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Reply #350 on: April 04, 2020, 11:02:55 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a new edition of Rocksmith since the next generation of consoles is coming this year (in theory). Seems like it would be a good time to put out a Rocksmith game that doesn't have 2014 in the title.
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Reply #351 on: July 15, 2020, 06:55:06 AM

Apparently there was some drama with a DLC creator that ended up with more drama and maybe a ton of CDLC: https://www.reddit.com/r/rocksmith/comments/hr4lqp/laceyb_never_existed_an_absolute_madlad_uploaded/

I'd be mighty careful with the download, but it seems to be legit from the comments.

tldr: fake account fake suicide real CDLC (like 14GB)
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Reply #352 on: April 20, 2021, 11:36:03 AM

So I'm slowly getting more involved with the Rocksmith community, my main barrier being I generally just want to drink a beer and jam, not fuck around with a computer  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Check out RSMods, it's a nifty utility for the game that does a bunch of cool stuff. One nifty feature is that you can connect a Digitech Whammy DT pedal and using RSMods (somehow, I haven't done it yet because I'm poor again heh)...it will pull the tuning information from the song meta and apply it through the Whammy DT. Meaning no more retuning for those D Standard jams! Not sure if it would distort too much for the C# Standard stuff on bass, but having easier access to alternately tuned DLC is attractive for me (I'm lazy af).

Another one is the CF Song Manager, this tool can fix a ton of stuff with CDLC and update the older DLC to more modern conventions. Fixes a few bugs, as well.

A caveat: don't let your song library go over 2000 songs, it will start getting unstable. I'm getting close now and have to actually take notes on who I need to vote off the island to make room for new stuff!
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Reply #353 on: June 12, 2021, 08:56:03 AM

i got an email today from Epiphone (the Les Paul I bought years ago was an Epiphone) and it revealed what I guess is the next Rocksmith project - ROCKSMITH+. From what I can gather from the email, it's:

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Over the past 10 years, nearly 5 million people have learned how to play guitar and bass using the award-winning Rocksmith Method. Now they’re making it even easier with Rocksmith+, an interactive music learning subscription service that takes the guesswork out of music mastery. This new version also lets you rock out with your favorite Gibson, Epiphone, and Kramer models.
 
Even the world’s premier music learning software needs fine-tuning. So they’re inviting you to test it out free and make Rocksmith+ even better. Pick up your acoustic, electric, or bass guitar, and register for the Rocksmith+ PC closed beta today, where you’ll get early access to exclusive features like:
 
Realtime Feedback - Connect your instrument for accurate note detection
Riff Repeater - Control song speeds so you can practice at your own pace

So a subscription Rocksmith live service. I'm not sure how to feel about that. What's worse is that the email tells me I can sign up for the Closed Beta but all the clicks just take me to Ubisoft's home page.
An Expansive Library - Choose from a vast and ever-growing library of songs

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Reply #354 on: June 12, 2021, 09:46:08 AM

YUP we've been talking about it on the subreddit, some still of the gif here: https://theriffrepeater.com/leak-gibson-email-confirms-new-rocksmith-closed-beta/

TAB VIEW!!!! I hope it doesn't suck, because I've been pretty vocal about it for years, heh.

If they do the subscription correctly, it's genius. What I wrote over there:

If they're opening up that huge catalog and adding weekly DLC packs, it makes a great deal of sense.

I have an old pal who picked up bass (he's a percussionist) and Rocksmith. He only ended up with maybe 20 hours /played, and a bunch of those were with me co-op on guitar. It was cool but not very cool...because he had NO DLC. It's a dramatically different experience.

Expecting him to amass thousands of songs like some of us do (bwahahha) is unrealistic. However, I could see someone like that picking up a sub and getting into the game.

As long as purchased DLC is still a thing, old DLC is still supported, and CDLC still works, I am excited for the prospect of a subscription service for those who need or want it.
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Reply #355 on: June 12, 2021, 10:58:34 AM

Being that it's Ubisoft, I'm not sure hopeful they are going to allow CDLC stuff on the sub service. Just based on their recent track record, it seems more like a way to close off the ecosystem and get a sub fee.

