Tom Clancy's The Division

[Strazos]

It's basically Open PVP areas, which I don't think is new.

[01101010]

It's basically Open PVP areas, which I don't think is new.

Yes, but there are conditions that govern that area and how you impact those around you.

[Nija]

It has a shallow, piss poor design. What games don't have that? The shiny is going to wear off in like 9 days.

[Azazel]

I'm waiting until the first PSN sale. By then the game should have evened out or be a complete clusterfuck.

[Falconeer]

It has a shallow, piss poor design. What games don't have that? The shiny is going to wear off in like 9 days.

It is not extra-new but it is not "what games don't have that?" kind of old. Why don't you people start listing the games, especially shooters, that have that?

It is basically an open factionless PvP area with inventory looting. Other than the recent wave of hardcore survivals, what other games have it?

And the shine is gonna wear off in 9 days the same way it does from EVERY game these days. Some of you might have a go-to game that you have been playing for a year or two, but other than that every fucking game lasts a couple of weeks at best now. It's not a matter of design anymore. The offer is too large, the amount of new games every week is overwhelming, the prices have been going down, our salaries have been going up, and our attention spans have shrunk to dangerous levels and the only games that stick around are those that sink their hooks somewhere in the soft subconscious matter in the back of our individual brains through an undiscolosed combination of pretty blinking lights and dopaminic sounds which is different for everyone.

[MrHat]

And the shine is gonna wear off in 9 days the same way it does from EVERY game these days. Some of you might have a go-to game that you have been playing for a year or two, but other than that every fucking game lasts a couple of weeks at best now. It's not a matter of design anymore. The offer is too large, the amount of new games every week is overwhelming, the prices have been going down, our salaries have been going up, and our attention spans have shrunk to dangerous levels and the only games that stick around are those that sink their hooks somewhere in the soft subconscious matter in the back of our individual brains through an undiscolosed combination of pretty blinking lights and dopaminic sounds which is different for everyone.

Sounds about right.

[ezrast]

Why is all the hype for this game so DZ-centric? I enjoyed exploring the city and thought the PvE missions were well-done and unique (also, loot). The Dark Zone was a cute diversion but there are a billion other shooters I'd play before spending any significant amount of time there. Are you guys actually buying this for the competitive multiplayer?

What billion other shooters have something similar to the Dark Zone? I don't think it fits under the traditional classification of "competitive multiplayer".

Unique doesn't equal compelling. If I wanted to shoot at people I'd play an arena FPS and if I wanted to get ganked by assholes with better gear than me I'd play Ark or Rust or whatever the state of the art is in multiplayer survival ball-kicking simulators these days. I guess I can see the Dark Zone being an interesting middle ground for people who enjoy both of those things. I was just surprised that I seem to be the only one that thinks the PvE was more fun.

[Surlyboi]

You're not the only one.

I much prefer the PVE areas and the potential of the story line to the dark zone. I just have a feeling that at some point, the two will intertwine. You'll have to run a few missions into the DZ because that first wave of agents that went either missing or KIA are now the original rogues hiding out in there.

[Azazel]

"The best loot is found in The Dark Zone."

So if you like to PVE and want a leg up, you'll have to go into the DZ to get some better/uber/whatever gear, anyway.

[Kageru]

After watching some of the beta footage I can't even remember why this game interested me at one point.

But since it's as close as we are getting to a Western MMO it will be very interesting to see how they keep the content fresh and handle progression. Because given the expensive to create environments and realistic setting they've made it about as hard on themselves as they possibly could.

"The best loot is found in The Dark Zone."

So if you like to PVE and want a leg up, you'll have to go into the DZ to get some better/uber/whatever gear, anyway.

But this only really motivates if there is PvE progression to use that gear on.

[Surlyboi]

There is. If you get that high end shit in the DZ, you'll now through the mobs in PVE.

[Azazel]

Yeah, I can't see how he missed that.

[Falconeer]

The "Year One" season plan announced. All the coming DLCs, Patches and Expansions (some of it paid, some of it free) have been unveiled.

Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_qUtFkdPEk

And here's the official page: http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-gb/news/detail.aspx?c=tcm:154-241886-16&ct=tcm:148-76770-32

[Mandella]

Well crap, I'm getting interested in spite of myself.

So how does the PvE part stack up? I'm that weird guy who likes story in MMOs, and who finds combat mechanics to be far down the list of stuff I care about (by which I mean that the mechanics are just the stuff I learn how to do to further the story  -- I usually don't care if combat is "jerky" or whatever, as long as I can figure out which keys to hammer to kill the current Whamadoodle).

So is the story/graphics/gameplay interesting?

Say, compared to Dying Light (which I liked).

[lesion]

Everything is a bit more ho-hum than Dying Light. You can't use a grappling hook or chest-kick zombies off ladders. If you could it'd be "press and hold Q to chest-kick angry masked guy" while he waits at the top of the ladder.

I mean the gunfights feel good but the rest of the game is solid meh.

Story is gripping if you have 1995's Outbreak playing in the background. No, that's a lie. I am a liar.

[Surlyboi]

Fuck Dying Light. I finish almost everything and I didn't finish that.

[Strazos]

I think I loaded the game up twice. Played it a bit once normal singleplayer...then jumped on multiplayer with friends, which promptly ruined the game entirely.  

stealthedit: I'm referring to Dying Light, not The Division. The latter is waaaay better with friends.

[Evildrider]

This is live in about 3 hours if you have preordered.

[Surlyboi]

Been live since about 7AM Eastern if you had a physical copy.

[Evildrider]

Been live since about 7AM Eastern if you had a physical copy.

Yeah but I don't need no stinkin' physical copy!

[schild]

1 hour on the nose. I'm sure it won't work right. I can't believe I installed UPlay. What a crock of shit.

[schild]

This doesn't seem like a bad game.

I wish I had it on Steam though.

[Ginaz]

Looks like their servers and/or UPlay just shit the bed.  Remind me again why I'm playing a Ubisoft game?  Fucking fake Frenchmen.

[Surlyboi]

Severs are proper fucked.

Ubifucked.

[Ginaz]

Severs are proper fucked.

Ubifucked.

The servers are probably housed in the dark zone.  Press F to shit on Ubisoft's fat, French faces. #ubishit

Maybe someone should Tweet Ubisoft or something and ask them if they tried turning the servers off and on a couple of times.

[Falconeer]

What's up with you and French people?

[lesion]

I was about to buy this on the off chance it wasn't a complete clusterfuck at launch. *sips coffee*

[01101010]

Still waiting on the disc to be delivered so I'm good with shit blowing up. 

[luckton]

Tom Clancy's Line Simulator

[Trippy]

Reminds me of LoTRO. People would stand in neat orderly lines to collect slow spawning quest resources at launch.

[Merusk]

What an utterly amazing clusterfuck.

[01101010]

Well... I mean it is supposedly Black Friday in game... right?!

[Mandella]

Oh thank god this is Ubisoft. Urge to buy rapidly fading.

[Surlyboi]

Everything was back up within an hour and the servers have been fairly stable since then.

[Evildrider]

Everything was back up within an hour and the servers have been fairly stable since then.

It wasn't even that long.. I think it was like 30 minutes and everything was smooth after that.