Windows 10

[apocrypha]

Even the old people

    

[Yegolev]

Ever since The Ribbon, no one fucking cares anymore.  As long as Facebook and pornhub.com works.

[Sky]

I stopped giving a shit mid-way through XP's run. Used to mod the shit out of the OS. Now I just shut off the more egregious shit and get on with life.

[Selby]

Now I just shut off the more egregious shit and get on with life.

Exactly.  I mod'd the hell out of shit for 10 years and for the last 12-13 have given next to no fucks once I turn off the annoying bits and work around the rest naturally.

[Lucas]

Made it safely to the "other side" (anniversary update): now using Microsoft Edge with AdBlock, although I still can't understand why the zoom feature is general and not page-based like Chrome.

[ajax34i]

So how long before they borrow a page from game EULA's and decide that modifying the client (in this case, the OS) gets you a perma-ban on the Windows license?

[apocrypha]

I've also upgraded everything except the file server to the Anniversary Update, and it's broken my file sharing over the network. All of the upgraded PCs can see the file server, but none of them can be seen. Can't figure it out, very annoying.

[SurfD]

So, mildly annoying issue that I have encountered so far:

Fresh install of Win 10.  100% brand  new computer.  All drivers updated.  Installed FireFox.  For some reason, about 30% of the time I open a new tab or click link, the browser simply refuses to load the page.  I get a "server not found" page with the Try Again button.  Clicking try again once or twice will bring the intended page up no problem, but the frequency at which this happens is beginning to annoy me.

Any thoughts?  I dont think  it is a DNS issue with my router, as nothing with the router settings has changed and my old pc never had this problem, and also, the problem conveniently never seems to occur if I open anything with Edge.

[apocrypha]

Have a look at this page.

My file sharing issue seems to have resolved itself. I did nothing. It started working again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sky]

Random thing I just found that makes me like Win10 a lot more: rt-clicking the start button (or whatever tehy call it now) brings up a non-bullshit start menu. Nice.

[Father mike]

Awesome find, Sky.  Is there a setting somewhere to make that menu the default?

[Morat20]

Random thing I just found that makes me like Win10 a lot more: rt-clicking the start button (or whatever tehy call it now) brings up a non-bullshit start menu. Nice.

Doesn't do that for me, but right-clicking does. Also windows-X.

[Mandella]

Awesome find, Sky.  Is there a setting somewhere to make that menu the default?

Download Windows Classic Shell.

[schild]

Didn't Classic Shell have some kind of insane malware issue last week or maybe two weeks ago?

[Engels]

Random thing I just found that makes me like Win10 a lot more: rt-clicking the start button (or whatever tehy call it now) brings up a non-bullshit start menu. Nice.

Doesn't do that for me, but right-clicking does. Also windows-X.

Type 'winver' in a command prompt and make sure you are running the same version he is?

[Mandella]

Didn't Classic Shell have some kind of insane malware issue last week or maybe two weeks ago?

Well shit, not that I noticed.

 

[Rendakor]

Didn't Classic Shell have some kind of insane malware issue last week or maybe two weeks ago?

Well shit, not that I noticed.

 

I didn't hear about it either. Fuck.

[apocrypha]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/04/classicshell_audicity_infection/

I suspect you'd know about it by now if you had it.

[Mandella]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/04/classicshell_audicity_infection/

I suspect you'd know about it by now if you had it.

Still better than Win10's default UI.

 

More seriously, yet another reason to always download from the original source, if possible.

Although now that I check, Classicshell uses Mediafire as their official download site...

 

[Paelos]

OK so my computer has now decided to start itself up on it's own, even after it's turned off and shut down. Not hibernating but actually off.

It happened at 11PM last night. Just randomly starts turning on. It's been doing this for a few days now at different times.

When I check the event logs, it says the source of wakeup is "Unknown" and that "the system has returned from a low power state"

WTF is going on, I don't like waking up at 3AM because my monitor is staring at me.

[rattran]

My win10 machine has been doing the same thing in the last week. Usually within a hour of shutdown I notice it's on again. Only thing I've changed is a new mouse.
Did you recently change to a deathadder elite?

[Paelos]

I've changed nothing. This happened within the last week as well. It's like something to do with updates, but I can't put my finger on why since it says there are no updates.

