NFL 2014

[Paelos]

Now I'm hearing that the Falcons and Broncos both have interest in Dan Quinn. Gee I wonder who would win that battle? The team with the GM who is willing to do whatever it takes, or the GM cadre of idiots with the owner that requires weekly meetings with the head coach?

Oh and you likely get to draft a QB soon.

[HaemishM]

I don't see Arizona as a place Peyton would go, mainly because their running game is pretty shitty. Even if Palmer's knee hadn't fallen off due to gravity, I'm not sure how far that team goes in the playoffs. Larry Fitzgerald ain't young anymore and the other guys, while good, aren't experienced.

I think if Brady, Rodgers or Russell Wilson wins the Super Bowl, Peyton doesn't retire for sure. Hell, I don't think he retires at all.

[Trippy]

He should've gone to the Niners originally but that era has passed.

[WayAbvPar]

Larry Fitzgerald won't be in AZ either. Hoping he comes north.

[HaemishM]

Larry Fitzgerald won't be in AZ either. Hoping he comes north.

Didn't having Percy Harvin fulfill Seattle's quotient for broke-down receivers that crumble before our very eyes?

[WayAbvPar]

Unlike Percy Harvin, LF is not a complete shithead. He is also older and might take a shorter deal. He might even take under market value if it meant playing for a contender.

[Paelos]

Unlike Percy Harvin, LF is not a complete shithead. He is also older and might take a shorter deal. He might even take under market value if it meant playing for a contender.

Fitzgerald's 31, not 35. WR's break down after that age, so he's got at least 3-4 good years left. I seriously doubt he'd take a discount, as most of these don't. It's a bidness.

[sickrubik]

Jack Del Rio to the raiders, as assumed.

[Paelos]

I like him. So I'm sorry he's taking that job.

[WayAbvPar]

Jack Del Rio to the raiders, as assumed.

 

The Raiders just can't keep their feet off of their dicks. Del Rio is a good coordinator, but I am not overly impressed with his HC abilities.

[sickrubik]

SWERVE

49ers set to promote DL coach Jim Tomsula to head coach, per sources. Still ironing out details, but Tomsula expected to be 49ers next HC.

[HaemishM]

The defensive LINE coach? Not even the coordinator? ... the fuck?

Del Rio didn't do too bad in Jacksonville, considering the paucity of options he had to work with. I mean, his QB were Byron Leftwich, David Garrard and Mark Brunell on the downslide. Yet he still got them to the playoffs a number of seasons mostly on defensive capabilities. Of course, he's going to have the problem of working with the Raiders brain trust so chances are he'll have even less to work with in Oakland.

[shiznitz]

I like the move. Take a chance on a new guy instead of recycling the same half dozen or so around and around and around the league.

[Cyrrex]

As a Seattle fan, I'd like to thank the 49ers organization for hiring...wait, who was it again?

I kinda like Del Rio to Oakland, but to be honest, Tony Sparano had those guys punching a bit above their weight class.  I think I would have wanted to see what he could do with a full season.

[Paelos]

Is the new SF coach going to solve the fact that they hitched their wagon to an overrated QB that can't make throws? Because miracles!

[sickrubik]

NFL exec source says John Fox is getting the Bears job.

[Paelos]

Good luck.

[HaemishM]

John Fox will at least make that defense better. Don't know what he can do with Cutler, but I'm not sure what anyone can do with Cutler.

[Paelos]

As an experienced head coach, I wouldn't want my move from an established team to be to a rebuild with a rookie GM. That's a huge gamble. Fox could get a better job if he was willing to look around.

[shiznitz]

Fox had his chance at a SB win last year and blew it.  I am sure it is just about the coin now.  He will never be a SB winning coach now.

[Paelos]

Fox had his chance at a SB win last year and blew it.  I am sure it is just about the coin now.  He will never be a SB winning coach now.

Not in Chicago. If he'd taken the Atlanta job, I think they have the QB settled and the offense mostly in place. He'd have to draft a defense, which if you can believe he will fix Chicago he certainly could fix Atlanta, AND he'd have more weapons.

