H1Z1 (Zombieapocalypse: SOE edition?)

[Malakili]

So, pretty close to Project Zomboid, then.

[Kageru]

yep, though I didn't realise it supported MP and don't know if the private servers can implement a "win" condition. It's on my list of games to play and seems to be growing.

Though the graphics / view are always going to make it more niche than the audience H1Z1 is aiming at.

[Malakili]

There is no win condition.  You always die eventually.  How like life.

[Kageru]

That works too I guess... and is a very "apocalypse" ending.  As long as you can't just rejoin the MP world with a new character.

Though I would think having a variety of per-game win conditions would make the game-play more complex and the game more re-playable.

[Malakili]

I'm not sure how it works to be honest. I know there are a variety of rulesets, but I have only played multiplayer a few times to check it out and have spent most of my time just playing single player.

[Senses]

This is funny because having never seen the game, and just reading the last 2 pages of commentary, I would have assumed that you we're talking about Rust.  And no thanks, I already paid my 20 bucks 2 years ago for that.

[Falconeer]

1 million copies sold. Weird.

https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/580161545021186048

[Bzalthek]

1 million weird fucking people.  Of which I am a member.  I'm a sucker.

[Cyrrex]

I'm one of those million.  I can't imagine there are too many people actually playing it much in its current state.  It is the kind of thing I will go in and check out every once in a while to see if it is getting any better.

[Falconeer]

Right, I forgot to mention I am part of that million too. But I am into zombies (a lot) and open PvP and full loot games. It's just, last time I checked, no one wants these kind of games, only wolves. Right?

But yeah, snark aside, considering how much of an unfleshed clone H1Z1 is at the moment, I am really surprised of 1 million sales in less than two months.

[Ginaz]

Right, I forgot to mention I am part of that million too. But I am into zombies (a lot) and open PvP and full loot games. It's just, last time I checked, no one wants these kind of games, only wolves. Right?

But yeah, snark aside, considering how much of an unfleshed clone H1Z1 is at the moment, I am really surprised of 1 million sales in less than two months.

There's pve servers with no pvp or player corpse looting.

[Cyrrex]

I think we've gone over this before, but the problem with the pve servers is that there is little or no danger, unless you go looking for it.  It becomes Berry Picking Simulator 2015.  And then you log onto a pvp server and within 20 seconds some guy starts garbling (all the in game talk is garble nonsense overy my speakers) at you, and then you start playing Mike Tyson's Punchout! until one of you dies.  Rinse and repeat.

They need a middle ground.

[Bzalthek]

I was told zombies would be a constant threat.  Eventually, maybe.

[Cyrrex]

Well, constant in that you go after themselves out of boredom, and then you die because of crummy hit detection.

[Bzalthek]

Ah well, I got over 64 hours of enjoyment playing with friends, so it wasn't a total loss.

[Gets]

Battle Royal is fun in a group and alright solo, but the game is still rough around the edges, and the MMO factor enters even less into play because of it. Unfortunately the gunplay is pretty bad, worse than Planetside 2, which I didn't mind as much as H1Z1's anemic jerkiness. Doing the mouse input tweaks in UserOptions seemed to help a bit.

For some reason, when the match is around 10 dudes left and the gas is close, my framerate drops from 80 to 25 (it feels worse though thanks to the above-mentioned jerkiness), frametimes go up to a 100ms and GPU usage starts bouncing between the floor and the ceiling. I can't figure out what's causing the bottleneck.

I'd like to hop into the original Arma III: Battle Royal as a team and see which one is better, since Arma sure as hell beats H1Z1 by miles with polish, performance and feature sets, yet H1 has it's own charm I suppose.

[Margalis]

For some reason, when the match is around 10 dudes left and the gas is close, my framerate drops from 80 to 25 (it feels worse though thanks to the above-mentioned jerkiness), frametimes go up to a 100ms and GPU usage starts bouncing between the floor and the ceiling. I can't figure out what's causing the bottleneck.

Alpha overdraw on the gas itself probably.

[Falconeer]

This is fucking ridiculous!

Stealing a page from the new Bible for Scammy Success in gaming by Chris & Roberts in no time, H1Z1 splits into two games with two separate development teams.

https://www.h1z1.com/news/just-survive-king-of-the-kill-game-split-february-2016?cid=1066645

we’re excited to announce that the survival game will now be called H1Z1: Just Survive, with a renewed focus on truly delivering a persistent, open-world zombie survival experience where scavenging, crafting, and base building are the difference between life and death.

We’re also excited to announce that the fast-paced shooter comprised of multiple, fight-to-the-death game modes, including Battle Royale, will be called H1Z1: King of the Kill (KotK).

Also, best acronym ever, H1Z1:KOTK.

What the fuck 

[HaemishM]

One must find a way to re-monetize the already monetized customers.

[Gimfain]

This is fucking ridiculous!

Stealing a page from the new Bible for Scammy Success in gaming by Chris & Roberts in no time, H1Z1 splits into two games with two separate development teams.

https://www.h1z1.com/news/just-survive-king-of-the-kill-game-split-february-2016?cid=1066645

we’re excited to announce that the survival game will now be called H1Z1: Just Survive, with a renewed focus on truly delivering a persistent, open-world zombie survival experience where scavenging, crafting, and base building are the difference between life and death.

We’re also excited to announce that the fast-paced shooter comprised of multiple, fight-to-the-death game modes, including Battle Royale, will be called H1Z1: King of the Kill (KotK).

Also, best acronym ever, H1Z1:KOTK.

What the fuck 

Landmark and everquest next came first.

[Malakili]

One must find a way to re-monetize the already monetized customers.

 

[Cyrrex]

If I have the original game now, would I have to buy the second one now?  In theory, I mean...no way I would drop any more money on this one.

[Kail]

If I have the original game now, would I have to buy the second one now?  In theory, I mean...no way I would drop any more money on this one.

No, the devs are giving both to anyone who buys the game before the 16th.

Though the previous devs said the release would be f2p so who knows what their long term monetization plans look like.

[Malakili]

The hopeful side of me wants this to mean that the survival part of the game will actually get more updates.  The cynical side of mean thinks this is a ploy to be able to justify closing down survival altogether after it becomes established that Battle Royale is the money maker.

[Malakili]

The split got me to boot this game up for the first time in six months.  Logged in, ran around for 10 minutes in a survival server, found most of the place totally looted and then got help up at gun point. 

Oh well.

[Ginaz]

The split got me to boot this game up for the first time in six months.  Logged in, ran around for 10 minutes in a survival server, found most of the place totally looted and then got help up at gun point. 

Oh well.

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[Malakili]

Yeah, it's a shame really. I'm a sucker for this kind of game, and I did get my 20 bucks worth for sure, but the game has barely progressed in over a year's worth of development. The zombies are a total non-factor, base building is buggy and ultimately pointless, survival is trivial and who cares if you die anyway, etc.

I guess battle royale mode ("King of the Kill") is kind of fun, but it's not really what I'm personally looking for in this kind of game.