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Reply #356 on: June 12, 2021, 02:19:47 PM

New features in Rocksmith+: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DngQ2d4QNs

Might want to just listen if you are the type of person to get easily distracted by people who wildly gesticulate with their hands on every syllable spoken.

Also, mostly useless trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNf_H2qHsA
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Reply #357 on: June 12, 2021, 02:38:24 PM

Being that it's Ubisoft, I'm not sure hopeful they are going to allow CDLC stuff on the sub service. Just based on their recent track record, it seems more like a way to close off the ecosystem and get a sub fee.
Yes, this is an always-online game so it would be very easy for them to prevent non-authorized songs and arrangements (it has a built in arranger for licensed songs) from showing up in your library.

Scroll down to the FAQ section and question "Can I Play Rocksmith+ Offline?":

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/rocksmith/plus/game-detail
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Reply #358 on: June 12, 2021, 08:22:40 PM

$15 a month, always online, won't be able to add new songs (so no customs).

That's most likely a no for me.

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Reply #359 on: June 13, 2021, 09:03:54 AM

Yeah, hard pass and let's hope they don't retroactively nuke 2014. My current plan is to keep my old gaming pc off the Internet and use that as a RS2014 CDLC machine. Even if they shut down the forge tomorrow, I've got a comfortable amount of songs (and I've likely spent more on DLC than pretty much any sane person...which creates some salt right about now).

Also, since the game already has latency issues, the fact that they say the 1st way to connect your guitar is by using your phone's mic...ye gods. This smacks of a game developed in a legalized weed state during a lockdown.

According to a CDLC tracker with access to the tool, they like it but have already complained about not being able to share charts. He didn't get specific, and I think that given the level of access there is definitely some koolaid drinking happening at the top of the RS community right now (apparently the top charters/tubers have been working directly with the team on the tool). Apparently charting at UbiSF is going to be first pass by AI, then fixed by hand...that's another route to 'millions' of songs...

THAT SAID, there does seem to be some upsides to the new tool, due to the licensing changing (allegedly) to per-label, instead of per-song/artist. Because the tool would have access to (ostensibly) any song from that label, which can be massive (which is why they're touting millions of songs). Downside is that also means large black holes in licensing, and expiring deals without purchase means tracks disappearing.

Still seems more downside than up, given that even the folks deep in koolaid keep asterisking and parenthesizing nuggets of shit in their manna.
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Reply #360 on: June 13, 2021, 09:44:33 AM

THAT SAID, there does seem to be some upsides to the new tool, due to the licensing changing (allegedly) to per-label, instead of per-song/artist.

That smacks of "artists getting fucked out of royalties again" to me. Hope I'm wrong but it's Ubisoft and record labels, neither of which have any sort of positive track record on which to base a benefit of the doubt.

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Reply #361 on: June 13, 2021, 07:33:07 PM

I'm not super happy about the subscription stuff but there does seem to be some pretty cool additions here, particularly for people just starting out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZ4zQ03zGI

Like the Note by Note thing one of the beta testers here tries around the 8:16 mark should be incredibly helpful.
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Reply #362 on: June 16, 2021, 06:06:45 AM

Ok, initial drama phase over. Watching a bunch of beta stuff from some tubers I've watched in 2014, I'm....interested. There's still a lot I'm not a huge fan of, and some of the stuff I like needs tweaking (in tab mode, stationary playhead one bar in, with scrolling tabs, and I'd like to see maybe even 4 staffs onscreen at once for the look-ahead (I'm a shape-based reader, so scanning ahead for shapes helps me a ton!).

Anyway, I still think licensing will be a mess, I already hate the crowds being removed completely. I liked RS1's crowds/venues/encores and wish that the 'other' half of the target demo would get some love. The learners are getting a ton of stuff and while the tab mode is great for experienced players, the ability to chart is cool but also kinda feels like crowdsourcing, but the whole way a lot of us play is just plugging in and running through a setlist...and having the crowd reaction was a far better feedback than the score, because that's how you actually gauge how well you're playing /to the room/, which has been completely removed.

But I'll still be checking my inbox multiple times a day for that beta invite. I'm happy to have my offline CDLC box as a backup, but ready to see what the new world brings.
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Reply #363 on: June 24, 2021, 09:43:51 AM

NGL, after wrestling with several pieces of janky software trying to import sketchy pdfs of tabs in an effort to make RS2014 CDLC, this is something I'm /very/ interested in...

