NFL 2013

[Malakili]

I don't even give a crap about the AFC east, I just hate to see a game end on a stupid penalty call, I would've been just as happy if he made the field goal and penalty didn't matter.

[Paelos]

Didn't see the call. Was it legit or not?

[Malakili]

The Jets had a 56 yd field goal attempt, and a Patriots guy got called for unsportsmanlike conduct for apparently pushing one of his own players to try and get more push on the line.  The replay looked like he did it, but not THAT much. I mean, maybe by the letter of the law it was a penalty, I don't know but it didn't strike me as something you don't see on every other field goal attempt.  But it felt extremely ticky tacky and immediately cut all the tension of the game because the jets were in easy field goal range after the 15 yards.  Made for a terrible spectator experience.

[Rasix]

That was a really dumb time to enforce that rule for like the first time ever.   I don't like the Pats, but that was fucking stupid.  It affected the play in no way at all and wasn't very obvious from any angle.

[Trippy]

It's a new rule for 2013. Apparently people were getting injured because of that technique in the past.

Fast forward to around 4 minutes to see it explained:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000227305/article/breaking-down-the-nfls-new-rules-for-2013-season

[Paelos]

It's a stupid rule. They are doing everything to take special teams out of the game.

I understand the original rule which was putting hands on a teammate to launch a player for a block. This is just inane.

[Surlyboi]

It's a very stupid rule, but seeing as the Pats are rarely penalized for when they break all sorts of other rules, I'll take it.

[Nevermore]

Against any other team I might think it was a ticky tack call, but Belicheat can just suck it. 

[Megrim]

They lost it when Brady overthrew three at the end of regulation. After that, the game was just a 50/50.

[Paelos]

You're again misrepresenting my concerns as more dire than they are. I've been discussing the question marks that ARE there, even if we still win. I've said that it could be a close game, and that I see a good opportunity for them to pull the upset.

Hey, after all that you might be right. 

Peyton's receivers don't exactly look sharp.

[sickrubik]

This isn't on the receivers, this is all Indy's pressure and man coverage. Just like I said. Manning has been off since getting drilled by Mathis.

Edit: Also, Broncos are committing some really terrible frustration fueled penalties.

[Nevermore]

Time to move the Jets in front of the Broncos in the power rankings! 

[Malakili]

How many stupid personal fouls does Vickerson need to get called for before they bench him.  Jesus fucking christ what a manchild.

[sickrubik]

How many stupid personal fouls does Vickerson need to get called for before they bench him.  Jesus fucking christ what a manchild.

That last one had a LITTLE bit of BS flopping by Luck, but he shouldn't be doing something like that anyway, so... yeah...

It wa a bit bizarre as he hasn't had any issues this season until now.

I think the broncos may make some trades in the next couple of weeks. If this really is Superbowl-Or-Bust, there are some major issues that we need to address before the post season, especially with KC rolling along.

[Shannow]

The call on the Pats wasn't even correct.
Original google cache of new rule here.   Players NOT on line of scrimmage can't push. (Jones was very obviously on the line)

That page was then updated after the game and the text about the line of scrimmage was removed as it has been in all other posts on nfl.com.

Belichick knew the rule better than the refs because you can hear him screaming at them 'He was on the line of scrimmage'.

 

Betting that the channels that carry the NFL will refuse to followup on that particular coverup.

[Paelos]

A rule was invented for the Patriots, so they can go fuck themselves.

[Shannow]

Sigh no. The tuck rule was a shitty rule that shouldn't existed that was applied correctly.

This is the NFL knowing they fucked up and trying to actually to cover it up. The Pats should've still lost cause of their shitty defense and shitty play calling in OT.

Fuck the NFL and their arrogance.

[Paelos]

Not the tuck rule. The going low on QBs rule BECAUSE OH NOES BRADY GOT HURT ONCE.

[K9]

[Paelos]

That wasn't designed, right? Completely broken, yes?

[Rasix]

Not the tuck rule. The going low on QBs rule BECAUSE OH NOES BRADY GOT HURT ONCE.

That also happened to Rothlesberger, Palmer and at least one other I'm forgetting.  A 300lb man diving into a guy's planted leg is going to cause some carnage.

[Segoris]

That wasn't designed, right? Completely broken, yes?

Not designed, completely broken. Charles said he went the wrong way

[HaemishM]

I watched the Dallas/Philly game and should have gone with the Jets/Pats instead. Both the Cowboys and the Eagles looked like shit the first half, and not much better the second half. Foles was completely lost and is now probably out of the starting QB picture though Barkley certainly didn't look like a viable option either. Without Murray, the Cowboys can't run for shit. They are going to get lit up in the playoffs.

The Denver/Indy game was a whole other thing. Indy's press coverage worked and that was against really good receivers. So why couldn't they beat San Diego? Manning got beat up all night and by the 3rd quarter, it looked like he'd lost all arm strength. He got it back but still he didn't look quite right. That fumble by Hillman didn't have to mean the end of the game, but that Vickerson penalty? That sure as shit did. And it was utter stupidity on his part too. He didn't even need to touch Luck at all and it was so obvious that Luck took advantage of it with a flop. But it totally wiped out a 3rd down incompletion that would have left Indy punting from deep. Then on the punts right after the 2-minute warning... Yes, the first offsetting penalty was necessary but the time they lost with a 2nd then a third kick - why accept some of those penalties? The time got wasted and nothing came of the final drive.

Green Bay beat the shit out of Cleveland even without James Jones. I feel bad for Cleveland - if not for one stupid, badly-executed slide by Brian Hoyer, they might have a shot at the playoffs this year. They still might as the Ravens are doing their best to lose. But they were so much better under Hoyer.

[sickrubik]

The Hillman fumble was the end because it completely deflated the teams momentum.

Honestly, if you look at what Manning did towards the end of the game, it was because he just gave up trusting the Offensive Line and chucked it. It's almost like we're missing our starting tackles. Manning was hurried/rushed all game because we could not get good pass protection. And Julius Thomas is TERRIBLE at blocking.

[Nevermore]

That wasn't designed, right? Completely broken, yes?

It looks like it was designed to me, the running back goes right for a block which opens up the hole for Smith to run through.

Edit: ok, well I guess Charles would know.  Nice improv on a busted play, though.

[Mithas]

Smith said that it was a designed run. I just think Charles went the wrong way so it looked funny.

[sickrubik]

AND IT WORKED. It should NOT have worked, but it did. the defender just stood there staring at Smith, until Smith decided to book for it. It was cartoonish.

[Nevermore]

He was probably trying to process what Smith was doing just holding out the ball like that.

[ghost]

So Josh Freeman can win me my fantasy league game this week if he can get me more than 16 points.   

Good thing they are playing the Giants. 

[HaemishM]

That may not be enough. 

[sickrubik]

He was probably trying to process what Smith was doing just holding out the ball like that.

I think they BOTH were.

[ghost]

That may not be enough. 

No shit.  He's bad.   

[HaemishM]

Cutler out at least 4 weeks with a torn groin muscle. Reggie Wayne done for the season with a torn ACL.

[Nevermore]

Bradford is also out for the year and things are kind of up in the air with Doug Martin.  I kind of hope Martin shuts himself down if the team doesn't so he can come back at full strength next year with a new coaching staff.

[Paelos]

I'm not sure what's going to happen with Finley, but I dropped him. I hope he doesn't play this year after that. It was terrifying.