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Reply #70 on: September 28, 2015, 07:56:24 PM

I quit.  Everything is great at until 90, then goes to shit.

The post 90 grind is unreal. 

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Reply #71 on: September 28, 2015, 08:10:53 PM

What changes so drastically?

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Reply #72 on: September 29, 2015, 10:17:47 AM

A hard CC such as Old Curse usually shuts down phoenix if you time it right, which takes a bit of guesswork and a couple of resets. But I'd agree, he's only really obnoxious if he's sat behind something pretty tanky.

I almost have 9 heroes fully levelled and enchanted at 50, with another 3 coming along. Wouldn't mind another good tank though. Death knight is good for arena defense, but bad for offense since he doesn't really do all that much damage. Would love to see if a 3-4 tank + healer/CC combo could work as a bullshit arena team. See if you can heal-sustain for 1:30 and win that way.

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Reply #73 on: September 29, 2015, 11:02:38 AM

Does OC's ult cancel Phoenix? I thought you could still get hit during the slow portion.

I ran into some sort of bear warrior, DW, <other tank>, Phoenix, OC setup as my last crusade stage.  It was frustrating.  By that time there was nothing left to burst down the front line and bear warrior just tears it up if unchecked.

I'm farming up DK just for crusade.  The guy that's in my level range that has one is extremely lazy about leveling/gearing/skilling it. 

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Reply #74 on: September 29, 2015, 06:27:16 PM

I've seen a few scenarios with OC's freeze vs phoenix.

 - If you hit the freeze before the ult it can still go off before the actual iceblock forms, however the laser beam will also be frozen and do no damage
 - If you hit it during the same happens
 - If your ice-block interrupt the ult then phoenix won't automatically resume his ult and go into the egg when it ends
 - If phoenix does icarus dive between the freeze landing and the ice block forming he will still do damage, but get frozen mid-air somewhere.

So yeah, you can still get hit during the slow portion, but the main danger of phoenix's ult is letting it run for ages. This is why front-loading AoE damage at the start of fights to cut hsi health down as much as possible before he ults, then hitting him with the freeze once you've done all your possible ult damage and your heroes have thrown down their secondary abilities seems good.

The game doesn't have a ton of skill depth, but spacing CC ults around abilities like blind and silence seems to be important.

Have cleared hard crusade twice now (just). The main strategy seems to be to load up on bursty ults (Succubus, Emberstar, Dwarf Warrior) early on, and then sacrifice them over the last 2-3 stages. I tend to get to around stage 12 with DK, Cleric, Fallen Dominion, Old Curse and Commando before I really start to get low on HP. Subbing in a full-hp tank or nuke at that point can give you enough space to recover.

Also, I initially thought Dwarf Warrior's second skill was a bit weak, since it only activates once at the start of the fight, but it actually gives him a stupid amount of survivability against opening burst damage. I just wish his third skill wasn't complete RNG.

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Reply #75 on: September 30, 2015, 06:02:11 PM

K9 use chaplain!  Best heals by far and not bad support skills. Also phoenix makes the last fight you do trivial if you power him up in the first.

I think another thing about hard crusade is doing it helps you star up your team, which helps you do hard crusade.

I almost didnt make it today.  I hit deathbringer and cloudwalker backed up bu 5 star commando and mystic on fight 11, they ate lightning elemental and my full hp dwarf so i had no tanks for the last 4.  Frost mage was tanking by the end, which thankfully was a very scrubby team.  I had to pull out phoenix to get by 12, usually i save him for the end.

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Reply #76 on: September 30, 2015, 06:19:19 PM

I too charge Phoenix at 1.  I tend to use it around 10/11/12, where I want to win those fights with the least amount of health lost.  You can pair it with some AOE cc or DPS and get out of a sketchy fight without even losing the Phoenix in most cases.
 
I typically run Commando, Chaplain, Old Curse, Vengeance Spirit (for the billion Phoenixes), and a guild DK (regrettably, only 50).  I have a DW, Cleric and War Chief once the DK becomes unviable. Things weren't going super great, and I didn't think I'd make it until the end.  VS died at one point, so I had to go bursty.  I tried out the Arcane Sapper I had just promoted, and he almost single handedly carried the last 3 fights.  Guy takes Phoenix lasers to the face like a champ. Still only 2 star, and I kind of want to get a ninja before I take it to 3.




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Reply #77 on: October 02, 2015, 06:20:57 AM

Sapper ninja and vanguard for max annoyance team.

