Well, my dad works at Nintendo and~: Console Wars Horseshit Megathread

[Yegolev]

The Xbone is getting another pricecut here in a week; $50 off including bundles. So $349. Lmao, just give them away at this point.

I still haven't finished my 360.

[MrHat]

Watched a gameplay trailer of Tomorrow People.

Looks like a 'fun' minecrafty coop tech demo.

[schild]

You mean Tomorrow Children? I don't know about it being at all like Minecraft.

[MrHat]

You mean Tomorrow Children? I don't know about it being at all like Minecraft.

Ya that one. It looked like it played a LOT like Minecraft or whatever dig here get ore and make stuff from it game preceded it.

That said, I do like the community/coop aspect of it until it goes to shit because other people were suppose to share!

[luckton]

Reggie comes out swinging against the XBOne and PS4.

http://recode.net/2014/11/05/nintendos-reggie-fils-aime-on-holiday-strategy-call-of-duty-and-mobile-games-qa/

Is it a problem that the Wii U doesn’t have the new Call of Duty (a first for the series on consoles), and more generally doesn’t have many of the big titles one finds on Xbox and PlayStation?

I would answer the question in a couple ways. Third parties are bringing multi-platform content to our platform — Watch Dogs from Ubisoft, as an example. I would love to have Call of Duty on our platform. I would love to have any of the big blockbuster, multi-platform titles. But I have to say, more specifically, I want games that provide a differentiated consumer experience. If you look at the other two competitive platforms, fundamentally, what’s the difference?

Each of them has exclusives that the other doesn’t.

But interestingly, when you look at either one, either by themselves doesn’t have a lot of exclusive content. They have a lot of shared content. Look at it from the standpoint of, what don’t they have? They don’t have our games. They don’t have Mario and Zelda. I’d much rather be where Nintendo is, with a differentiated platform, differentiated set-up experiences that we can provide uniquely to the consumer. Let those other guys battle it out over, you know, which visual representation of Call of Duty is most compelling. I like our chances of having a differentiated console and a differentiated series of experiences.

This business is built on a year-and-a-half or two-year planning cycles, especially for the home console space. Products that they’re thinking about today are not going to come into the market until two years down the road. By doing a great job today in the here and now, that’s what’s going to feed the pipeline of great new third-party content coming onto our platform. For us, that’s the long game that we’re trying to play.

[Hawkbit]

It's roughly true, that second paragraph at least.  I was going to buy a PS4 for myself as a semester-end present next month.  However, when I really looked at a list of PS4-exclusive titles I want to play, the only game was Infamous:SS. 

So I have to ask myself, is that game worth ~$500?  Nope.  Now some of the other games, like DA:Inq I can technically play on PC, but I don't want to be forced to use Origin.  That might ultimately be the deciding factor on a PS4 purchase for me.  Bloodborne is next year, that might force my hand, too. 

Launch years are usually a bit light on games, but this one seems more so than other consoles.

[Azazel]

He might be right about the PS4/Bone not having Mario and Zelda. But really, the WiiU is a POS and I've honestly never given two shits about Mario or Zelda (Mario Kart being the exception, but I don't need the Nth iteration of that all that badly anyway.) Basically they're in the shit, they know it, and the best they can come up with in reply is "but Mario!"

[Velorath]

So Nintendo's strategy is the same as it's always been, it's just that this time the new consoles are suffering a horrendous drought of good games.

[Fabricated]

"Coming out swinging" is basically saying, "Okay yeah we got none of the releases that actually sell, but we got Zelda and Mario games like we've had for the last 30 years!"

Wow thanks, no wonder the WiiU is moving so many units.

[lamaros]

I think it's a reasonable point. The problem is that their differentiated experience is shit. If it was good it would be a great selling point.

[schild]

Every single console since the fucking SNES has been "If I buy this, I'm buying it for Nintendo properties."

I pose to you, Reggie, that you might be making fucking money if you released your fucking endless barrage of rehashed fucking content with a fresh coat of paint on other goddamn consoles, you stupid goon.

[Azazel]

Everything you say there is absolutely true. Well, except for Rogue Squadron. I loved that game. But even then, it should have been on the PSX as well. Or a launch title for the PS2.

[Sir T]

If I have to spend another 300 to 400 quid to play one or 2 games then I'm deciding not to play that game. I don't care if it's better than marriage. Its like Deciding to buy a PS just for Sonic the Hedgehog. Or an Xbone just for Halo (which I'm sure is actually a huge part of the Bone's marketing strategy right now) Sorry, count me out. I simply dont have the money for that.

[Fabricated]

I learned my lesson buying the original Wii in anticipation for Brawl. I played through Mario Galaxy 1, Metroid Prime 3, then part of Galaxy 2 and part of Twilight Princess, then Brawl wasn't terribly great (and its online sucked shit) and I ended up with a console that is now I think approaching a year and a half without being powered on.

