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luckton
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Reply #35 on: March 21, 2016, 02:54:24 PM

There was a balance patch today to address some stuff. Giants got buffed, princes got nerfed, and some overall QoL stuffs. In game notes should be there.

I'm starting to encounter people in Arena 3 with Arena 4+ cards. They're a pain, but I'm still managing to win 75% of the time with my current setup:

Goblin Spearmen Hut
Skeleton Graveyard
Goblin Spearmen
Archers
Minions
Cannon
Giant
Big Skeleton

If I can get skels and gobbos pumped out from their spawns, the giant and big skel lead the charge. By the time they can answer the giant/big skel, I've already got a mob behind them to push through, and if/when we reach the last minute x2 rush, I can just keep dropping giants/big skels/huts until I win. I doesn't always work, especially if they cheese me back with an even bigger swarm (witch + skel army + other swarms or counter swarm stuff), but it's fun and keeps the chests rolling in.

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Reply #36 on: March 21, 2016, 10:45:28 PM

My swarm tactics are starting to not work as well as I get higher lvl opponents.

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Reply #37 on: March 25, 2016, 06:37:11 AM

If a guy drops a hut i know im gonna win.  Bomb tower shuts it down.

Tombstone is great for stopping prince or hog tho.

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Reply #38 on: March 25, 2016, 06:03:44 PM

Why run tombstone over normal skeletons? If you're answering prince or hog with it, running the tombstone amounts to absorbing 1 extra hit for 2 elixir over the skeletons, which isn't great. And you're always answering prince or hog since everyone and their dog runs at least one of those.

My roster has been fairly stable for a while at:
Musketeer
Baby Dragon
Prince
Knight
Arrows
Bomber
Archers
Skeletons

Bomber, dragon, and arrows answer swarms, skeletons answer princes, hog riders (sort of), and giant skeletons (pull them off the road near your river, so the skelly bomb won't kill all your dudes). Nothing dies to arrows (except for skeletons, but they're already dying instantly to whatever you dropped them on) so that card is mostly dead against you. Win by coordinating a push with dragon or knight as a tank backed up by ranged units, then have a prince ninja their other tower after they've spent all their elixir answering you.
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Reply #39 on: March 25, 2016, 06:52:09 PM

I can't tell if it's good balance or not, but epics feel very boom or bust to me. If they're unchecked they all wreck face, but all of them have some pretty easy counters.

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7   Arrows
6   Minion Swarm
7   Spear Goblins
7   Knight
7   Barbarians
7   Tesla
3   Hog Rider
4   Musketeer

So only two rares and no epics. The minion swarm is almost exclusively defensive, except for occasionally poking at bomb towers, which are the only thing I struggle with. Arrows are also defensive. Tesla counters pretty much all the hut-type structures by itself until someone can get two barb huts up, since those spawn two at a time and they have more HP.

Knight is stupidly tanky. If you can get him in front of a musketeer and the spear goblins he wrecks face. Barbs fill a similar role, but they're more DPS and a good counter to giant skeletons, witches, and giants.

Spear goblins are definitely the weakest one of the lot, but they're useful if you can get them on baby dragons which are focusing a different target. Baby dragons are nasty against swarm, but their DPS against single-targets is actually really low.

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Main gripes at the moment:
1) The MMR system is really swingy. Since it's all or nothing (rather than splitting it down by the relative number of towers lost) I tend to jump all over the trophies count, which can feel really shitty. The system in Clash of Clans seems more sensitive and better than this.
2) Due to the way cards counter each other, everyone plays really passively at the start, and whenever there's a board clear; since it's more advantageous to counter your opponent and re-attack than go on the offensive.
3) Sometimes you just get someone who has every single card a level or two higher than you and there's really fuckall you can do, which only makes point #1 worse.
4) Gold is going to become an issue really fast. I've already got four 1k upgrades pending because I can't afford all of them and I need to prioritise cards I use. This seems like it will only get worse since the rate of gold gain doesn't scale by very much at all. I guess this is where they want you to make microtransactions.

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Reply #40 on: March 25, 2016, 11:38:08 PM

Since the patch i am finding valk is a real pita.  Might have to start using her.

