Frozen

[Simond]

By the way, it's now the biggest-grossing animated film of all time: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/03/30/frozen-highest-grossing-animated-film/

Disney’s animated megahit Frozen is officially the highest-grossing animated film of all time. After opening in Japan — its final market — this weekend, its total sales now reach $1.072 billion. The tally bumps the fairy tale over Disney/Pixar’s Toy Story 3, which held the top spot since 2010, when that film grossed $1.063 billion. It is the first billion-dollar title from Disney Animation studios; domestic receipts of $398.4 million and $674 million internationally earned Frozen that distinction. In 27 territories, it is now the No. 1 Disney or Pixar film, which helped buoy it into the Top 10 of all films globally at the box office.

So...Princess & the Frog, Tangled, Wreck-it Ralph and now Frozen. Third renaissance of Disney?

(Meanwhile Pixar put out a bunch of sequels and a mediocre copy of Brother Bear. Some rather pointed questions to be asked there, I feel).

[Trippy]

Pixar is effectively running Disney Animation now. That is why they are doing better. John Lasseter is Chief Creative Officer of both studios and Ed Catmull is President of both studios. Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, explicitly gave them the task of turning around Disney Animation Studios, which they have done.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, they pretty much gutted Pixar of the talent once they acquired it and it shows.

[Teleku]

I don't know, they've had a lot of good movies come out since they were aquired.  Granted, the last real good movie was Toy Story 3 in 2010, but I don't think the sky is falling just yet.

[Ironwood]

Like.....

[Soulflame]

They're working on Planes 2, and Cars 3.

Pixar is out of ideas.

[Ironwood]

Don't forget Finding Dory.

Because she will.

[Merusk]

Will what?

 

Pixar ran the gamut of their stored ideas and expanded one of them (Cars) into a new franchise.  They were a small, scrappy studio willing to take risks early on, but now that they have properties and are beholden to the Mouse and stockholders they're afraid of risk.  Just like the rest of Hollywood.

I wonder how many Hollywood vet execs are on staff making decisions now, since they're acting like every other studio. "Don't try that new idea. Here's one that made money 5, 10, 20 years ago. Remake/ sequel it.  It's a proven property."

[Ironwood]

To be honest, I'm not the guy to talk about this anyway;  perusing the Wiki, I realize I haven't liked anything Pixar has done since Wall-E.

So there's that.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I didn't like UP that much but it was very ambitious for what it was and I can respect that.

[Lantyssa]

UP would have been more enjoyable if it weren't for the end of the first act turning it into DOWN.  It still wasn't bad, when looking at the individual pieces, but it couldn't be enjoyable after that.

[Ingmar]

UP would have been more enjoyable if it weren't for the end of the first act turning it into DOWN.  It still wasn't bad, when looking at the individual pieces, but it couldn't be enjoyable after that.

You must hate Shakespeare.

[Ironwood]

That's not fair.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I think the beginning of UP was ballsy and I actually like that it existed but they probably could have paced it better, perhaps by introducing parts of Carl's backstory throughout the movie.  I like that Pixar was not afraid to get heavy like that and unfortunately they do seem to shy away from it lately.

[Shannow]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

[Shannow]

selffail.

[Trippy]

They're working on Planes 2, and Cars 3.

Pixar is out of ideas.

Planes is not a Pixar movie.

[Merusk]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

Money.  Lots of it.   The same reason Cars2 felt like it was rewritten to include Mater's story as the central part after he became so damn popular.

They're working on Planes 2, and Cars 3.

Pixar is out of ideas.

Planes is not a Pixar movie.

Cars 3 is in development. I assume that's what he meant.

[Trippy]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

The Incredibles 2 was also announced alongside Cars 3 which Soulflame conveniently left out.

[Velorath]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

Cars sold a shit ton of merchandise. That's why it gets sequels and spin-offs.

[WayAbvPar]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

Cars sold a shit ton of merchandise. That's why it gets sequels and spin-offs.

NASCAR fans are dumb. Water is wet. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

[Teleku]

Like.....

