. I'm not sure what the bounding box looks like, but people under 18 can't go in.
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