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Reply #35 on: August 12, 2014, 01:20:45 AM

Horrid news.

Schild, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and it's this view of mental illness that stops people speaking out about it.  The fucking Depression thread over yonder and the amount of people HERE that YOU KNOW chiming in should suggest your comments are well, well out of place and fairly fucking offensive.

Just Saying.


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Reply #36 on: August 12, 2014, 01:43:09 AM

This news saddened me.

Hey look, schild is being a fuckwit again. It seems to be getting worse, too.
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Reply #37 on: August 12, 2014, 02:39:22 AM

Let's not make this thread about Schild.

This news really gutpunched me. More even than Rik, earlier this year. And I don't even like many of Williams' movies.

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Reply #38 on: August 12, 2014, 02:53:47 AM

This news really gutpunched me. More even than Rik, earlier this year. And I don't even like many of Williams' movies.

Yeah, this. I don't really care much about celebrity death notices, but this one brought my day down a notch - just because I do like a lot of his work.

At least we've still got Bill Murray.
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Reply #39 on: August 12, 2014, 02:55:14 AM

But not Harold Ramis.   Heartbreak

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Reply #40 on: August 12, 2014, 04:25:46 AM

damnit  sad

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Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 04:41:28 AM

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Reply #42 on: August 12, 2014, 05:29:14 AM

This saddens me, even though I was never really a fan of his. Suicide (if that is what happened) is always a terrible thing, but it's also a complicated thing and none of us can ever know what's really gone on inside the mind of someone who takes that route.

I think suicide is always a waste, but when it's someone very talented and loved by millions then it's a very public waste.

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Reply #43 on: August 12, 2014, 06:06:45 AM

This has absolutely crushed the girl and I. We were both big fans of his, and we've both suffered from depression to varying degrees over the years (including a nearly successful suicide attempt by her this year), so this just hits home in the worst possible way.

I barely held it together at work overnight, but I wept like a child on the drive home.
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Reply #44 on: August 12, 2014, 06:18:07 AM

Really sad. There's a 2010 piece in the Guardian that's been going around where he talked about why he started drinking again when he was filming in Alaska (and then stopped after three years) and you get this intense sense from it that this was someone who had been burning like a torch for so much of his life and now didn't know what to do when he was left with his sadder, more tired, more fearful self in his own head, when he had silent times. Bipolar isn't just the ups-and-downs of a day or week, I think in his case it was also the grand arc of his life, with no manic upswing yet to come.
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Reply #45 on: August 12, 2014, 06:32:41 AM

 Heartbreak

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Reply #46 on: August 12, 2014, 06:46:59 AM

The problem as I've seen is looking too far ahead. There's a reason people say to take it one day at a time, because thinking about the rest of your life feeling like you do at that moment feeds into questions of why you should even bother.

You have to beat that day. You have to make it from one end to the other without giving into the crap that keeps you in the house driving yourself nuts with the running thoughts of you own mind. You have to ask for help, and you have to realize that it's not always going to be like this. There are changes for the better you can't see immediately. There are things that will enrich your life if you let people in. There are reasons to continue on if not just for yourself then for those that need you and love you.

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Reply #47 on: August 12, 2014, 06:50:10 AM

Carpe diem, boys.


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Reply #48 on: August 12, 2014, 07:09:57 AM

His loss is extremely sad. I also feel sad for his kids. His last instagram post was 2 weeks ago and was for his daughter's birthday. I read an article on Cracked.com of all places that talks about how comedy comes from a dark, lonely place and it made a lot of sense honestly.

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/robin-williams-why-funny-people-kill-themselves/

Honestly, I keep thinking about how people my mother's age talk about "the day the music died". For me, Monday felt like the day that laughter died. I know in the last few years it felt like he'd been coasting a bit and reusing the same gags but good god, he'd been doing it since the 70s, if he wanted to coast a bit, I think he was due.

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Reply #49 on: August 12, 2014, 07:28:06 AM

That article by David Wong is really really good at explaining the mentality behind the comedy depression.

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Reply #50 on: August 12, 2014, 07:44:18 AM

My dad likes to tell the story about how I watched Mork and Mindy all the time as a kid.  I guess I liked Mork so much that I talked my dad into letting me watch an HBO Robin Williams standup, because it was Mork! 

He said we watched 30 seconds, three fucks and a vagina before he turned it off. 
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Reply #51 on: August 12, 2014, 08:05:17 AM

Coverage staying classy:

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Reply #52 on: August 12, 2014, 08:14:03 AM

I'm not sure what is worse.  The press for doing that shit or the viewers for watching that shit. 

