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Reply #210 on: March 07, 2016, 02:10:01 AM

From what I could see in the trailer the new and exciting development is that ghosts can possess people, which will undoubtedly lead to a sexy seduction gone comically wrong type scene with one of the ladies, and there's some conspiracy with someone artificially creating/drawing in ghosts.

Both of those sounds utterly dumb to me although I guess the latter might make some sense (ghosts clearly are affected by technological gizmos, there was a weird mystical human device in 1 so it's not unreasonable that 30 years after ghosts 3 Reallzz!!1 someone would invent something to do the same thing).

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Reply #211 on: March 07, 2016, 02:21:55 AM

From what I could see in the trailer the new and exciting development is that ghosts can possess people...

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Reply #212 on: March 07, 2016, 03:40:44 AM

I'm guessing that entire post was sarcasm.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #213 on: March 07, 2016, 05:02:45 AM

Remember when I said ghostbusters wasn't a comedy and you all laughed and hur dur "haha medium thinks ghostbusters is dark and gritty".

Well here is your comedy ghostbusters complete with all the unfunny aspects of this era. Enjoy kids.
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Reply #214 on: March 07, 2016, 05:21:58 AM

Most of the time when people say "Remember when I said that?" it's when they were eventually proven right about something. I'll give you credit at least for bucking the trend and reminding us of something you said that was, and remains,  batshit insane.
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Reply #215 on: March 07, 2016, 06:46:26 AM

Ghostbusters was about as Dark and Gritty as a Microchip Cleanroom.

It was a comedy through and through.  You're still wrong.

I'm not sure I'd call this a comedy as yet.  Still waiting on the GOOOD trailer.   why so serious?

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Reply #216 on: March 07, 2016, 07:03:55 AM

Ghostbusters was about as Dark and Gritty as a Microchip Cleanroom.

It was a comedy through and through.  You're still wrong.

I'm not sure I'd call this a comedy as yet.  Still waiting on the GOOOD trailer.   why so serious?

I think you are going to have to wait a long time.

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Reply #217 on: March 07, 2016, 07:12:25 AM

I'm glad this movie has more in common with 21 jump street.
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Reply #218 on: March 07, 2016, 07:29:18 AM

But is it a 'Three Stooges' comedy or a 'Marx Brothers' comedy?   Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #219 on: March 07, 2016, 08:19:27 AM

If you have never watched the Frighteners it was an incredible sequel to ghostbusters...

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Reply #220 on: March 07, 2016, 08:43:57 AM

Guy on Reddit claims to have seen the 70% copy and gives an awful review:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostbusters/comments/493zai/ive_seen_an_early_version_of_the_new_ghostbusters/

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Reply #221 on: March 07, 2016, 08:57:30 AM

OK, I read that.

If true, all hope is gone.  I wouldn't even watch that shit for free.


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Reply #222 on: March 07, 2016, 06:44:31 PM

Guy on Reddit claims to have seen the 70% copy and gives an awful review:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostbusters/comments/493zai/ive_seen_an_early_version_of_the_new_ghostbusters/
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Reply #223 on: March 07, 2016, 10:21:34 PM

But this was the ghostbusters you all wanted.   why so serious?
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Reply #224 on: March 08, 2016, 08:02:00 AM

No, the Ghostbusters I wanted was made 30 years ago and should have been left alone.

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Reply #225 on: March 08, 2016, 08:17:25 AM

But this was the ghostbusters you all wanted.   why so serious?
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Reply #226 on: March 08, 2016, 10:21:35 AM

No, the Ghostbusters I wanted was made 30 years ago and should have been left alone.

To be fair, the Ghostbusters of 30 years ago has been left alone. I mean, nobody physically destroyed the negatives in the process of changing the order in which various characters shot each other, and then refused to let the original ever be published again.

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Reply #227 on: March 08, 2016, 04:30:00 PM

I saw today that Strange Brew was coming out soon as well...only they are remastering the original and putting it on blu-Ray. So it might be the best film of 1983 you watch this year.

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Reply #228 on: March 08, 2016, 04:37:29 PM

I saw today that Strange Brew was coming out soon as well...only they are remastering the original and putting it on blu-Ray. So it might be the best film of 1983 you watch this year.
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Reply #229 on: March 09, 2016, 04:09:46 AM

To be fair, this wasnt as bad as I though it was going to be.