[Paelos]

I honestly believed this was going to be the round of consoles that would make me buy one. I was dead wrong.

[HaemishM]

Isn't Persona 5 coming out for PS3 only? If so, then that'll be the reason I finally want a PS3. PS4 and the Bone? Fuck them. I have no use for either.

[Rendakor]

Persona 5 is coming out for PS3 and PS4.

[HaemishM]

Well, that's at least 1 point in favor of a PS4.

[Sir T]

Actually, after watching this Nintendo advert from the 1980's today, things actually make a lot more sense 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FybA0SaL0nI

[HaemishM]

Holy fuck. I think I'd have bricked my shorts if I'd seen that as a young kid. 

[Morat20]

So, picking up a PS4 for Christmas. Besides Shadow of Mordor, anything worth getting on the next-gen games?

[Trippy]

Infamous Second Son, The Last of Us (if you didn't play on PS3), Assassin's Creed 4. and, uh, Destiny?

[Margalis]

Reminder: AC4 is a different game than AC: Unity. 4 is Black Flag.

[Yegolev]

So, picking up a PS4 for Christmas. Besides Shadow of Mordor, anything worth getting on the next-gen games?

Binding of Isaac Rebirth is free on PSN this month.  No idea what will be available in December but considering the sorry state of PSN for PS4, it will no doubt be a HD remake of something indie.

I don't know if you should get Destiny, you are a pretty high-strung fellow.  I'd suggest some relaxing diversions instead of Destiny, unless you are willing to get to level 25 and then put the game away until a content update.  They patched out a situations in which we were able to win against that fucking Archon priest at lv26... which is pretty embarrassing for a lv28 fireteam to fail at a lv26 weekly but there ya go.

I forget when GTAV is coming out for PS4 but that might work if you didn't already buy it.

I've heard the new LEGO Batman is crap, but I don't know what that means in terms of a LEGO game.

[Morat20]

My console time is fairly intermittent, although I plan to make time for Shadow of Mordor. Last of Us is something I've been wanting to try. Avoiding Destiny seems like a good idea.

AC Black Flag goes onto the list then with the Last of Us then.

[Falconeer]

I will get a PS4 this Christmas because I'll have the money and I will need it in March for Bloodbourne (Yes, getting the console for it basically, and future Gran Turismos), but damn it's incredibly depressing that there are zero games I care to play on it are there so far. ZERO. Hell, with the previous Playstations you at least had a constant influx of Japanese semi-obscure titles. What happened there? Why aren't we at least getting more Japanese games? Are they still making them at all?

[Yegolev]

I believe Japanese are all playing games on their phones these days.

[Cyrrex]

Much of the problem I have with my PS4 is that there might actually be a few games that I would want to get for it....but right now, basically all those games are available on PC as well.  I have probably already said this same thing already in this thread, but it bears repeating.  

[Yegolev]

Seems like almost anything worth a shit on the consoles will find its way to PC.  It doesn't seem to work in the other direction.

[Rendakor]

I will get a PS4 this Christmas because I'll have the money and I will need it in March for Bloodbourne (Yes, getting the console for it basically, and future Gran Turismos), but damn it's incredibly depressing that there are zero games I care to play on it are there so far. ZERO. Hell, with the previous Playstations you at least had a constant influx of Japanese semi-obscure titles. What happened there? Why aren't we at least getting more Japanese games? Are they still making them at all?

It has always taken a year or two for the flood of JRPGs to happen; they still have a bunch coming out on the Vita.

[Jeff Kelly]

Sony just announced the current sales numbers for Germany. PS4 cracked the million unit mark in October. They sold 460,000 units in between June and October alone (talk about supply constrained).

Current stats:

PS4 LTD 1,000,000 (as of October '14)
Wii U LTD 350,000 (as of August '14)
XBox One LTD 170,000 (as of August '14)

[Phildo]

It has always taken a year or two for the flood of JRPGs to happen; they still have a bunch coming out on the Vita.

Yeah, there were a bunch of games from Atlus that came out for PS2 well after the PS3 had launched.

Apparently, they're just doing it for the Vita instead of the PS3 this time around.  Dance party, anyone?

[Falconeer]

I am officially angry at handheld systems. I thought I wanted them when '90 I got a the first Gameboy and realized I liked games at home or in the arcade, but didn't care at all when I was out and preferred to read books or just look around and maybe watch people. Since then I have been unable to play anything handheld, including mobile games, and I am angry at the Vita and the likes for taking my favourite games away from my living room. Rant over.

[Rendakor]

Get one of these then:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_TV

[Trippy]

Not all Vita games work on that. You'll need to check the lists (none of them are complete). If you do get one you'll probably want a Dual Shock 4 instead of a 3 since you can use the touch pad on the 4 on the games that support it. I play Freedom Wars on mine with the DS4. Works well.