NFL 2013

[K9]

Matt Flynn is now #3 on the raiders depth chart; guy can't catch a break can he?

[HaemishM]

Motherfucker got sacked 7 times this weekend. He's probably better off not playing this year and trying to latch on to a team with a better O line next season. Plus, I'm sure Pryor will get hurt again and someone will have to start.

[01101010]

It always amazes me how QBs just do not know how to slide feet first. Did none of these cats play little league? Fuck it, I learned in Tee ball. Hoyer was a dumbass on the play. He was looking respectable up until then. Completely unnecessary injury - if you break yourself on a play...? I mean really. I'll just bask in the notion that the Browns are in 1st in the AFC north because that shit won't last and certainly won't be common, so as a fan, I'll take it right now.

And yes, he did shred his ACL and is now on the IR for the rest of the year. So much for that career.
http://nfl.si.com/2013/10/04/browns-brian-hoyer-torn-acl-out-for-season/

[HaemishM]

So much for the Browns' resurgence. Weedon is just not good enough to get that team anywhere.

[Paelos]

I want QBs to stop doing that altogether. Either throw it away, or take the sack. The scrambling drives me nuts in this league lately.

[WayAbvPar]

I want QBs to stop doing that altogether. Either throw it away, or take the sack. The scrambling drives me nuts in this league lately.

Not sure if serious...

[HaemishM]

Definitely sure it won't happen. We're seeing more QB's running, not less. I just want the college coaches and the pro coaches to start teaching these chucklefucks how to avoid a fucking hit. Show them the last few years of Donovan McNabb's career or Daunte Culpepper's injury if they need illustration about the dangers of dumbassery.

[Paelos]

No, I mean it. QBs are trying to run for first downs, and run to avoid taking hits, yet all the NFL protections and rules only exist when you are in the pocket. There is literally a zone from the upper thigh to your armpits that you can hit a QB in the pocket. Anything else, and it's a flag and a fine. Move from that pocket? And it's free game except for a helmet leading shot.

[K9]

Can we blame RGIII for this? Or was the there always a trend towards mobile QB threats?

[01101010]

Can we blame RGIII for this? Or was the there always a trend towards mobile QB threats?

I blame Elway... always have, and always will.

[Nevermore]

Is it just me or does it seem like there are more midseason trades this year than usual?

[Ruvaldt]

Can we blame RGIII for this? Or was the there always a trend towards mobile QB threats?

I would blame Vick before anyone else.  He was the first quarterback to have 1,000 yards rushing.  McNair and McNabb are notable for having higher than average rushing numbers recently, but Vick was really the one that broke the mold more than anyone, I think.

[Paelos]

It really went over the top with Vick, yes.

[Ingmar]

Tarkenton imo.

[Paelos]

He would run, but you'd never see much more than 300ish yards a season. Vick was what caused this modern era of running QB onslaught we've seen in my mind. He rushed for almost 800 yards in his second season.

[HaemishM]

He had to run. He sure as fuck couldn't throw accurately or read defenses.

[WayAbvPar]

Or the PETA website, for that matter.

[Trippy]

Tarkenton imo.

He would run, but you'd never see much more than 300ish yards a season. Vick was what caused this modern era of running QB onslaught we've seen in my mind. He rushed for almost 800 yards in his second season.

Tarkenton ran around a lot but most of that was behind the line of scrimmage. Staubach I would say was actually the better runner (and scrambler) but he didn't need to run as much since his position players were so good. Randall Cunningham to me was the prototype of today's running QB. Steve Young could've been that person as well but he chose not to run as much as he could've.

[ghost]

I seem to remember Montana being fairly good at scrambling/running, but I my memory of that era of football is pretty fuzzy. 

[Chimpy]

Randall Cunningham was really the first QB that his running ability scared defensive coaches as much or more than his throwing ability. He would look at running the ball as a way to get yardage in and of itself, not as a way to extend the play to give him a chance to find an open receiver (which the "scrambling" quarterbacks like Elway were doing).

[sickrubik]

First quarters aren't even over and we have the play of the week.

http://www.gifdsports.com/2013/10/titans-kicked-ball-fumble-on-punt.html

[Nevermore]

O rly?

http://www.diehardsport.com/2013/10/06/indianapolis-colts-block-seattle-field-goal-return-td/

[sickrubik]

I stand on the KC/TEN play. It's so ridiculous.

