Nextbox infinity anticipation station

[Teleku]

If by design you mean "Flat surfaces are the new shiney."

Sort of.  I'm tired of all the weirdly warped plastic shit that is suppose to be the future.  I seriously think this:



Looks better than any of these:





But again, everything else about this is laughably bad.  Badly bad bad bad.

[Jeff Kelly]

Watching TV is hard, I have to, like, press buttons and stuff

[Arthur_Parker]

I don't understand the TV thing, what's different about it?  

I have network/internet on my 4 year old TV plus it takes an NTFS external HD that plays most things.  I missed being able to have lovefilm/netflix by one generation, in a couple of years everyone will start switching to OLED.

edit checked age of TV.

[KallDrexx]

Well this makes the idea of hooking a PC to TV as my core gaming system more reasonable.

[Arthur_Parker]

While I think of it, I read a good point about the new Ultra HD TV's, there's little to no content available yet but the pixel size is really going to help reading text on a TV screen.  So I can see a lot of potential for internet side bar content next to the broadcast image, I can't see the new generations of smart TV's leaving out hand gestures and voice activation if people start liking that crap.

So aside from games, in a couple of years why would anyone buy this instead of putting the money towards a new TV?

[waffel]

Who the hell is responsible for numbering at Microsoft?
Windows 3.1
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows 2000
Windows 7
Windows 8

Xbox 360
Xbox 1

[Fabricated]

Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours.

Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.

[Merusk]

Are you people insane? This thing is so awesome.

Not to own or play games or media on.

It's the new trend in amateur porn, once all that sweet always-on footage from your bedroom and sofa makes its way to russia.

Fuck yeah!

Sky's pickin' up what I'm layin' down.

Time to start collecting Xbox Live names of actual females so I can sell them to Russian hackers for future use.

[Evildrider]

[Phred]

Who the hell is responsible for numbering at Microsoft?

That's why I said they should go with XBox Millenium. It has a history that fits.

[koro]

So. That much-discussed "additional fee" for activating second-hand games?

$60.

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

"But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison says."

"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

[Kageru]

The idea of EB and Gamestop getting their business model evaporated brings me great pleasure.

[Merusk]

Ahahahahahahahahah


Fucking awesome.

[Lakov_Sanite]

This is going to kill Xbox if the only games you can rent or buy used is ps4.  If Sony is smart though they'll just mirror this, take the Microsoft competition and kill GameStop completely.

[Stormwaltz]

Though I'm going to break from the pack and say I actually quite like the look of its physical design.

It's a rectangular prism.

It's a four-day simultaneous time cube.

[Trippy]

Actual demo of the new Kinect 2 (sorry, Gizmodo, I know):

http://gizmodo.com/kinect-2-full-video-walkthrough-the-xbox-sees-you-like-509155673

I eagerly await the next gen in dancing games.

[Phred]

For those that missed today's presentation here it is in a nutshell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

[Bzalthek]

heh

[SurfD]

This is going to kill Xbox if the only games you can rent or buy used is ps4.  If Sony is smart though they'll just mirror this, take the Microsoft competition and kill GameStop completely.

Well, if this thing is as much a PC as it is believed, I give it a month tops before the hacking community figures out how to completely bypass the authentiaction system on it, allowing you to run some kind of "always connected" emulator that will let you install and play anything without ever having to verify it.

No easier way to get the pirate community in general to say "challenge accepted" then do something like try to completely kill used games trading.

I mean, fuck, I really hope they tie the game install to your online account and not the physical machine.  At least that way you could go to your buddies place,  log on to your account on his machine, and install the game again if you wanted to play it at his place.   The idea that I might have to physically take my system to my friends place to play my games when he has the same system is batshit stupid.

[Rendakor]

Tying it to your login would be too easily bypassed since the system only needs to authenticate once a day.

[01101010]

Who the hell is responsible for numbering at Microsoft?
Windows 3.1
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows 2000
Windows 7
Windows 8

Xbox 360
Xbox 1

Dunno why this struck me funny, but I laughed way too hard at this. 

[Morat20]

Did I hear "Absolutely no backwards compatability whatso-fucking-ever" with 360?

Because, you know, that worked out GREAT with the PS3. And nothing says "replace your 360" like "None of your games will work, and also all that arcade shit you bought? GONE TOO FUCKER!".

Jesus Christ. It's like the year of shit-stupid in the games industry.

Next gen Xbox is some unholy hybrid of AppleTV and yelling at the automated complaint line, with a shitty games console tacked on as an afterthought.

[Fabricated]

If Sony is smart they won't do the always online one-console game activation thing and completely fucking eat Microsoft's lunch along with drinking their milkshake. Publishers won't abandon or ignore the PS4.

[Lakov_Sanite]

This is going to kill Xbox if the only games you can rent or buy used is ps4.  If Sony is smart though they'll just mirror this, take the Microsoft competition and kill GameStop completely.

Well, if this thing is as much a PC as it is believed, I give it a month tops before the hacking community figures out how to completely bypass the authentiaction system on it, allowing you to run some kind of "always connected" emulator that will let you install and play anything without ever having to verify it.

No easier way to get the pirate community in general to say "challenge accepted" then do something like try to completely kill used games trading.

I mean, fuck, I really hope they tie the game install to your online account and not the physical machine.  At least that way you could go to your buddies place,  log on to your account on his machine, and install the game again if you wanted to play it at his place.   The idea that I might have to physically take my system to my friends place to play my games when he has the same system is batshit stupid.

I would bet money the full games won't be on the discs which means in addition to cracking the xbox you'll need to find the game online, plus you won't be able to use XBL.  Yes it will be pirated but it's going to be pain in the ass enough that people won't bother with it.

