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01101010
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How can the NFL suspend him if the victim is pulling complaints? I believe she's unwilling to let the case move forward, which means all they have is a video.
He's a dirtbag, and if that video of him actually hitting her ever sees the light of day, he's getting suspended. I doubt the lawyers will ever let that happen.
The law doesn't matter. The NFL can suspend or fine any player for violating the league's personal-conduct policy. Did that with Rapistberger... can't see why they can't here. Here, we can go to the video evidence, regardless of legal proceedings.
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HaemishM
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Also, the prosecutor still indicting Ray Rice even though the fiancee doesn't want to go forth with the legal action. So yes, the league absolutely should be ON HIS ASS.
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jgsugden
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It comes down to burden of proof. US criminal law (usually) requires you to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors will often not proceed with a case against someone that clearly did it, but where there is some flimsy theoretical excuse that cannot be disproved. The NFL, however, can punish someone when they decide they're pretty darn sure enough they know what went down... even if there is some odd-ball yet reasonable explanation out there that theoretically could explain the situation away. That is the burden of proof negotiated into their agreements between players and management.
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Nevermore
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The Ravens stand by the guy that knocks his fiancee unconscious while the Eagles cut DeSean Jackson, supposedly because he's been associating with a gang member who's accused of murder.
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Over and out.
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Paelos
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The law doesn't matter. The NFL can suspend or fine any player for violating the league's personal-conduct policy. Did that with Rapistberger... can't see why they can't here. Here, we can go to the video evidence, regardless of legal proceedings.
I'm aware of the personal conduct suspensions. My point is that unless they have more than the video of him dealing with her knocked out, it's barely enough to even warrant that since she's not filing a charge. In the Rapistburger case, charges were filed, police statements were taken, and there was evidence tampering galore. It was eventually settled later. Point of fact, I think he's a complete shithead who should be lambasted if he hit her. I'm also shocked she's staying with him if the assault took place that knocked her unconcious. I just wonder what really happened.
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Trippy
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And Rhianna stayed with Chris Brown for a while after he beat her black and blue. It happens.
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Ingmar
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The Ravens stand by the guy that knocks his fiancee unconscious while the Eagles cut DeSean Jackson, supposedly because he's been associating with a gang member who's accused of murder.
And somehow Riley Cooper is still on the team. 49ers were allegedly looking at trading for Jackson before this happened, but it's anybody's guess if they still see this as a fixable problem or not.
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HaemishM
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I think the Jets were talking about trading for DeSean Jackson too. Guess they didn't want to give up a pick for a guy they might be able to get anyway or they thought the off-field stuff was going to get worse.
Either way, that's one helluva talent out there as a free agent.
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Everyone is terrified that DeSean Jackson will be the next Aaron Hernandez. Or maybe Sean Taylor. Or even Darrent Williams.
If you live in that world, the odds that something will prevent you from fulfilling your end of an NFL contract probably skyrocket. Someone might take a flyer on him, but it will be cheap. I just hope Pete Carroll doesn't think he can rehab him. I don't want that asshole here.
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Paelos
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Everyone is terrified that DeSean Jackson will be the next Aaron Hernandez. Or maybe Sean Taylor. Or even Darrent Williams.
If you live in that world, the odds that something will prevent you from fulfilling your end of an NFL contract probably skyrocket. Someone might take a flyer on him, but it will be cheap. I just hope Pete Carroll doesn't think he can rehab him. I don't want that asshole here.
Or Mike Vick, or Nate Newton, or Rae Carruth, or the other idiots that surrounded themselves with shitheads before they pulled a stint in the joint. There's very solid precedent on why NFL clubs should be extremely interested in who their players associate with.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Everyone is terrified that DeSean Jackson will be the next Aaron Hernandez. Or maybe Sean Taylor. Or even Darrent Williams.
If you live in that world, the odds that something will prevent you from fulfilling your end of an NFL contract probably skyrocket. Someone might take a flyer on him, but it will be cheap. I just hope Pete Carroll doesn't think he can rehab him. I don't want that asshole here.
New England should take a look. Yeah, Hernandez was a black mark, but they have done well with other twisted seeds.
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shiznitz
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Everyone is terrified that DeSean Jackson will be the next Aaron Hernandez. Or maybe Sean Taylor. Or even Darrent Williams.
If you live in that world, the odds that something will prevent you from fulfilling your end of an NFL contract probably skyrocket. Someone might take a flyer on him, but it will be cheap. I just hope Pete Carroll doesn't think he can rehab him. I don't want that asshole here.
I don't understand this. It is certainly easy to put language in a contract that protects the team from having to pay money to a potential criminal. Still, if a team decides they just don't want the drama, then good for them. I just hope DeSean stays out of the NFC East.
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I don't want to root for him. I don't want his particular brand of asshattery distracting from the team. I don't want his inevitable arrest or murder blowing a big hole in the WR position midseason. Too many negatives for what he brings. Do not want.
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Paelos
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Put him on the Cowboys. Maybe he'll off Jerry in a fit of rage.
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HaemishM
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Too bad the Cowboys have like no cap space. 
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Paelos
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DeSean could have his boys bust a cap in our cap space problem.
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Cyrrex
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Looks like he signed a 3 year deal with the Redskins. I'm a little surprised he didn't try to whore himself out for single year with a contender - maybe there really was no market for him for those teams. Oh well, I'm personally glad to see him stay in the NFC East, and the Skins in particular, so as to pose a threat to nobody. Except perhaps his girlfriend.
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Paelos
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Dan Snyder deserves DeSean.
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I don't want to deal with this shit in my city, dammit.
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Paelos
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shiznitz
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I just hope DeSean stays out of the NFC East.
Well fuck me... As to his contract, $16MM guaranteed is a nice payday.
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MrHat
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the Skins in particular, so as to pose a threat to nobody. Except perhaps his girlfriend.
That made me chuckle.
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Paelos
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Trippy
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It's okay we still have Blaine Gabbert 
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Suddenly, "Kaepernicking" is more and less hilarious all at once.
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Cyrrex
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The reported facts in the case are a bit strange. Oh well, and as much as I want the guy to fail as a football player (by virtue of him being a Niner plus possibly also being douche), I tend to be very skeptical of these sorts of cases. Not because I don't think they are not capable of it, but because I am also pretty certain there are plenty of people out there more than willing to lie and take advantage of them. Anyway, it is early. I don't even think the woman is yet claiming that she was sexually assaulted. It's okay we still have Blaine Gabbert  I have wanted to say this for a long, long time: It is not possible or reasonable to expect a guy with a name like Blaine Gabbert to become a successful professional football player. Successful at piloting a yacht? Check. Successful at having a trust fund? Check. Successful at blow drying his hair? CHECK.
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Rasix
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HaemishM
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Malakili
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That's a jailin'.
Actually, maybe he won't go to jail, but seriously, what the hell.
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He's reached the point where I don't see how they can keep him.
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Ghambit
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Maybe they can move Jonathan Martin to linebacker.
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K9
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Football season can't come soon enough.
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Paelos
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I hate that they moved the draft. It's stupid.
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Mithas
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It really is. I listen to a lot of local sports radio and the endless talk of the draft is driving me insane.
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