[Nevermore]

It was a smart play by the KC dude to push the blocker into the path of the bouncing ball.  That blocked field goal landing right on the Colts guy, that was ridiculous.

[sickrubik]

That was just a heads up play by the Colts player to snatch the ball. The Chiefs were just applying good coverage, flukish as hell for it to bounce off the foot. Great heads up play by the Chiefs afterwards, but in general Chiefs DST has been phenomenal this season.


http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/more-like-the-new-york-fumble-giants-1441758421 

[Surlyboi]

Eli is just trying to outdo Geno for most interceptions in New York.

[MrHat]

Peyton could've strolled that in.

 

[Paelos]

Every Denver game is sort of proving my point about how ridiculous offense is getting in the NFL. This one just happens to be on both sides. It's like a college game out there.

[Megrim]

Peyton could've strolled that in.

 

He did though.

 * Edit:

Doubting the church of Peyton. Hah!

[HaemishM]

Oh Tony Romo, don't you ever change.  

[Trippy]

Can't really blame him for the loss, though.

[jgsugden]

I like how Wilson is utilized as a running QB.  He goes down well before any hit he sees coming, and his movement is enough to force the defenses to devote resources to try to contain him.  I don't think he is the best of these young mobile QBs, but he does seem to be the one that makes use of his running ability to the most benefit with the least risk.  However, if I were starting a franchise today, the QB I'd want is the least mobile one in this new generation of mobile QBs: Luck.  Mobile, but that isn't his real strength.

[MediumHigh]

Funny me at the bar seeing the cowboys score on their first drive. I shout 50 point game and leave before the first quarter ends when it's 17 to 14. I look at a cowboy fan and say "hey that kicked field goal is going to cost you the game." 

I've always liked Tony Romo and despite being a redskin fan, if I could root for the cowboys without throwing up it'll be because of him. Sure he is inconsistent but so is Eli and he has 2 rings and Tony could throw circles around him with half the talent at the other end of the ball.   

[HaemishM]

Can't really blame him for the loss, though.

Why not? He tossed a pick at the worst possible time when you absolutely need him to not turn the ball over. He did what franchise QB's aren't supposed to do - he threw a pick deep in his own territory with the game tied and no timeouts left. He should have had better blocking but he also should not have thrown that ball. That game was insane. I may have to change my mind about Dez Bryant being a true #1 - he looked the part yesterday and his stats this year hold up. Now if only the Cowboys could run the ball, they might have a winning record. Romo was incredible for 58 minutes. Peyton was Peyton. I'm more surprised that the Denver D gave up almost 50 points.

New Orleans is for real. Chicago... not so much. The Saints defense is better than I thought but the Bears are not as good as their record indicates. The only reason that game was even close was one 3-play drive that had Alshon Jeffrey open deep (though he was open most of the game). Otherwise the Bears shit the bed on offense. Their defense is really not good which is something I completely don't get. This is almost the same crew as last year's D but they can't seem to stop anybody. If New Orleans had any sort of running game, this game would have been over in the 2nd quarter. The fact that the Saints had to settle for 2 FG's on their first two drives because they couldn't make short yardage situations with the running game was all that kept it from being a rout defensively.

Mike Vick's hamstring -  Eli's 3 turnovers - 

As for Houston - fuck, this team is seriously way worse than they have any right to be. Their defense can't stop anybody right now. San Fran just ran over them. Kap couldn't find anyone open most of the night and yet the Texans STILL couldn't keep them out of the endzone. And I don't know what the fuck is up with Schaub but whatever it is, defenses are just pouncing on his mistakes when he makes them. Maybe they've figured him out. Offensively, you can put their collapse this season entirely on him. Foster/Tate are running well, they have a second weapon besides Johnson in Deandre Hopkins but Schaub is just not getting shit done, period. Fans calling for Yates to start though? I'm not sure what they think Yates is going to do better other than not throw picks. Of course, that may be enough.

[MrHat]

As for Houston - fuck, this team is seriously way worse than they have any right to be.

You're dead on there.  The Madden way to put it is they don't have a winning attitude.  I blame Kubiak.