Fuck I hate people sometimes.

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Reply #53 on: August 12, 2014, 08:55:39 AM

Suicide is a great way to take all the sadness and unhappiness out of what is one of the greatest losses in Hollywood this year, and possibly this decade.

Fake Edit: I'm not saying this makes it the opposite of sad and unhappy, I'm just saying I feel nothing because I don't feel for the suicidal.
So in your world depression is a choice and not an illness?
No, getting proper help is a choice.

You'll have to excuse Schild, he's from Texas.

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Reply #54 on: August 12, 2014, 09:14:22 AM

The TV press are generally totally soulless fuckwits (moreso than marketing people) and celebrity press are the worst of the worst. Parasitic corpse humpers the lot of them.

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Reply #55 on: August 12, 2014, 09:35:42 AM

Like a bunch of you, this death got to me more than most celebrity deaths, more than any I can ever think of in my life really. This was a guy who made some of my most cherished childhood films, a genuinely funny and inspirational guy. This guy on reddit is summing up all the responses from other comedians and actors, I think the volume and tone of the comments is remarkable.

His Reddit AMA from 10 months back shows what a kind and funny guy he was too. What a sad loss.

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Reply #56 on: August 12, 2014, 10:03:25 AM

Suicide is a great way to take all the sadness and unhappiness out of what is one of the greatest losses in Hollywood this year, and possibly this decade.

Fake Edit: I'm not saying this makes it the opposite of sad and unhappy, I'm just saying I feel nothing because I don't feel for the suicidal.

Go fuck yourself and die you piece of shit.
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Reply #57 on: August 12, 2014, 10:09:30 AM


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Reply #58 on: August 12, 2014, 10:23:02 AM

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Reply #59 on: August 12, 2014, 10:24:21 AM

Suicide is a great way to take all the sadness and unhappiness out of what is one of the greatest losses in Hollywood this year, and possibly this decade.

Fake Edit: I'm not saying this makes it the opposite of sad and unhappy, I'm just saying I feel nothing because I don't feel for the suicidal.
Go fuck yourself and die you piece of shit.
Way to be, random internet dude.
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Reply #60 on: August 12, 2014, 10:48:49 AM

Oddly enough, someone made that same toast at Schild's wedding.
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Reply #61 on: August 12, 2014, 10:51:21 AM

Oddly enough, someone made that same toast at Schild's wedding.
Is it normal for the bride to make toasts?

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Reply #62 on: August 12, 2014, 11:00:25 AM

Oddly enough, someone made that same toast at Schild's wedding.
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Reply #63 on: August 12, 2014, 11:12:18 AM

schild's idea of just "getting the proper help" when you're suicidally depressed was pretty special.
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Reply #64 on: August 12, 2014, 11:22:03 AM

Yes, if only the multimillionaire with a long history of being in and out of therapy, an AA membership going back decades, and a recent spell in rehab had just been able to get help he'd still be alive.

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Reply #65 on: August 12, 2014, 11:24:20 AM

You're all missing the point.  Something, something, Darwin.

Joking aside, we should have a little :darwin: graphic for when it's actually appropriate.
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Reply #66 on: August 12, 2014, 12:05:31 PM

I don't think ill of Schild for his views on suicide. Our life experiences drive who we are. It is far better to appreciate our differences of opinion and show empathy for the processes that forge each other than to hate those differences.

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Reply #67 on: August 12, 2014, 12:19:41 PM

Suicide is a great way to take all the sadness and unhappiness out of what is one of the greatest losses in Hollywood this year, and possibly this decade.

Fake Edit: I'm not saying this makes it the opposite of sad and unhappy, I'm just saying I feel nothing because I don't feel for the suicidal.
So in your world depression is a choice and not an illness?
No, getting proper help is a choice.

You'll have to excuse Schild, he's from Texas.

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Reply #68 on: August 12, 2014, 12:30:13 PM

I don't think ill of Schild for his views on suicide. Our life experiences drive who we are. It is far better to appreciate our differences of opinion and show empathy for the processes that forge each other than to hate those differences.

I think ill of him for shitting them here in someone's RIP thread, but whatever. I'm glad I have all the memories of Robin's stuff growing up. His movies were a large part of my life experiences.

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Reply #69 on: August 12, 2014, 12:50:57 PM

I don't think ill of Schild for his views on suicide. Our life experiences drive who we are. It is far better to appreciate our differences of opinion and show empathy for the processes that forge each other than to hate those differences.

Keep that in mind the next climate change, gun control or evolution debate you get in to. It's just a difference of opinion, right?

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