[01101010]

That is weird and a little disconcerting. I had my PC waking up from sleep before because Windows defaulted some switch to allow applications to wake up my PC. Never happened again after I manually switched that off. Doubt it is the same thing though.

[Chimpy]

Chances are that the next time it installs patches it won't turn on at all so count yourself lucky 

[Sir T]

I recommend plugging out the modem or network cable to see us it responding to a command. After that you can unplug it and remove the battery for notebooks.

[Yegolev]

Obviously it can't zombie while powered off.  Welcome to MS using your power & processors to run their HR reports.

[Torinak]

OK so my computer has now decided to start itself up on it's own, even after it's turned off and shut down. Not hibernating but actually off.

It happened at 11PM last night. Just randomly starts turning on. It's been doing this for a few days now at different times.

When I check the event logs, it says the source of wakeup is "Unknown" and that "the system has returned from a low power state"

WTF is going on, I don't like waking up at 3AM because my monitor is staring at me.

Gotta upload "telemetry" sometime!

With the new Microsoft policy on updates (i.e., they're all bundled, and they won't tell you what's in them beyond "an important update") there's no way to know what kinds of things are getting snuck in. I'm looking forward to having to go over the Win7 registry and services list with a fine-toothed comb after every Patch Tuesday from now on.

[Lightstalker]

From a command shell:  powercfg -lastwake

Eventlogs won't always get the message, but the OS (as exposed through powercfg) should know.  For me it has been:  Windows Update (the check for restart task that ran every day even if updates were not applied), the Network Card, some 3rd party updater.

It could literally be anything, and often won't be the same thing twice.  Also, several checks re-enable themselves via scheduled task.  You can disable the task (some tasks get auto-enabled regularly too) or just add your own task to re-disable these settings as they come up.

Real shit show, honestly.

[JRave]

I can't say if this will help you as I do not have Win10 anymore.  But check for Fast Startup being enabled, apparently if it is enabled windows prevents an actual shutdown so it can download/install/update windows itself.  It piggybacks off the system's hibernate settings so disabling hibernate disables it as well.   I have no clue what you would need to change to keep hibernate but disable fast startup.

[KallDrexx]

At one point I tracked down my Nvidia Shield Tv device sending a message over the LAN that would wake my pc up. 

[NowhereMan]

We've got a machine at work that turns itself on every night, it's on 7 though and all auto updates are turned off. I don't think anyone has tried to track down the root cause.

Had a fun day with my laptop earlier in the week, it applied the latest Win10 update and I think got interrupted. Turns out that particular one if it doesn't go through results in a boot loop, I had a Win10 ISO but it wouldn't let me use that to boot into safemode in the main OS. You also can't interrupt Win10 loading to change the boot mode so it seems like the only way to boot into safe mode is through Windows itself.

Luckily for some reason I fired it up the next day and just got a message saying Windows couldn't update successfully but losing the use of the laptop for almost 2 days was a real pain, especially as I ended up losing my whole evening trying to get it working again.

[Selby]

Luckily for some reason I fired it up the next day and just got a message saying Windows couldn't update successfully but losing the use of the laptop for almost 2 days was a real pain, especially as I ended up losing my whole evening trying to get it working again.

This is extremely annoying, yes. What I've found is that you have to give it a certain number of attempts to boot before it considers it "failed" and reverts back. Between 4 computers at home and work, it's happened twice now.

[Chimpy]

My mom's machine had that happen, it was running chkdsk after one boot but it doesn't display anything to tell you it is doing something as in previous versions so it looks totally locked up.

[NowhereMan]

This is extremely annoying, yes. What I've found is that you have to give it a certain number of attempts to boot before it considers it "failed" and reverts back. Between 4 computers at home and work, it's happened twice now.

I'm guessing it's quite a few because I left in a boot loop for like an hour at one point. I'm glad that it does seem to eventually fix itself but I really think MS could benefit from inserting a 1 or 2 second screen letting you go into the boot menu when loading. Between SSDs and improved code for the boot there is literally no option for that anymore.

[shiznitz]

Anniversary update disabled Report Center and Start Button. At least I can right click on the latter to get to the functions but all the nifty new App interface stuff is inaccessible. The two proposed solutions from MSFT via the community boards have failed.