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on: December 23, 2013, 11:25:45 AM

Here comed another SF with Tom Cruise. SF "Groundhog Day"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLe_qO4AE-M
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Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 08:51:47 AM

Source Code at wartime.
Based on a japanese sci-fi novel called "All You Need is Kill."  The book won the japanese "nebula" and was adapted to Manga at one point.  Apparently there's been a LOT of action around it, trying to adapt it to screen; finally happened in 2011.

It shows promise, though a mistake choosing Cruise as I still believe these type of "thought experiment" sci-fi films need no-name actors, as going into the story unbiased is paramount.  Anyways, it's a japanese techno-military manga story told through a British lens, so that alone means it's a must-see as far as I'm concerned.  No one does sci-fi of that ilk better.
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Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 09:25:43 PM

I liked this better when it was Shadow 19.

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Reply #3 on: December 26, 2013, 12:33:05 PM

If they could refilm this movie with someone not named Tom Cruise, I might be able to give a shit.

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Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 12:23:29 PM

That looks good. Never heard of the source material, and it seems obscure enough the average viewer wouldn't either.
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Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 08:04:08 PM

Source Code at wartime.
Based on a japanese sci-fi novel called "All You Need is Kill."  The book won the japanese "nebula" and was adapted to Manga at one point.  Apparently there's been a LOT of action around it, trying to adapt it to screen; finally happened in 2011.

It shows promise, though a mistake choosing Cruise as I still believe these type of "thought experiment" sci-fi films need no-name actors, as going into the story unbiased is paramount.  Anyways, it's a japanese techno-military manga story told through a British lens, so that alone means it's a must-see as far as I'm concerned.  No one does sci-fi of that ilk better.

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Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 07:48:50 AM

Source Code at wartime.
Based on a japanese sci-fi novel called "All You Need is Kill."  The book won the japanese "nebula" and was adapted to Manga at one point.  Apparently there's been a LOT of action around it, trying to adapt it to screen; finally happened in 2011.

It shows promise, though a mistake choosing Cruise as I still believe these type of "thought experiment" sci-fi films need no-name actors, as going into the story unbiased is paramount.  Anyways, it's a japanese techno-military manga story told through a British lens, so that alone means it's a must-see as far as I'm concerned.  No one does sci-fi of that ilk better.

Battleship taught Hollywood you need big names for a big budget.

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Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 12:13:24 PM

This actually looks like it's going to be decent. I'm cautiously optimistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEx9WKHE5s


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Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 01:39:50 PM

I enjoy Tom Cruise in these types of roles. Oblivion was great if a bit sentimental. He has charisma like no other.

This detailed article the LA Weekly published recently on his background indicates that these type of action roles aren't what he wants, but what the audience wants of him.
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Reply #9 on: May 29, 2014, 07:15:43 AM

Emily Blunt with a bigass sword?  I'm in.

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Reply #10 on: May 29, 2014, 10:56:27 AM

They shoulda stuck with with bigass axe from the book for awesomeness awesome, for real

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Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 07:44:38 PM

Saw this tonight at an early screening.  Skip the 3D - it's distracting and obnoxious.  Otherwise, for a big special effects summer movie - it's definitely fun.

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Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 12:42:41 PM

Hearing good things about this movie from usually tough reviewers, and also that it's going to flop. Anyone else seen?

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Reply #13 on: June 07, 2014, 12:25:53 PM

I'd like to hear more 3d vs no 3d recommendations I'll probably see this next week(end).

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Reply #14 on: June 07, 2014, 02:22:09 PM

Went and saw last night. Enjoyable and rather humorous in parts. 8/10 .  Personally I never bother with 3D so couldn't tell you yay or nay on that. ( though overall I never notice the 3D in a film after 15 minutes so why bother paying extra)

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Reply #15 on: June 08, 2014, 02:09:14 PM

Saw it. Liked it.  2D was fine.

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Reply #16 on: June 08, 2014, 03:38:35 PM

There's something about Tom Cruise, I can't stand his public persona and his movies are usually Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise. Having said that, I enjoyed the part he played in the Last Samurai and I'm prepared to give it a look-see.

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Reply #17 on: June 08, 2014, 03:46:15 PM

Ya, I don't like him either. He is basically a simulacrum of a human being at this point, but I like original sci-fi which is becoming rarer at the movies these days.  He actually has a bit of character arc in this unlike many of his other roles of him just playing Tom Cruise.

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Reply #18 on: June 08, 2014, 05:26:23 PM

I really, really liked this up until the last 30 minutes or so when it just went a bit  swamp poop

Not a movie you need to see in 3D, but it is worth seeing.

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Reply #19 on: June 08, 2014, 06:38:20 PM

Enjoyed it. I especially liked the different choices Cage felt he had to make under different circumstances -- different dead ends that resulted in a character change and a new path.