Quick overview of Rocksmith Workshop
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Reply #364 on: June 28, 2021, 07:03:54 AM

BTW, I know a few of you have Rocksmith (and you should really be jamming more!). With RS+'s changes to licensing, there's a pretty good chance it's going to gut a lot of the available CDLC. The customs forge that hosts the db will not host any CDLC links that have an official counterpart (so if a song ends up in an official DLC pack, it gets delisted in the forge db). The new licensing seems to be a per-label deal (with individual artist holdouts, likely Metallica for example), so that's potentially swaths of content going away soon(ish, likely releasing in a few months).

https://ignition4.customsforge.com/
https://customsforge.com/index.php?/topic/901-how-to-use-custom-dlcs-in-rs2014-remastered/

I'm a strong supporter of official DLC, but adding in CDLC is the difference between playing RS2014 with or without any DLC. Like I was at a buddy's house and we're stuck playing the handful of decent tracks that came with the game, but...meh. Meanwhile, I could log into my account and bam there are a few hundred songs we actually like. With CDLC, it's a few thousand, and the playing experience opens up significantly. Can't stress enough how cool it is to have this tool as a musician with no will to mess around with putting a band together, while still getting my jam on in a relatively frictionless way: I plug in my guitar, boot up the game, and play. I know there are other options for this kind of thing, some are cheaper (though with a steam sale and CDLC, not really), but the ease of use and quality of the RS experience is well worth it.

(this post brought to you by me pushing a copy of Cherub Rock to Haemmy...why do you hate free music bro  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?)
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Reply #365 on: July 01, 2021, 06:33:17 AM

If you want an invite to the RS+ beta, we need to friend up on the dopey Ubi Connect thingy so I can shoot you an invite. CashWiley on there, but let me know if your handle isn't the same as here so I don't just dismiss the request out of hand :D

I expect to be bitching a lot soon  why so serious? (just got my invite a couple minutes ago)
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Reply #366 on: July 01, 2021, 08:57:34 PM

Went ahead and sent a request.
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Reply #367 on: July 02, 2021, 09:21:25 AM

Went ahead and sent a request.
Invite sent. One more left!

Going to take a while to get used to the new version, and they've got a lot of things to change imo, but the actual experience of playing and sound quality are improved. It's mostly user interface stuff that needs work (the options and menus). I generated a page of notes and only played 2 songs in the 30-40 minutes I played last night.
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Reply #368 on: July 02, 2021, 12:36:05 PM

Much obliged, downloading now!
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Reply #369 on: July 02, 2021, 02:59:48 PM

Odd selection of music so far. I get that it's in beta so they probably don't have or need all the licensing in place right now, and also that they seem to be going for a more expansive selection of genres, but the Fresh Prince theme song?
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Reply #370 on: July 06, 2021, 05:45:59 AM

You don't like playing Will Smith's mouth?

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Reply #371 on: July 07, 2021, 06:35:45 AM

Song selection is slim thus far and for bassists it's...ehh.... Ohhhhh, I see.

I've been playing a lot of Barracuda during testing. And I have a couple pages of notes going. That said, there are a number of tangible improvements in sound.

One of my favorite notes is 'if you don't license the MCA catalog, don't include Skynyrd'  why so serious? But most of it is UI stuff and some missing features from previous versions. When 2014 released, it was a similar deal, when Remastered was released they cleaned up a lot of the problems. So I do have some confidence in the team in general, but there are some real headscratchers rn.

Also, I won the weekly no-prize contest against a few other bassists playing The Trooper (mostly because I played it in Master mode without any tabs because I've actually played it in front of humans for earth dollars heh).

