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Reply #70 on: March 07, 2013, 12:43:09 PM

It's worth it to hit the deck in some aircraft that perform better down there.  It's also useful in arcade domination maps where you want to gain stupid speed right off the bat and meet the cappers at their "safe" base.

Personally, I do cap airfields if I see an opening where nobody has an easy line on me. It's pretty easy to at the very least uncap it without ever slowing down and get the hell out of there again, and uncapping is practically as good as fully capping. I need to upload the picture of my spitfire going for a cap while badly damaged. Hit the ground at a shit angle, lost my landing gear and engine. Spun around a bit and came to a rest flat on the runway.. and got a safe landing bonus and a repair timer instead of a respawn timer. What the hell, magical repair gnomes.
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Reply #71 on: March 07, 2013, 02:22:14 PM

The Eve Online iteration of Bat Country play this all the time on our TS server when there's no fleets running. Second only to LoL right now I'd guess.

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Reply #72 on: March 07, 2013, 02:23:01 PM

That said I'm still only level five :(

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Reply #73 on: March 07, 2013, 03:10:04 PM

Endie, what's your stance on Star Conflict?

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Reply #74 on: March 07, 2013, 05:28:25 PM

Gack I haven't hit repair timers last night.

Don't cap airfields, let other suckers do it for you. Your just asking to get strafed doing that. I only land to get repairs.

I'm amazed by the sheer number of players who dive to the deck and can't wait to get into a turn fight. I was a shitty pilot on ww2ol but even I know better. Was racking up some nice kdr numbers last night.

I like to win, so I cap airfields while my oblivious teammates play grabass with the enemies in the middle of the map. It is a good use for bombers  on domination maps after all the ground targets are gone (so, like 3 minutes in).

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Reply #75 on: March 07, 2013, 08:10:03 PM

Played this for a bit and it's too arcade for my tastes.  I think I prefer that 'other' flying game in beta. 

Time to give Star Conflict a try. 

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Reply #76 on: March 07, 2013, 09:44:39 PM

Gack I haven't hit repair timers last night.

Don't cap airfields, let other suckers do it for you. Your just asking to get strafed doing that. I only land to get repairs.

I'm amazed by the sheer number of players who dive to the deck and can't wait to get into a turn fight. I was a shitty pilot on ww2ol but even I know better. Was racking up some nice kdr numbers last night.

I like to win, so I cap airfields while my oblivious teammates play grabass with the enemies in the middle of the map. It is a good use for bombers  on domination maps after all the ground targets are gone (so, like 3 minutes in).


Must admit my experience has been a lot different with most of my teams heading to cap the airfields instead of one or two. So I just loiter and blow up the low and slow stuff.

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Reply #77 on: March 08, 2013, 02:29:00 AM

Played this for a bit and it's too arcade for my tastes.  I think I prefer that 'other' flying game in beta. 

Time to give Star Conflict a try. 

Did you give Full-Real-Battles a try? Or Historical Battles? If not, there's your sim. If you did I'm not sure what the other game would have to offer you that is *more* realistic than those 2 modes.

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Reply #78 on: March 08, 2013, 07:50:01 AM

If you did I'm not sure what the other game would have to offer you that is *more* realistic than those 2 modes.

The planes are too responsive.  There's no feel of weight or drag to them.  Does this change?  The game feels way too twitchy for what I'm used to in flight models. Even with the sensitivity turned way down on my stick and rudder there was far too fast a response in my controls.

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Reply #79 on: March 08, 2013, 10:30:11 AM

If you're talking about that feel of actually being in a physical vehicle, I think the only sim to do that successfully was IL-2. Not even MS or X-Plane capture that feel correctly. With a f2p game that's trying for mass appeal, chances are this isn't ever going to be worked in. There's a sense of -work- in IL-2 that can actually be kinda physically draining. The g-forces have such an immersive realism that the blackouts kinda make me queasy. I think that for a business model like WT, that's not an wise choice, since it stands a good chance of alienating 2/3rds of the player base.