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Reply #20 on: June 08, 2014, 08:41:42 PM

If it were anyone other than Tom Cruise, I'd go see it.  Did I already say that?

Worth saying again even if I have.
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Reply #21 on: June 09, 2014, 03:10:33 AM

If it were anyone other than Tom Cruise, I'd go see it.  Did I already say that?

Worth saying again even if I have.
In that case, just go so you can watch Tom Cruise get killed over and over again for the first half of the movie  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #22 on: June 09, 2014, 06:27:05 AM

If it were anyone other than Tom Cruise, I'd go see it.  Did I already say that?

Worth saying again even if I have.

Plus side if you don't like tom cruise this movie features him getting squashed in many many humerous ways so it is a bit cathartic even for people who hate him.
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Reply #23 on: June 09, 2014, 06:32:15 AM

It did terrible at the box office for an opening weekend.  Seems people are tired of Tom Cruise mugging it up in yet another action movie.  Only 29 mil opening, finishing behind a Rom-Com and Maleficent's 2nd week. Though it did do 111 mil overseas, so it'll be a success financially.

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Reply #24 on: June 09, 2014, 06:58:03 AM

Na, its the sci-fi causing the problem.  Audiences has trouble grokking any sci-fi concept more complex than evil alien invaders.
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Reply #25 on: June 09, 2014, 07:12:54 AM

Good movie.  Go see it.

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Reply #26 on: June 09, 2014, 08:41:11 AM

The only matinee showing at the time I could go was 3D, and I agree it adds nothing meaningful.  Don't spend the extra.

I was hoping for something closer to the novel, but I'm not surprised at the changes; the last portion of the book as written wouldn't play well with a typical American audience.  Not all changes are bad; it allows for a much easier-to-follow explanation of how to break the time loop.

My biggest gripe?  I don't think the movie succeeded at cranking Rita's badassery all the way to 11.  More wholesale alien melee-smashery, plz.
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Reply #27 on: June 09, 2014, 08:59:14 AM

Is the book worth reading?

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Reply #28 on: June 09, 2014, 09:46:58 AM

I enjoyed it, although it is fairly short for the cost ($7 or $8 on Kindle?)  As is typical for a lot of Asian literature & film, the ending is more tragic than the Hollywood version.  And the author seems to have a breast fetish, but I didn't find that bothersome  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #29 on: June 09, 2014, 01:22:49 PM

I liked the book as well.
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Reply #30 on: June 09, 2014, 05:22:41 PM

Na, its the sci-fi causing the problem.  Audiences has trouble grokking any sci-fi concept more complex than evil alien invaders.

No, it's Tom Cruise. This was literally no more complicated than Groundhog Day. The original scripts ending that has Cruise trapped literally for eternity looping to fight over and over again was scrapped. Then scenes that are rumored to have shown that Cruise was lying and could still loop allowing him to perfect the Paris assault were cut, leaving the fuckmess that's in the movie.

People hate Tom Cruise. Younger audiences only know him as an overpaid douchebag, and older audiences hate him more than the memories of when he was a decent actor. Plus, he's just too old to pull off action hero shit. Other peole could pull it off because they didn't rely on boyish good looks, but he does so he can't.

Oddly, the best performance he ever gave was in War of the Worlds. Probably because he was just doing his real personality.

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Reply #31 on: June 10, 2014, 01:13:28 AM

Funny you should mention that.  It as on last night and I watched the first half (What we'll call 'The Good Half') and I was thinking that he wasn't asstastic in it.  Even the raging douchebag son wasn't so bad in the first half.

It wasn't acted badly, it just ended up being bad and I couldn't really tell you why....

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Reply #32 on: June 10, 2014, 08:57:59 AM

So angry! I didn't think Tom was a detriment to the movie. If those were the original script endings, I'm glad they were revised, it wouldn't have made a lick of sense with the structure of the narrative I saw and call-backs to earlier information that was revealed (Rita states how she lost the power, Cage loses the power the same way, creating the illusion of third act tension and real stakes).

I think they could have pulled off a better ending than the Hollywood Happy we got, but there was a lot I liked about this film and thought Cruise was a good choice for the role given where the Cage character started and where he ended up.

Read this expose in the LA Weekly on Tom Cruise. I think it provides a more fair perspective on the man and his career.
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Reply #33 on: June 10, 2014, 11:22:15 AM

Does Tom Cruise ever die tragically in his movies?  Was anyone honestly expecting him to in this one?
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Reply #34 on: June 10, 2014, 11:27:56 AM

Does Tom Cruise ever die tragically in his movies?  Was anyone honestly expecting him to in this one?
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