NFL 2013

[HaemishM]

How little confidence does your team have to have in Christian Ponder to hire MATT CASSELL? As a Packers fan, I wholeheartedly endorse this transaction.

[sickrubik]

SJax to the FALCONS.

[Segoris]

Did not see that coming, but good move by SJAX too.

[Nebu]

They have better retirement homes in Atlanta or something?

[HaemishM]

Fuck. I was hoping Green Bay would sign him but I don't think they wanted to spend the money he was looking for. Oh well. At least we didn't sign Shonn Greene.

[HaemishM]

Welp. Cary Williams from the Ravens to the Eagles. 3-year, $17 million. 75 tackles, 4 INTs, 17 passes defensed.

Going to be mighty hard sledding to create a defense from fucking scratch.

The Eagles also signed Kenny Phillips, Safety from the Giants with injury issues.

[sickrubik]

Yeah, well, I guess all the good news meant this was going to happen.

Broncos safety Quinton Carter facing Vegas cheating case  

Hartline working in a drive-through durign the offseason, and conducts an interview while doing so.  

[Segoris]

Eagles also picked up Barwin from Hou. I didn't see it mentioned in all the Baltimore purging, but Eagles also grabbed Cary Williams

Sea loses Leon Washington, but oh hey look you get Michael Bennett.

[HaemishM]

Hartline working in a drive-through durign the offseason, and conducts an interview while doing so.  

That dude just got major respect from me.

[HaemishM]

Kevin Kolb released by the Cardinals rather than pay a $2 million roster bonus.

They also apparently signed Drew Stanton, who has been out of football for 2 years, probably for a Necco Wafer and some bus fare. ESPN bobbleheads are thinking the Jets will bring him in even after they brought in Garrard.

[Paelos]

It's amazing to me how many NFL organizations are just floundering for QBs.

[Segoris]

While I dig it that Hartline is a store owner and works in the offseason, I still prefer a similar story from a few weeks back about Terrance Ganaway making sandwhiches at Jimmy John's

He's okay financially, but says he's doing it to stay out of trouble and keeps him from spending money while filling his offseason time

[JWIV]

That looks about right.

[sickrubik]

Elvis Dumervil agreed to salary reduction, smartly. Remains in Denver.


 

Oh jesus. Agent didn't fax the paperwork in time... salary cap issues, chance for other teams to jump on him.

Edit: Dove Valely didn't get the paperwork until 1:59, and had to protect themselves from the $12M hit and released Dumervil. Colossal "mistake" on the part of the agent.

[Paelos]

Wow fucking paperwork fail. That's gloriously bad from a front office.

[sickrubik]

Wow fucking paperwork fail. That's gloriously bad from a front office.

It is NOT the front office.

The situation was on the shoulders of the agent.

[Segoris]

This is why no one likes mountain time, seriously, fuck mountain time. Though, considering the horseshoe the Broncos' front office has up their ass, I think they'll be fine and likely still be able to get him back somehow. If not, how awful of a situation are you in when your back up choices are Abraham or Freeney.

On the other hand, based on how free agency has been this week, Sea may have another pass rusher soon

[sickrubik]

The problem is that we eat the $5M dead money hit now.

Basically, there was a $4,869,000 dead money hit associated with Dumervil for 2013's cap. The restructure was going to push that money into later years as Guaranteed Money.

However, to protect themselves from the $12M pay hit, and going over the cap, the broncos had to cut Dumervil at the deadline.

So, to get back to where they SHOULD have been with the deal, they would have to sign Dumervil at 3,131,000, and then Dumervil (assuming he had no involvement and wants back on the Broncos) would sue the agent or collect some inuserance that agents are mandated to carry by the NFLPA.

[Segoris]

Yeah, which sucks but considering he was willing to take a huge paycut to stay with Den I am guessing some magic of him taking even less (like $3mil) with promise of making some of that up later may be possible when other top talent pass rushers are signing for $5-8/yr. Depends how badly he wants to stay in Den of course, and how much his new agent will want when he finds one 

Though, admittedly and obviously, I'm not completely up to par on the inner workings of caps and then the liklihood of him wanting to take that much less than what he's worth isn't likely.

[Paelos]

Wow fucking paperwork fail. That's gloriously bad from a front office.

It is NOT the front office.