WALL-E, Up, and Toy Story 3 all came out after the acquisition.  All three of which I think are wonderful movies.  You may disagree with that, but you'd be wrong.   

Also, everybody here seems to be leaving out the fact that they're working on two original new films along with all those sequels.  The Good Dinosaur, and Inside out which seems like a pretty damned original and brave project.

Again, I'll give them a few more films before I start to panic.

[Merusk]

So Inside Out is Herman's Head with a 5 year old girl. Ok.

[Malakili]

Inside Out

Lewis Black as Anger

Ok, so I'm on board with this project.

[Lakov_Sanite]

The whole cast for that looks excellent.

[Soulflame]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

The Incredibles 2 was also announced alongside Cars 3 which Soulflame conveniently left out.

So, your assertion is that the announcement of Incredibles 2 invalidates my "Pixar is out of ideas" statement?

Fascinating.  I had no idea a sequel was proof of new ideas.

[Father mike]

Why the fuck does the weakest Pixar movie (Cars) get 2 fucking sequels. I will watch just about any Pixar film at any time but I will not even take in a minute of either of those piles of steaming dog crap.

Cars sold a shit ton of merchandise. That's why it gets sequels and spin-offs.

Its also incredibly poplar with 4-8 year old boys.  And parents are grateful to have something not-power rangers to drop in the DVD player.

[Lantyssa]

You must hate Shakespeare.

I did find it difficult to appreciate him during school because they picked his most boring plays and over-analyzed it to the point of ridiculousness.

But it's not that so much as they "killed off" the character I loved and left me with a bunch of ones I just didn't care about.  For me it would have been a much more poignant movie if they had more of their relationship and the very end of it was Walter doing his trip without the adventure.  They made me care too much about Ellie.  As two separate movies I think it could have worked either way.  Just not as they did it.

At least for me.

[angry.bob]

So Inside Out is Herman's Head with a 5 year old girl. Ok.

Eh, Cars was just Doc Hollywood with cars instead of people. If it works, don't fix it.

Also, Cars is popular with kids for a ton of reasons and none of it is because "nascar fans are dumb". As was pointed out you can go into any store in the US that has a toy department and it will have an isle of Cars merchandise that has been there and selling since the movie came out while most other movie related toy lines are in the markdown bin in less than a year.

[Lakov_Sanite]

You must hate Shakespeare.

I did find it difficult to appreciate him during school because they picked his most boring plays and over-analyzed it to the point of ridiculousness.

But it's not that so much as they "killed off" the character I loved and left me with a bunch of ones I just didn't care about.  For me it would have been a much more poignant movie if they had more of their relationship and the very end of it was Walter doing his trip without the adventure.  They made me care too much about Ellie.  As two separate movies I think it could have worked either way.  Just not as they did it.

At least for me.

If they had interspersed the flashbacks throughout the movie and made Ellie and by proxy the house a real character for the whole film it would have been much better and the sadness even more poignant.

[Lakov_Sanite]

The first cars had almost jack all to do with nascar, much the same way batman has to do with billionaire playboys.

[Lantyssa]

Yeah, that would have worked as well.

[Mazakiel]

How It Should Have Ended for Frozen:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ThvBNZdGcQ

It pretty much echoes a lot of what has been said in the thread, but I enjoyed it all the same. 

[Margalis]

Its also incredibly poplar with 4-8 year old boys.  And parents are grateful to have something not-power rangers to drop in the DVD player.

It may be Poplar with the young but what about with Alder kids?

Forgive me. 

These days Pixar is not really that operationally distinct from Disney. That's why it's a little funny for people to say "Planes isn't a Pixar movie." Pixar and Disney are basically merged at this point.

[Trippy]

These days Pixar is not really that operationally distinct from Disney. That's why it's a little funny for people to say "Planes isn't a Pixar movie." Pixar and Disney are basically merged at this point.

While that's true Planes was made by the studio that makes their direct-to-video animated movies, DisneyToon Studios. Not really in the same category as Pixar or Disney Animation Studios.