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Reply #80 on: March 08, 2013, 10:37:20 AM

If you're talking about that feel of actually being in a physical vehicle, I think the only sim to do that successfully was IL-2. Not even MS or X-Plane capture that feel correctly. With a f2p game that's trying for mass appeal, chances are this isn't ever going to be worked in. There's a sense of -work- in IL-2 that can actually be kinda physically draining. The g-forces have such an immersive realism that the blackouts kinda make me queasy. I think that for a business model like WT, that's not an wise choice, since it stands a good chance of alienating 2/3rds of the player base.

I agree with you completely.  I was more pointing out that I gave it a try and it's not for me. Perhaps I should just refrain from comment in the future... I'm not adding much to the thread.
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Reply #81 on: March 08, 2013, 10:59:26 AM

If you did I'm not sure what the other game would have to offer you that is *more* realistic than those 2 modes.

The planes are too responsive.  There's no feel of weight or drag to them.  Does this change?  The game feels way too twitchy for what I'm used to in flight models. Even with the sensitivity turned way down on my stick and rudder there was far too fast a response in my controls.

I've said this in voice chat a few times. The planes don't...drift through the sky like they should. It feels like there is no gravity or air resistance.

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Reply #82 on: March 08, 2013, 07:32:47 PM

If you're talking about that feel of actually being in a physical vehicle, I think the only sim to do that successfully was IL-2. Not even MS or X-Plane capture that feel correctly. With a f2p game that's trying for mass appeal, chances are this isn't ever going to be worked in. There's a sense of -work- in IL-2 that can actually be kinda physically draining. The g-forces have such an immersive realism that the blackouts kinda make me queasy. I think that for a business model like WT, that's not an wise choice, since it stands a good chance of alienating 2/3rds of the player base.

I agree with you completely.  I was more pointing out that I gave it a try and it's not for me. Perhaps I should just refrain from comment in the future... I'm not adding much to the thread.

I by no means meant to tell you to stfu or anything! I think this thread should include any kind of comments regarding flight sims or flight models in general, since there's not a whole lot of conversation on that topic as it is.

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Reply #83 on: March 10, 2013, 01:35:33 AM

If you're talking about that feel of actually being in a physical vehicle, I think the only sim to do that successfully was IL-2.

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Reply #84 on: March 10, 2013, 04:49:40 AM

Me and 3 friends installed this yesterday and had a play. Within 30 mins we all had our wallets out and had dumped some Euros on it. Lot of fun.

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Reply #85 on: March 10, 2013, 01:55:27 PM

Got my own Beaufighter today. First few battles I was like  swamp poop then I realised the power of the cannon and I was  Heart.

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Reply #86 on: March 10, 2013, 04:07:57 PM

If you did I'm not sure what the other game would have to offer you that is *more* realistic than those 2 modes.

The planes are too responsive.  There's no feel of weight or drag to them.  Does this change?  The game feels way too twitchy for what I'm used to in flight models. Even with the sensitivity turned way down on my stick and rudder there was far too fast a response in my controls.

We may have some differences in what we both mean by feeling drag etc, but trying to handle a Typhoon with 2 500lb bombs under the wings while dodging AAA and 109s in istorical Battles is all I can handle. It's like flying a mule. Completely changes once the bombs are dropped and you actually get to energy-fight.

Maybe give it till Rank 5 and then a few Fullreals and Historicals?

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Reply #87 on: March 10, 2013, 04:45:34 PM

Played a full-real without a stick. Rammed my cockpit into another player while trying to take off.  ACK!awesome, for real

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Reply #88 on: March 11, 2013, 01:42:56 PM

A lot of the pilots from my old ww2ol squad felt the same way about the game. They HATED arcade mode but were somewhat satisifed with historical and real battle modes.

Personally I love arcade mode, yes I want a radar and an aiming reticule and third person view. Too many years of trying to fly in ww2ol and getting crushed by guys who loiter at 10k feet with their full joystick and foot rudder setup and probably a set of flying goggles as well. Fuck. That.