[Soln]

This will be awesome for Microsoft once they figure out how to disable the customer.  Worked for Win8.

[Sky]

While I think of it, I read a good point about the new Ultra HD TV's, there's little to no content available yet but the pixel size is really going to help reading text on a TV screen. 

Not necessary.

I think the 'make tv easier' will be in the same realm as 'pay the subscription to access Internet'. Now you'll pay for cable and then pay again to watch it over the xbox.

And still another tech company that thinks everyone has always on broadband, heh.

Further, I can't take my copy of Madden over to my stoner buddy's house to play on the weekend? Yeah, that'll be popular.

I didn't want to jump on the negative train, I swear. But what the fuck?

[MrHat]

I can't wait to run steam on this.

[HaemishM]

The idea of EB and Gamestop getting their business model evaporated brings me great pleasure.

Yes, it is truly delicious. It also pretty much assures my cheap ass will not touch this fucking system with a ten foot pole. If I need a Blu-Ray player that plays games, I'll go buy a PS3. At least I won't feel the fucking I'm getting.

Or I'll just stick to my PC because it does all this, plays games at better resolution and I don't feel completely chained to some fucktard's idea of how I want to access my entertainment.

[Arthur_Parker]

While I think of it, I read a good point about the new Ultra HD TV's, there's little to no content available yet but the pixel size is really going to help reading text on a TV screen.  

Not necessary.

I think the 'make tv easier' will be in the same realm as 'pay the subscription to access Internet'. Now you'll pay for cable and then pay again to watch it over the xbox.

And still another tech company that thinks everyone has always on broadband, heh.

I thought it was already happening for free, in this country anyway, the modern TV remote control has an internet button.  Good point on broadband though, I switched to fibre a while back and I guess I started to take it for granted very quickly.

Edit, I guess with the BBC license fee, iplayer Sky/Virgin we are already paying extra.

[luckton]

The one thing I look forward to about the next Xbox:

[Merusk]

While I think of it, I read a good point about the new Ultra HD TV's, there's little to no content available yet but the pixel size is really going to help reading text on a TV screen.  

Not necessary.

I think the 'make tv easier' will be in the same realm as 'pay the subscription to access Internet'. Now you'll pay for cable and then pay again to watch it over the xbox.

And still another tech company that thinks everyone has always on broadband, heh.

I thought it was already happening for free, in this country anyway, the modern TV remote control has an internet button.  Good point on broadband though, I switched to fibre a while back and I guess I started to take it for granted very quickly.

Edit, I guess with the BBC license fee, iplayer Sky/Virgin we are already paying extra.

Digital and Broadband adoption in this country aren't stellar.  Latest FCC study I could find said 65% of homes in the US use broadband. Which seemed way too high.  Then I read the details of what the FCC was counting as "broadband."

For the purposes of this report, home broadband users are those who said they used any one of the following technologies to access the internet from home: cable modem, a DSL-enabled
phone line, fixed wireless, satellite, a mobile broadband wireless connection for your computer or cell phone, fiber optic, T-1. In other words, home broadband users opt in to that classification through a survey question not by adhering to definition of broadband by speed that might be read to them.

So yeah, if you count smartphones, woo great penetration! Wonder of X-box 1 will let you use that 4g connection. 


So instead, let's use the Wiki Article, which uses the International Telecommunications Union's report, which lists the US at 27%    

It refers to subscriptions to high-speed access to the public Internet (a TCP/IP connection), at downstream speeds equal to, or greater than, 256 kbit/s. This can include for example cable modem, DSL, fibre-to-the-home/building and other fixed (wired) broadband subscriptions. This total is measured irrespective of the method of payment. It excludes subscriptions that have access to data communications (including the Internet) via mobile cellular networks.[2]

Erk. Much less encouraging. I guess not enough poor & rural people bought consoles to matter?

[Arthur_Parker]

Things have really improved a lot over the last few years here, after switching to fibre I had to kick the wii off my network to get full n speeds, I was on 4meg down/75kbps upload till very recently.

[Morat20]

I hate you. Best I can get here is about 2/3rds that. :(

And that was roughly 5 times what I had before.

Out of curiosity, how is the rest of the world taking the Xbox One? The radio guys this morning seemed vaguely excited by the new Kinect stuff but that's about it. (And am I the only one basically just "Fuck this" at the no backwards compatability thing? Or has that been known and I'm late to the aw crap response?)

[Arthur_Parker]

T3 Xbox One Analysis

Stats are thrown at us about 80 per cent of 18-35-year-old watching telly with a phone or tablet in their hands, and how the average 87 hours a month of Xbox Live usage per Gold user is  not only 50/50 entertainment and gaming, but also equivalent to half of all television viewing in the US. Make no mistake, the rumours were true: Microsoft are gunning for the space under everyone's TV, not just gamers', the removal of those domestically divisive glowing green quadrants – anything illuminated is now a minimalist white hue – a clear appeasement to the non-core, more aesthetically fussy masses.

I'd be surprised if anyone in the mainstream press came right out and said it's stupid.  There'd be a backlash from fans and Microsoft for no real gain.

edit to add. In the UK, Sky ~ 10 million households , virgin ~ 4 million, BT Vision ~ 1 million, plus things like humax freesat.

I don't know much about Virgin but the Sky box has a downloadable library, movies, iplayer, itv player.  The UK market is stuffed full of TV media boxes already, I couldn't find a use for this new xbox if someone gave me one.

oh, it's meant to voice control everything. Xbox One will work with UK TV 'in a variety of ways'

[Shannow]

From my 12 year old:

This looks stupid I'm never going to get one

Out of the mouths of babes.