[HaemishM]

I'm not sure I agree with you about the Atlanta job. I think Chicago has more offensive weapons: Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett and Forte. Atlanta has... Julio Jones. Ryan's a better QB than Cutler, but he really has shit to throw to and no running game to speak of, plus on O line that is horribad.

[Paelos]

I'm not sure I agree with you about the Atlanta job. I think Chicago has more offensive weapons: Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett and Forte. Atlanta has... Julio Jones. Ryan's a better QB than Cutler, but he really has shit to throw to and no running game to speak of, plus on O line that is horribad.

Agreed on running game, agreed on line. Roddy White is still a good receiver, and so is Harry Douglas. Ryan is head and shoulders better than Cutler in terms of the mental game, and as a leader. Plus Ryan's organization likes him. Besides, QB in the NFL is like 75% of getting it right. And I think the offensive line will improve with health and Jake Matthews getting an offseason at his natural position.

But all things being equal, I'd go to the organization that has the QB settled. That gets coaches fired faster than anything.

[HaemishM]

John Fox turned Jake Delhomme into a fucking Super Bowl QB. JAKE DELHOMME.

[Paelos]

John Fox turned Jake Delhomme into a fucking Super Bowl QB. JAKE DELHOMME.

He was 15th in passer rating. Dead average. They had a top 10 defense, a top 10 running game, a top 5 kicker, and great talent on the lines.

Delhomme had an outlier run in the post-season much like Eli Manning in 2011. It happens. I don't think it's coaching, I think it's frankly luck and matchups.

I think Cutler is fine, but I don't think Fox is going to be waving any magic wands in Chicago. I think they are doomed for at least 3 years.

[HaemishM]

That's kind of my point though. Delhomme at his BEST was average, and Fox coached a team around him that made it to the Super Bowl on running game, O line and defense. Cutler is a better QB than Delhomme, IMO, i.e. he's better than average most of the time. Chicago already has a good running game with Forte, they have great wideouts, and decent tight end. Fox gets in there and fixes the defense and this team could be better than that Carolina team (and that Carolina team was pretty good). Fox found a way that Delhomme's averageness (and sometimes erraticness) didn't kill that team.

[Trippy]

Fox got the Broncos to the playoffs with Tebow. TEBOW.

[Paelos]

Fox got the Broncos to the playoffs with Tebow. TEBOW.

He did, yes. Which sort of underscores my point. He can absolutely fix the things that are wrong with the Falcons, namely running game and defense. They have a good QB too already. He can make teams with bad QBs better. He can make a team with a possibly great QB a Super Bowl contender.

I think the bigger issue of Cutler is that he hates his organization now. They've done nothing but try to fuck him over from a PR standpoint. He's not a likeable guy, but that's a toxic situation at best.

[K9]

Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that the season before this the Bears had the #2 offense in the league, only just behind Peyton in all of his record-setting glory. The biggest issue this year was that Cutler had to play from behind pretty much constantly and spent far too much time on the field because the defence was utter shite. Although there has been some movement, some aging, some change since then, the core of that offense is still there and full of potential.

If John Fox can get the defence to not suck so much Chicago should see corresponding improvement on the other side of the ball just through sheer weight of talent.

[Chimpy]

So when Rodgers threw that pick, I thought "this is going to get ugly."

I was not expecting it to be ugly in this fashion 😳

[Paelos]

It's raining dumbass QB play in Seattle.

[K9]

You guys, what is going on?

[sickrubik]

YOU GET A PICK AND YOU GET A PICK AND YOU GET A PICK. /oprahball

[Nevermore]

Rogers doesn't look that bad because at least he's moving the ball.  Wilson is playing like dogshit.

[Chimpy]

The fact that the Green Bay defense has not had to be on the field pretty much at all is a bad sign for Seattle because in the gsnes I have seen this season, the Packers defense usually plays pretty good for a bit more than half the game and then they start to look like Swiss cheese as they get tired. I'm not sure they have even broken a sweat yet.