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Reply #89 on: March 11, 2013, 01:49:08 PM

A lot of the pilots from my old ww2ol squad felt the same way about the game. They HATED arcade mode but were somewhat satisifed with historical and real battle modes.

Personally I love arcade mode, yes I want a radar and an aiming reticule and third person view. Too many years of trying to fly in ww2ol and getting crushed by guys who loiter at 10k feet with their full joystick and foot rudder setup and probably a set of flying goggles as well. Fuck. That.

Don't you dare make fun of my rudder pedals and trackir!  why so serious?

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Reply #90 on: March 11, 2013, 02:20:20 PM

Don't lie you put on the goggles and one of those white scarfs too don't you!

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Reply #91 on: March 11, 2013, 02:38:34 PM

Don't lie you put on the goggles and one of those white scarfs too don't you!

... and a fan.  Don't forget the fan!

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Reply #92 on: March 11, 2013, 05:54:23 PM

Had a 36k XP loss today.  Ohhhhh, I see. 17 ground kills (including 2 destroyers), and 8 air kills. Apparently my team was too busy licking their cockpit windows clean to help.

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Reply #93 on: March 11, 2013, 08:35:39 PM

Ok, noob question but the fuck do I land and take off again?  I know how to lower the landing gear and adjust the flaps but thats it.  I always end up crashing.  I'm actually doing fairly well in most other aspects of the game except for bombers.  I hate flying them.  I my best effort so far yielded 12 kills and now usually I'm around 5 or 6, often with 1 or no planes lost.
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Reply #94 on: March 11, 2013, 08:38:08 PM

Got my own Beaufighter today. First few battles I was like  swamp poop then I realised the power of the cannon and I was  Heart.

Thing turns like a pig but one bursting blenheims is fun.

I got mine yesterday and it is fun.  One burst and I obliterated a fighter. Heart
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Reply #95 on: March 11, 2013, 10:22:28 PM

Ginaz, try this to land, on approach turn side to side while pulling back to bleed speed, you want to be somewhere between 120 -250km. Once on the strip turn side to side while holding B button to brake. Takes a while to get the feel for it, but not too bad once there.

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Reply #96 on: March 12, 2013, 01:41:25 AM

Landing is overrated. Yesterday I smacked into the runway, snapped off both wings, caught fire, turned upside down and got 1000xp for a "soft landing".  awesome, for real

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Reply #97 on: March 12, 2013, 11:11:09 AM

Don't even try if you are going over 220 or so. My fav way to do it is to approach parallel to the strip, killing my engine and putting my flaps down. At the end of the runway, flip around and land going the other way. That almost always bleeds off enough speed.

It is a good skill to learn- capping bases is lucrative as hell, and getting free repairs is invaluable.

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Reply #98 on: March 12, 2013, 12:51:32 PM

Depends on the plane Way. Some planes will pancake if they're going too slow. Higher speeds seem even necessary if you're chassis is fucked up, in order to gently place weight on the structure of the plane as it touches down.

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Reply #99 on: March 13, 2013, 02:14:26 AM

 Heart your avatar Engels.

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Reply #100 on: March 14, 2013, 12:15:27 PM

This game is in dire need of more players or a patch or something. Getting oneshotted by planes 5 or more tiers above the highest thing I have in the match is seriously getting old.

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Reply #101 on: March 15, 2013, 03:43:56 AM

This game is in dire need of more players or a patch or something. Getting oneshotted by planes 5 or more tiers above the highest thing I have in the match is seriously getting old.

Fly something with cannons, you can one-shot people then.

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Reply #102 on: March 15, 2013, 01:04:26 PM

Tough to do in the 0-4 bracket.

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Reply #103 on: March 15, 2013, 05:58:58 PM

Japanese have at least one.

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Reply #104 on: March 15, 2013, 08:22:18 PM

Tough to do in the 0-4 bracket.
Fly something with 6-8 Brownings or Hispanos (i.e. something British) then set the gun convergence to ~400m.
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