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Reply #41 on: March 26, 2016, 12:50:00 PM

I swapped out knight for valk and she seems to be doing well.  She fills the same role but is a little better against swarms and witch which seem all over arena 4 at least.  Not as good against the giants though.
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Reply #42 on: March 28, 2016, 08:19:58 PM

I use valk instead of carrying an aoe spell; plus she tanks pretty well (as a counter to swarms) especially with gobby and skele support. 

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Reply #43 on: March 28, 2016, 09:19:41 PM

I think you are crazy if you dont at least run arrows.  I run rocket arrows and freeze rt now.  Arrows is my swiss army knife.  Almost always useful.

Fought my first golem today.  Those things suck.  He dropped it in front of my push every time and i could barely kill it by the time it reached my tower.  Apparently i need hog or inferno...

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Reply #44 on: March 29, 2016, 02:37:09 PM

I find I need arrows to counter minion swarm.

Five 0-0 games today is pretty  Ohhhhh, I see.

It's too easy to clear the board and reset, and the game favours passive play.

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Reply #45 on: March 29, 2016, 10:13:24 PM

I have been dropping my trophies by throwing games, just so I can stay in Arena 3 for easy and quick crown chests. Hard to see a strong downside, which makes me think they need to add a better incentive to being higher rank. Also trying to roll a Rage card, with little luck.
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Reply #46 on: March 30, 2016, 06:05:13 AM

Chests are a little better so you progress a little faster.. But opening the crown chest can be a grind.  3 crown wins are a rare thing.

I want to get +2000 so i have a shot at getting a princess.

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Reply #47 on: April 18, 2016, 11:59:11 PM

I've been experimenting with decks a lot (and losing a lot of trophies in the process) and finally have found this lineup a lot of fun:
Skeletons
Spear Goblins
Zap
Knight
Bomber
Cannon
Freeze
Elixir Collector

If you cycle properly (always play cheap cards first) you can easily get five collectors out in the endgame, which makes the deck really high-skillcap. You only have a moment to think about spending elixir before your bar overflows. But opponents screw up a lot too trying to answer it all. Anyone tried anything similar?
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Reply #48 on: July 19, 2016, 03:10:23 PM

Just made a 500 gem tournament. i'll probably start it with 1 hour left on prep. It's two hours long. pokemanz is the tournament name and EDIT:   partyparty  is the password.

Get in, get you friends in, whatever. 1hr 50m left on prep as of this post.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2016, 03:21:15 PM by Wexingtn »
grebo
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Reply #49 on: July 19, 2016, 03:15:39 PM

I am in. 

Hey wait, I just realized there's no reason to ever make an open tournament.  Just make 1 password protected one, don't let anyone in, get the 1st place chest and the 500 gem achievement.  Any reason that wouldn't work?

Supercell is going to have to set up a thing where you can join a game created tournament once a week or something or there won't be any tourneys soon.

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Reply #50 on: July 19, 2016, 03:17:48 PM

I am in. 

Hey wait, I just realized there's no reason to ever make an open tournament.  Just make 1 password protected one, don't let anyone in, get the 1st place chest and the 500 gem achievement.  Any reason that wouldn't work?

Supercell is going to have to set up a thing where you can join a game created tournament once a week or something or there won't be any tourneys soon.

Yeah, I was thinking of making it public once my clan/bat country got in, but I might leave it private so everyone/most everyone can get cards
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Reply #51 on: July 19, 2016, 03:19:42 PM

Didn't make my clan private so someone ninja'd the password. It is now    partyparty

Edit: I'll probably leave the entire preparation duration since players are slow to join currently
« Last Edit: July 19, 2016, 03:27:14 PM by Wexingtn »
grebo
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Reply #52 on: July 20, 2016, 09:42:53 AM

I made it in, but then didn't get a chance to actually fight anyone because work imposed.  Oh well, still got some cards.

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Reply #53 on: September 24, 2016, 05:10:52 PM

You can find sparsely attended tournaments by searching for random letters.  I just won one with only 6 people in it by searching for gar.  3 letters seems to be the sweet spot.

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Reply #54 on: September 26, 2016, 10:09:48 AM

I think I finally broke my addiction with this one.  Feels good Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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