jgsugden
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And you didn't mention Power Pack?
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sickrubik
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Or it's just a jokey post like many on craigslist
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beer geek.
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I'm looking forward to the next reboot where Ben Grimm and Johny Storm are a couple.
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Over and out.
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I just can't get myself to care about this movie. I don't hate the Fanastic Four but the direction the whole thing took is a put off to me.
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Slightly less meh for me. I think maybe the whole dimensional-travel as replacement for space-travel is going to be just fine. I'm even getting a good sense that the FF are still about mystery, and that their personalities are actually starting to feel right.
Doom is the thing that either has to work or if not, sink the whole film.
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These FF movies are just non-starters because they continually make terrible casting choices. Evans and Chiklis were the only two good choices the first time around. This time maybe Sue looks ok but the rest of that cast looks terrible. Especially bad is college freshman Reed Richards. Turning Richards into Peter Parker really wasn't the way to go.
And when are these Fox producers going to understand that Doom is a man in metal armor, not a dude that turns into metal. The one glimpse of Doom in this trailer certainly didn't inspire any confidence they got it right this time, either.
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Over and out.
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Yeah, I'm not really feeling this one. That's not to say I won't go see it, but I'm not getting the awesome vibes that I get from other actual Marvel properties. The Sue Storm/Johnny Storm casting I had a problem with at first, but they seem fine to me. They seem to be leaning HEAVILY on the Utlimate universe version of Reed Richards though, and I'm not sure that's a good thing.
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God, I don't think so, unless they're going to turn him into a mega-villain. The Ultimate Reed is a very bad guy.
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Really ? I stopped reading it after the first couple of books and they turned Doom into a Demon.
What's Reed done ?
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jgsugden
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Do this as the Ultimate Reed and then when the X-men and FF finally fold into MCU in 10 years, let this Reed cross over as bad guy Reed (sort of like the 'real comics' is going to do).
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Do this as the Ultimate Reed and then when the X-men and FF finally fold into MCU in 10 years, let this Reed cross over as bad guy Reed (sort of like the 'real comics' is going to do).
Pretty sure if Marvel gets any of their stuff back it's going to be rebootville. Just like with Spidey.
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Khaldun
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Ultimate Reed was eventually the major villain of the entire Ultimate universe, pretty much. Long after that whole thing became totally fuckstupid.
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jgsugden
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Ultimate Reed was eventually the major villain of the entire Ultimate universe, pretty much. Long after that whole thing became totally fuckstupid.
so, long after Ultimate Spidey's 1?
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Khaldun
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Ultimate Spider-Man was actually pretty good, I thought.
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HaemishM
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Ultimate Reed was eventually the major villain of the entire Ultimate universe, pretty much. Long after that whole thing became totally fuckstupid.
He's certainly helping the New Avengers become total bad guys in that New Avengers book (granted I'm about 13 issues from the current one so this may have changed).
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I really liked all the initial Ultimate Universe stuff they did. I cannot fathom why they decided to destroy it all so thoroughly.
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Khaldun
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I'm assuming you didn't read the Jeph Loeb one where the Blob ripped open the Wasp's chest and ate her and then Giant-Man bit off the Blob's head in retaliation.
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Ironwood
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I take it that was zombies ?
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Nope. Just one of their silly world events. They killed off several big characters in that one, if I remember correctly.
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Ironwood
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Then I refer you to the  the learned gentleman gave some time ago.
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Evildrider
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"Reed Richards is a scientific prodigy who has been quietly exploring the universe's deepest mysteries in his garage, after school. After being transformed by one of his experiments, he can warp the space around him, and appear to stretch his body into impossible forms and to incredible lengths."
I don't even know why they would think this change is a good idea. This seems like another "just cause" reason to change a character.
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jgsugden
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It is just an explanation that seems more 'grounded' than a man stretching. Instead of bending himself, he bends space around himself. It looks the same to third parties...
Much ado about nothing.
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I mean, it doesn't matter really because in the movie it will be, at most, a throwaway line of dialog about his powers. But on the other hand it's just another bit of evidence that they are taking a really simple, fun, comic and just trying too hard with it. But that was obvious from the grimdark teaser we all saw already anyway.
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To be honest the only thing interesting about fantastic four guys like doctor doom, galactus, silver surfer, maybe some other major supervillian.But as a group...they suck. They've been rotting in a cave of irrelevance since the 90s cartoon, that no one remembers.... Sure we can say "oh but the incredibles were totally fantastic four done right." But that's nostalgia talking. The FF4 never been that awesome. Ben Grimm is the only personality worth talking about needing to be on screen. The rest? Err....
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To be honest the only thing interesting about fantastic four guys like doctor doom, galactus, silver surfer, maybe some other major supervillian.But as a group...they suck. They've been rotting in a cave of irrelevance since the 90s cartoon, that no one remembers.... Sure we can say "oh but the incredibles were totally fantastic four done right." But that's nostalgia talking. The FF4 never been that awesome. Ben Grimm is the only personality worth talking about needing to be on screen. The rest? Err....
Oh man, a Hulk/Thing team up action comedy would be awesome. 
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jgsugden
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Lest my earlier comment be mistaken - I have no confidence in this film based upon the totality of circumstances. This explanation of Reed's powers, however, is just people piling on.
If/when this movie fails, what is the over/under in how long before there is an official announcement from Marvel and Fox that the FF are coming home....
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To be honest the only thing interesting about fantastic four guys like doctor doom, galactus, silver surfer, maybe some other major supervillian.But as a group...they suck. They've been rotting in a cave of irrelevance since the 90s cartoon, that no one remembers.... Sure we can say "oh but the incredibles were totally fantastic four done right." But that's nostalgia talking. The FF4 never been that awesome. Ben Grimm is the only personality worth talking about needing to be on screen. The rest? Err....
Oh man, a Hulk/Thing team up action comedy would be awesome.  "Pretend it's an egg. Pretend Everything is an Egg."
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I'm assuming you didn't read the Jeph Loeb one where the Blob ripped open the Wasp's chest and ate her and then Giant-Man bit off the Blob's head in retaliation.
That event (Ultimatum) is what I was referring to when I said they decided to fuck it all up. Everything started going downhill across the books after the second ultimates run (and the third one was terrible).
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FF4 90210!
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Nevermore
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And when are these Fox producers going to understand that Doom is a man in metal armor, not a dude that turns into metal. The one glimpse of Doom in this trailer certainly didn't inspire any confidence they got it right this time, either.
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Over and out.
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