It was even worse.

I watched it on the Angry Joe review, and I kept looking at his face while watching it and his looks of horror I imagine matched my own expressions.

Some interesting comments on the Plot synopsis above https://www.reddit.com/r/ghostbusters/comments/493zai/ive_seen_an_early_version_of_the_new_ghostbusters/

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There's also stuff in there about trying to sue Bill Murray into doing a cameo

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[–]CoSonfused 7 points 2 days ago

Really?

[–]MetalOrgy 5 points 2 days ago

https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/104704

[–]AsmundGudrod 24 points 2 days ago

    In order to more fully evaluate our position if Bill Murray again declines to engage on “Ghostbusters”, AG requested that we identify “aggressive” litigation counsel with whom we can consult to evaluate our alternatives and strategize.

wow....................


[–]puzzleddaily 7 points 1 day ago

Holy fuck. That explains that!

[–]SchottGun 3 points 13 hours ago

I wonder if that is how they got the rest of them to come back. IIRC Earnie Hudson said he didn't think this movie would work, then all of a sudden he changed his tune and is in the movie.

When your movie is so bad you have to threaten to SUE people if they refuse to be in it and get a paycheck...

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To be fair there IS a Ghostbusters 3. It's the Atari published video-game (it's on Steam still if you PC Game). It was written and voiced by the original crew. It continues the storyline after GB2. You play a voiceless new recruit and the whole game feels amazing. It has throwbacks to the first two movies and rolls with the comedy. It's very fun to play and the story is absolutely top notch.

[–]rufio_vega 7 points 2 days ago

Rookie even appears in the IDW comic, which is set in the same continuity as the original movies and game.

[–]tiberseptim37 4 points 19 hours ago

It helps that Ramis and Aykroyd punched up the script, and all four original GBs reprised their roles, complete with in-game likenesses.

I didnt know that. TO STEAM FORTHWITH!!


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Reply #230 on: March 09, 2016, 06:39:19 AM

Yeah, that's what I got from the trailer. It's Madea hunts ghosts.

Wow, that's pretty apt. Good call.

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Reply #231 on: March 09, 2016, 07:42:58 AM

The original was a great stand alone movie. Sadly, it came at a time when Hollywood was milking movies of all the cash they could by extending the life of them too long with sequels. GB2 was a shell of a movie and IMHO was horrible. Ghostbusters did not need a sequel, much less a reboot. This just reeks of a film industry devoid of original ideas. Occasionally one will pop up here and there, but for the most part... it has been just shit year after year.

I won't be shocked if most of my favorite movies from the 80s get rebooted... Fletch, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Fast Times, Goonies, Gremlins... plenty of them to bastardize.

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Reply #232 on: March 09, 2016, 08:12:16 AM

The industry is not devoid of original ideas any more than books, music, games, or any creative industry. The problem is, much like games, the investment to create makes the people fronting the money risk-averse.

It's a goddamned oroborus of "This is too expensive, I need to get involved; oh shit that didn't do well, it was clearly the idea. Let's go back to the well of ideas that worked. Only bigger, with more budget! Wait, now it's too expensive..."

Everything must do better year-over-year. This has lead to blockbusters. Then bigger blockbusters. Then MEGA SPECTACALES with over-the-top scenes and multi-franchise deals. The consequence is that things have gotten far, far too expensive to make. Smaller budgets, more reasonable and able to take risks and you'd see more creativity. Though then that creativity would ballooon out.

If the cycle continues, you can predict Deadpool 2 will suck, because the studio will throw TOO much money at it and start to meddle.

Then tack on that 90% of everything is crap. Even back in the "golden days" of movies this was true. The difference was there were more being made. You have to make fewer movies when they have larger budgets.. so that 90% rule is going to fuck what seems to be a lot more pictures.
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Reply #233 on: March 09, 2016, 09:05:50 AM

The "got to be bigger" is the real problem. Movies have always had budgets bigger than they need to be, and guys like Robert Rodriguez and Kevin Smith in the '90's proved that. None of their best movies were made with any sort of budget whatsoever, especially in comparison to similar movies in similar genres. El Mariachi and Desperado were made for a combined total of less than most big-name actors make for doing one movie and are both insanely good action movies, IMO.