If you check out the RS+ discord, there are a handful of devs that hang out there. Though the one that was on yesterday gave me the usual engineer blow-off of 'well, technically you can do that, so case closed' without addressing that it's like a 5 click interaction now vs a 2 click previously...and also I was talking about integrating the feature directly into the main play window (scrubbing the track, hyperactivity+silent periods es no bueno).
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Reply #372 on: July 07, 2021, 09:54:18 AM

I think right now the major issue I have is the streaming service style layout of song selection. Here's a row of new arrivals. Here's a list of songs we think you'll like. Here's songs for beginners. Here's some random learning videos, what's trending in your area, and what's trending worldwide. I have to go down a page or two to get to everything sorted by tuning, and then even if you expand the view so you aren't just side scrolling through selections they still don't list everything in alphabetical order.
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Reply #373 on: July 07, 2021, 11:21:46 AM

Use the Search, uhh, tab? at the top to filter. I use that as my fill-in for the old Learn to Play, filtering by E Standard and Bass, search for an empty string to return all valid hits. This still sucks because it resets every time you exit the game, doesn't sort results, resets your position every time you exit a song, shuffles the list randomly every time (see: doesn't sort), and is built to be navigated with a mouse (as is the entire new UI) and I play RS with a keyboard (so I can quickly navigate while standing up and playing, it's on a music stand at navel level). Oh, and if you've navigated 20 pages down with the keyboard, you have to up arrow through every row to get back to those tabs or whatever they call them at the top of the screen to navigate to another tabthing.

I 1000% hate the Netflix style UI, it's horrible. I never use recommendations or their quirky categorizations (in fact, I keep trying to cancel because I hate the UI (and lack of interesting content that I can actually find), but the old lady keeps convincing me to keep it. Anyway. Song cards carry no info (often the song title doesn't even fit) and no preview. Garbage for browsing, and I'm a browser (I often lobby for browser rights at the library lol). Imagine being on a console and having to type in searches all the time.

Problem is, I don't know that there is a ton they can do with the general browsing, if the intended model is to license entire label-level catalogs (the included Skynyrd stuff is from Capricorn, which bodes well for the Allman Brothers early material though). It's just that it sucks so bad right now. And it's hard to tell if it would be difficult short of having to search manually for songs, once the full catalogs are in, because they literally can't recommend anything to me right now because of the paucity of content. I wish the folks clamoring for beta slots (I still have 1 available for an f13er) could understand they shouldn't be in a hurry to get into the beta.

Even just having to type in band searches to filter by artist is a pain, because for me it's a one-handed control (I guess I play RS by porn rules). Not bad when I'm using arrow keys/pg up/dn/home/end/enter/esc for 99% of interactions. But they've gone so far into this UI, have a problem with their vision of 'millions' of songs, and I'm (as usual) a niche user.

My backup RS14 pc is still waiting patiently to be called to service. I'll likely sub to RS+ for new content (and I do like the sound pending the tone designer being added back in), but it's going to have to work hard to beat my trusty old workhorse.

To end on a slightly more positive note, tab view is pretty nice. It needs a lot of work, like most things, but as someone who lobbied for it for years, I'm happy it's in there to be worked on. The ability to read ahead farther than the note highway will reveal to you is amazing. As a sight-reader, the paucity of visual information in the note highway has always been irritating, I'm usually reading at least a staff ahead of the one I'm playing. On the downside, the implementation needs customization options, the notes themselves are too same-y when playing, as they all start to look like simple circles with difficult-to-read numbers. The sustains in tabs are distracting, too, so I'm hoping for options (like 'make it standard tab, just numbers thanks').

Since we all have extensive beta experience here, it may not surprise you that I pretty much expect we're playing something extremely close to the gold version.
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Reply #374 on: July 07, 2021, 12:11:50 PM

Yeah, I'm guessing this is pretty close to what the final game will look like, just with more content. Bass currently only has 6 lessons right now from what I can see (3 videos and 3 corresponding practice tracks). I expect there to be a lot more songs at launch obviously although that will also make the song selection UI even worse. I'm going to most likely just have to go through the list whenever songs are added and favorite stuff. Oddly, I just noticed there's a "My Saved Songs" section if you're on the Home page, but if you're on the Play page there isn't one. Now that I know where to look for it it's less of an issue but still a baffling choice. Also there's still no way to organize the section even after you expand it.

And yeah I tried the search thing before but as you mentioned it doesn't organize results, and as we get more songs in it's going to be a nightmare to even navigate that way. I hope at some point that can at least add a "sort A to Z" functionality in there. Also I don't expect to be getting any use out of Rocksmith Workshop, but it's odd to have it off in the settings.