The situation was on the shoulders of the agent.

It sounds like a bit of both, tbh. The agent is at fault at the very end, but they both strung this thing out to the last minute.

[sickrubik]

Wow fucking paperwork fail. That's gloriously bad from a front office.

It is NOT the front office.

The situation was on the shoulders of the agent.

It sounds like a bit of both, tbh. The agent is at fault at the very end, but they both strung this thing out to the last minute.

No. The Broncos gave them the deadline of 1PM mountain. The Broncos began to look at new options seriously as that deadline passed. At 1:25 broncos heard that there was a verbal agreement, and sent the new contract to the agent. Agent did not get it back to them until 1:59. There is a window between 1:25 and 1:59, but broncos had set that deadline of 1PM. This is on the agent. Broncos did not drag their feat when this all unfolded. They were preparing for Life After Dumervil.

Edit: Mind you, if we look at the bigger picture, both could have sorted this out, I think. But Broncos set a firm "Accept it or walk" offer with a deadline.

[Paelos]

Things went on for a week. 

[sickrubik]

Things went on for a week.  

That's what the edit on my post above is for. There is an allowance that there is room for 2 months that they could have hopefully worked something out.  Both sides had moved closer over the last week. Broncos finally yesterday said "here it is. this is it" and set the deadline at 1pm. The agent came back AFTER that, but at that point the broncos moved fast, from everything we know. If they had wanted to cut him and move on, they could have just done that and be where they are now.

You said up there that ultimately it is on the agent, I am just emphasizing that part of it and relating the info, being the one following along with it.

Edit: NFL.com reporting a faulty fax machine possibly involved. I think we can agree here though.. WHY ARE WE STILL USING FAXES.

Edit 2: And of course, lots of he said she said/hearsay going on now. Andrew Brandt: Talked to another team exec who talked to agent, who says Denver didn't send to new contract to him until 8 mins before deadline.

[sickrubik]

Jennings now a Viking.

[Paelos]

In a case of he said, she said, a sports agent has just as much credibility as a convicted murderer.

[HaemishM]

Jennings to the Viking is probably the worst case scenario of losing Jennings. I guess he wants to show the Packers what they were missing, though I think he's going to hate life about mid-season if Ponder doesn't improve his consistency. It's a good move for the Vikings, but I'm not so sure how the Metrodome is going to be on his legs. I was prepared to live life without Jennings as our next 3 receivers on the depth chart have All-Pro talent, IMO. I just didn't want him going to a division rival.

[Paelos]

That's another good player who's giving the finger to the Pack by wearing the purple. Doesn't come off well for the organization or the players.

[HaemishM]

Not really. I think most players know the deal with the Packers. They aren't going to pay huge salaries to most non-QB's. They are going to build young talent through the draft. You play for the Pack, you have a chance at yearly trips to the playoffs and maybe a Super Bowl, after which you can cash in at the place that will overpay you but you might never win again. It's not like they are Hobo Bill'ing people.

[sickrubik]

i mean, the packers relied SO MUCH on Jennings this year.... oh wait...

[Rasix]

I guess he's tired of having to actually catch a pass. Ponder is awful.

[Nebu]

I guess he's tired of having to actually catch pass. Ponder is awful.

Ponder is young and inexperienced.  I think the kid has potential.  That's different from Fitzpatrick and Tebow who ARE awful. 

[HaemishM]

I think Ponder can be a good QB with some weapons. He seems to have a certain calm in the pocket when he's getting rushed. He needs to cut down on the INT's, up the completion percentage and be more consistent, but it's not like he's Blaine Gabbert level of fail. Not yet anyway.

[sickrubik]

In case you missed it, the Niners now have 15 picks in this draft.

[Nebu]

In case you missed it, the Niners now have 15 picks in this draft.

... and 10 of them will either be cut or placed on the practice squad.

[HaemishM]

I imagine they might do some horse trading at the draft. And let's face it, if they do use all 15 and only 5 of them make the roster, that's still a pretty good percentage. I read an article analyzing the Packers' draft of 2009 and of them, only 3 were still on the roster for last year - but 2 of those 3 were Clay Matthews and BJ Raji, pro bowlers and Super Bowl vets winners now. I imagine if the Niners got that level of quality out of their draft, they'd be happy.