Then Hollywood got CGI and suddenly no idea was un-filmable. And very few directors have been able to make good movies with no constraints whatsoever because self-editing is the hardest thing for any creative to do. And Hollywood's risk-aversion has come down to making fewer movies with bigger budgets in sure-thing genres as opposed to lots of movies with smaller, tighter budgets but diversified genres. This movie has $150 million budget. Let that sink in for a minute. The original had a $30 million budget (which is about $72 million in 2015 dollars). So we now have a movie that spend twice as much as the original to make. Why? Why couldn't this have been made for half that? Comedies, even effects heavy comedies, don't need that much of a budget.

The Hangover had a $35 million budget and made almost half a billion dollars. The Hangover 2 had an $80 million budget and made over half a billion. Yes, they didn't have the effects budget that Ghostbusters CGI ghosts probably required, but the stars probably got paid a good bit more than they did for the first (because they weren't stars when the first was made). So then Hollywood decided we needed Hangover 3 with a budget of $103 million (more star money) and yet that one only made $362 million.

Learning the proper budgets for movies appears to be a retrograde process in Hollywood. Success seems to breed failure.

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Reply #234 on: March 09, 2016, 10:50:31 AM

They really should remake the Goonies. It's been 30 years, and it could be updated to a more modern setting without losing the story.

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Reply #235 on: March 09, 2016, 11:32:19 AM

They really should remake the Goonies. It's been 30 years, and it could be updated to a more modern setting without losing the story.

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Reply #236 on: March 09, 2016, 11:40:46 AM

They really should remake the Goonies. It's been 30 years, and it could be updated to a more modern setting without losing the story.
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Reply #237 on: March 09, 2016, 11:51:52 AM

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Reply #238 on: March 09, 2016, 11:57:23 AM

They really should remake the Goonies. It's been 30 years, and it could be updated to a more modern setting without losing the story.
Fuck that.

Why not? There's nothing about that story that makes it impossible to update to today.

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Reply #239 on: March 09, 2016, 12:02:33 PM

They really should remake the Goonies. It's been 30 years, and it could be updated to a more modern setting without losing the story.
Fuck that.

Why not? There's nothing about that story that makes it impossible to update to today.

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Reply #240 on: March 09, 2016, 12:23:10 PM

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To be fair there IS a Ghostbusters 3. It's the Atari published video-game (it's on Steam still if you PC Game). It was written and voiced by the original crew. It continues the storyline after GB2. You play a voiceless new recruit and the whole game feels amazing. It has throwbacks to the first two movies and rolls with the comedy. It's very fun to play and the story is absolutely top notch.

[–]rufio_vega 7 points 2 days ago

Rookie even appears in the IDW comic, which is set in the same continuity as the original movies and game.

[–]tiberseptim37 4 points 19 hours ago

It helps that Ramis and Aykroyd punched up the script, and all four original GBs reprised their roles, complete with in-game likenesses.

I didnt know that. TO STEAM FORTHWITH!!



IIRC, this was the only sequel/reboot that Murray himself was excited about. I have no idea how well it sold though...
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Reply #241 on: March 09, 2016, 02:41:47 PM


Ok well that was better. It made a lot more sense and we actually got to see what Chris Hemsworth brought to the table. The part with Leslie Jones and the stage-diving thing doesn't really improve the "this is a racial sterrotype character" but it was at least funnier and more inventive than "AWW HELL NAW!"

Still not that interesting though.

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Reply #242 on: March 09, 2016, 06:34:13 PM

In this film is that 80s ghostbusters cannon? The opening text would seem to imply yes, but cameos by the actors playing different roles would seem to imply no.

The international trailer seems to confirm a bunch of stuff in that reddit post. Welp.

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Reply #243 on: March 09, 2016, 08:39:58 PM

In this film is that 80s ghostbusters cannon? The opening text would seem to imply yes, but cameos by the actors playing different roles would seem to imply no.

The international trailer seems to confirm a bunch of stuff in that reddit post. Welp.

From the leaked sources all of the cameos from the original cast are different characters, Murray's cameo character even dies.

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Reply #244 on: May 17, 2016, 12:47:37 PM

The "I refuse to watch" review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz8X2A7wHyQ&feature=youtu.be

No idea if this guy is a relevant YouTuber or not, he makes a better argument against the movie than 99% of the yelling internet idiots, though.

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