Overall it's good, and I trust the developers to improve on the previous entries. Considering how long it's been since 2014 released (was actually a 2013 release) it still only feels like an incremental upgrade and obviously the subscription service vs. going the DLC route was the impetus for doing a new game at this point. If there's no cost for the game itself, I might toss them a year sub (which gets you an additional 3 months if you participate in the beta) and go from there. $99 for 15 months isn't terrible considering I'd otherwise be paying $60-70 for a game at this point plus however much I tended to spend on DLC for RS. Long term beyond that the value proposition is a little shakier but by then we'll know the strength of their post-launch support.
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Reply #375 on: July 08, 2021, 08:43:18 PM

I got into the beta tonight. I was not impressed. They somehow found a way to make the song selection UI even worse. The UI as a whole is much worse, including the way they portray the fretboard. I tried the tabs but I think I've been playing Rocksmith so long, I forgot how to play with tabs. The actual choice of songs is goddamn awful. If what I saw was any indication, it's going to be hell to find something decent to play for at least the first month, and if they don't have a much better selection by launch, I can't see paying $15 a month for this.

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Reply #376 on: July 08, 2021, 09:39:14 PM

I fully expect song selection to be much better by launch.
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Reply #377 on: July 09, 2021, 06:27:06 AM

The UI is getting shit on up and down the community. Because it's terrible. But as I said, the new way they're approaching licensing demands a new UI, and technically this one can accomodate the expected level of content...but it sucks. I don't envy this dev team right now.

They really bungled having a basically public beta with almost no songs. Tons of bitching from people who think beta is just a free preview. And ironically they tend to bitch on reddit, rather than the Ubi forum that devs monitor, so it's just shouting at clouds. But as far as testing, the only reason to boot into RS+ right now is testing, which I feel has to be negatively impacting the beta phase feedback. I don't want to play Barracuda much more because I don't want to burn out my ears on a song I actually enjoy. I guess I can play some Boston? Ye gods. I'm still playing RS14 when I want to jam. They're aware of the low level of content, which makes it even more bizarre. I want to mess around more with tab mode to get good feedback for them, but....

I have to wonder if the AI charting feature isn't working out well. They've hired on a much larger team of note trackers, and the job is supposed to be easier because the AI is supposed to do a good enough job that a human just has to go in an tweak the final results.
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Reply #378 on: July 18, 2021, 10:21:25 AM

Ye gods. "Beta"  this guy looks legit

I decided to dedicate the afternoon to getting a chart going in Workshop. Luckily I had been poking around the website reading the existing documentation prior to this. Unluckily, it doesn't tell you how to import a song into the workshop correctly (apparently that feature is not implemented correctly yet...). Is this stickied on the Workshop beta forum? Nah. Had to dig into threads, and there are many. Since it's documented incorrectly and there is no indication as to the workaround.

It's supposed to download in .rsw format, but right now it's downloading an .xml. Turns out you have to use the oldschool file menu to import this .xml (which I learned on the eighth thread I read on the forum). Threw up an error, but Workshop opened up. Can't play the music to the track, so eh I can't chart it. I try the 'preview' feature, which is supposed to open it in RS+ itself. It just throws up three letters on the screen and pfft that's it. Go back to Workshop, still no audio. Now RS+ is stuck on that 3-letter screen.

Ok, that's enough of that bullshit for a nice Sunday.

It's amazing these folks can even make a finished product, but I guess that remains to be seen. And I found the Skynyrd license was just Voodoo Records Endangered Species. It's nice, but I'm not wasting my time charting Saturday Night Special for some unplugged weird version from the 90s lineup, thanks. I did find Mississippi Queen, which I both can play from memory and have the actual tabs (in a book) for, so I figured maybe I'd make it easy (it's an easy tune on bass). But you can get some idea of where the licensing is using that search. I got no hits on the first dozen bands I wanted to chart, and it will only return search results (they apparently have gone full Google in hating sorted lists, which I despise). So I went with 'M' and scrolled through a bunch of garbage to find Mountain's tune (and the fanboys will mock you for not trying new music if you bitch about the lack of good songs).