I dont have vengeance yet, i want her.  Her stun is epic.  Does she come anywhere near OC for dps?

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Reply #78 on: October 04, 2015, 01:57:38 AM

Mine are pretty similar, but my VS is 3 star while the OC is still 2 star.  Her main benefit outside of the stun is that her auto hits 4 targets at reduced damage (right now it adds up to 280% of her physical damage). Her purple skill gives her a ton of HP.  Her blue skill is basically worthless and is a net DPS loss.

She's basically a walking ult that has pretty steady damage. No burst though, so there's not a ton RNG can do for you.  Amazingly effective if someone has a channeled ult, though. You shut that down immediately. You can pretty much interrupt anything with a cast time.


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Reply #79 on: October 22, 2015, 11:34:19 AM

Any advice on what to prioritize in spending Grand Arena points?  I already got my Ember Blade to 3* and just pulled a Wizard Doctor out of a chest. Was thinking Cloud Walker and Fallen Dominion, but I've heard they fall off later.

BTW, Ninja Assassin pretty much trivializes Crusade.  Power him up once, and you wont' have to worry about a backline until somewhere around stage 12.

« Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 11:39:11 AM by Rasix »

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Reply #80 on: October 25, 2015, 12:12:01 PM

Griffin is so broken, so so so broken.

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Reply #81 on: October 25, 2015, 03:05:34 PM

I normally don't get into mobile games too much, but with my recent phone upgrade to a Note 5, and based on this thread, I thought I'd give this a shot.

Well, thanks jerks.  I'm not addicted exactly, but I do watch my refresh timers pretty closely let's just say. 

I DL'ed the HD version and just tap tapped away for awhile having a fine ol' time.  I came back to this thread and re-read the posts with context after playing and realized I was kinda gimped.  I went to a new server and started grinding away.

I had better RNG luck on my first go-round with unlocking new characters (so far anyway) but been that's mitigated by the fact I know slightly more what I'm doing and I'm not wasting resources leveling up ALL my guys - including the mediocre ones.  Besides the core heroes and guys I seem to unlock through game mechanics and login stuff (Lightning Elemental, Queen of Curse) I picked up the Cleric, Commando, and Vanguard Warrior.  As soon as the Crusade refreshes I'm picking up the Death Knight.

This time around I focused on building out the Admiral and the Chaplain early on (with some Cleric and Shadowleaf mixed in), next I'm going to work on Commando and DK then whatever DPS...Old Curse or something I dunno.
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Reply #82 on: November 17, 2015, 06:25:40 AM

This seems to be randomly duping things today.

Spent xp potions to find they were still in inventory later, also I'm fairly sure I was able to open one of my free bronze chests twice.

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Reply #83 on: November 20, 2015, 11:00:36 AM

This 2.0 version is fucking terrible.  The worst is the combat lag. Jeebus it's bad.

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Reply #84 on: November 20, 2015, 05:11:43 PM

This 2.0 version is fucking terrible.  The worst is the combat lag. Jeebus it's bad.

This game had me pretty good, but the update has taken care of that. Battles went from being enjoyable to spectate and interact with to being a laggy, choppy shitfest. They apparently had to remake a bunch of characters due to an IP lawsuit, and the new characters are unimaginative and most of the animations are broken. They changed the characters that are farmable from campaign, but only if you update, which isn't required. So, you have people playing two completely different games, depending on their version.  With PvP as a key element for resource gathering (both Arena and Crusade) this makes no sense at all, and invalidates previous choices to invest currency in certain heroes.

Supposedly, they also had to replace a bunch of interface code that they had stolen from another game, and now almost every window has misspellings, crowded text, and just shitty design. For example, you now can't buy stamina (something most players will do 2-4 times a day)  in the Campaign screen. Instead, you have to leave campaign, do it on the main screen, reload campaign back at the default chapter, and scroll back to where you were. Other daily activities like the Trials and Arena are now buried behind multiple clicks, and new and exciting loading bars. Even the new Grand Challenge (what motivated me to update, to my dismay) is a time-consuming series of battles with awful reward.

I'm sure they got a nice cash grab out of it while it lasted.
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Reply #85 on: November 23, 2015, 08:40:09 AM

You can buy stamina from the campaign if you do it by attempting to use more than you have. Game pops up a window that says 'hey buy some hams'.

But in general - yeah, what you said. I particularly dislike how bad the detection is when you try to click on a thing.

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