I've tested so many shitty games since the Lum the Mad days, but few have been broken in so many fundamental ways as this one. If I bitch about it in Discord, I get a dismissive 'well just do this one undocumented thing you should have known about somehow'. Small wonder to see why they have a tight group of testers that have been working previously with the devs and the rest of the testers seem frustrated. Why the hell did they open up the beta to randoms like us before it was ready to be tested by randoms? Was the expectation that everyone should directly ask the devs how to do the most simple functions in discord in real time (they're not active on the forums at all, and the mods aren't stickying FAQs or solutions or really doing anything I can see).

I'm spending more time backfilling my CDLC folders than testing RS+.
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Reply #379 on: July 18, 2021, 12:27:29 PM

I've played it the one time and haven't felt much of a need to go back. Have they actually added more songs in the last 2-3 weeks?

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Reply #380 on: August 07, 2021, 10:37:00 PM

I've played it the one time and haven't felt much of a need to go back. Have they actually added more songs in the last 2-3 weeks?
Yeah but nah. That was an utter trainwreck of a test phase.

I picked up a digitech whammy dt (for half price), as I've been pondering it for a while now. You can load up RSMods which adds autotune support for the whammy dt via MIDI. Basically connect the pedal MIDI to USB and the game will send the pitch to the pedal.

A few downsides. It's a blanket pitch shift, not per-string. Open tunings are basically not supported (individual strings), and you do have to drop the low string for drop tunings (so E drop D can detune to D drop C or w/e). There's a bit of latency added and the more detuning, the sloppier the definition. D Standard is /ok/ and passable for Rocksmith purposes, going to give it a couple weeks to see if it bugs me too much.

It also uses the whammy side of the pedal for cent tuning (like something in E Standard but A430 rather than A440 concert pitch). This is huge for a lot of older recordings that didn't tune the album to concert.

Since it only seems to get squirrely down in the C# Standard range, that's the thin end of the catalog (I'm not /too/ much into modern downtune metal). It's pretty decent (again, for Rocksmith purposes) at Eb standard and those cent tunings, which fills out a ton of my catalog.

So while I'm still slightly on the fence, it's a damned cool setup and just kinda works. When you get prompted to retune, just skip the tuning, the pedal kicks on and you're in the correct tuning for whatever song comes up. Really nice not having to skip around or filter by tuning, and gave me much easier access to hundreds of tunes, if not thousands. Stopping to retune the entire instrument is a pretty big impediment to mixed tuning setlists!
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Reply #381 on: September 14, 2021, 09:57:37 AM

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/game/rocksmith/plus/news-updates/2rN7QW1RC4E4NsipNX1cz7/rocksmith-dev-diary-september-2021

tldr people had issues with the beta, release slips from summer 2021 to ?

Thank god, it needed a lot more work than they seemed to have expected. Which doesn't bode well that they didn't understand very fundamental things about their own game.
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Reply #382 on: September 14, 2021, 08:09:47 PM

You could see with the change in venues from 1 to 2014 that they didn't really understand their audience. Plus was just the worst UI and I told them so in the survey. 2014 wasn't a great interface but it was still better than that thing.

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Reply #383 on: September 15, 2021, 07:00:52 AM

That was the gist of my feedback. I didn't hold back, but I did write about why I was so scathing (I love the game and it's an almost essential part of my life at this point). They are definitely chasing a different audience, and the horrible twitch streamer debacle (they demo'd the game using non-guitar playing twitchtard gamers) show the vastness of that gap. It's Mike Richards/Miyam/Dr Oz hosting levels of disconnect with your audience.

That said, the audio engine is definitely better. Every little bit helps, especially since I put the pitch shifter into my signal chain. A lot hinges on the catalog in general, but I feel the workshop aspect is what will make or break it. I didn't really become the massive fan of Rocksmith until I really started digging into CDLC. I don't keep track, but it wouldn't surprise me if 80% or more of my usual setlists are CDLC. The biggest question is still what will be available in the workshop, since now fans can't just track whatever song they feel like, meaning there will still be massive holes in the library (except now things can be taken OUT of the library as licensing lapses).

My 2014 install isn't going anywhere, but I'm pretty likely to check out the release of RS+, just because I love playing bass using their system.
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Reply #384 on: September 17, 2021, 05:58:52 AM

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