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Reply #70 on: June 05, 2012, 09:43:25 PM

Stay out of prisons, rotate between the two health pits, and when you get to terror mode, do some kiting in between cooldowns.

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Reply #71 on: June 05, 2012, 10:28:37 PM

I'm 31.  Biggest problem is the fire aura that essentially drains my health to nothing that I can't exactly seem to do anything about.  I avoid the prisons pretty well and avoid the fire that branches out in a 360.
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Reply #72 on: June 05, 2012, 10:44:59 PM

So, shelving my Barbarian. Got to Hell mode, almost exclusively through co-op mode with some friends, and fuck it is simply not worth playing him any more. I had to dump all my fun moves and passives just to survive. Oh well, good thing I'm having a blast on my baby monk (who will likely suffer the same problems when I get to hell with him).

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Reply #73 on: June 05, 2012, 10:54:26 PM

Amazing how changing the passives and using war cries actually makes Diablo easy...  Down in the 2nd try.
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Reply #74 on: June 06, 2012, 07:28:35 AM

So I made it to Inferno with my barbarian. Upgarding your gear in the AH once in a while really makes the game trivially easy; I didn't die at all on Nightmare, and only a couple of times on Hell. But for some inexplicable reason I'm hooked. I mean, sure, it's nice to be able to progress without stopping at all - at least until now - but there really isn't anything at the end of the rainbow, and the fact that the game requires very little skill is sort of silly. Or is it/does it?

Anyway, I expect my enthusiasm to wither away soon. But that's not a big deal, since the ride thus far has easily been worth the cover price.

What got me here, mostly solo:

Frenzy (Sidearm)
Leap (Impact)
Wrath (Insanity)
Stomp (Smash)
Revenge (Provocation)
Earthquake (Mountains)
Nerves
Superstition
Brawler

The Wrath/Earthquake/Brawler combo from Kripparian's video made even the harder elite/champion packs easy to kill within seconds.

I haven't upgraded my gear since Act II/Hell and I've got 53k HP, 9.1k DPS and 6.2k armor unbuffed. I assume my resistances, or lack thereof, will get me murdered on Inferno.
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Reply #75 on: June 07, 2012, 12:10:02 AM

The Wrath/Earthquake/Brawler combo from Kripparian's video made even the harder elite/champion packs easy to kill within seconds.

I looked this up after reading this and watched a few of his vids. That combo is awesome! I spent 250k on a -13 level req dagger yesterday and then proceeded to take my barb from level 47 to 52 in about 2 hours with it. Hell elite/champ packs just *melt* when you pop Father Christmas & Earthquake together!

In fact, I wouldn't be overly surprised if it got nerfed soon :(

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Reply #76 on: June 09, 2012, 02:33:51 PM

it's nice to be able to progress without stopping at all - at least until now

I didn't start farming, just bought a bunch of upgrades, worth maybe 500k (while selling their predecessors for more) and did act one without any problems. My build is a bit more defense oriented, but wrath+earthquake still pretty much destorys elites and champions. I ended up clearing everything from Leoric's mansion to act two three times with five stacks of NV and the loot was all sorts of awesome.


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Reply #77 on: July 09, 2012, 01:15:13 PM

SO I started a HC barb, and up to level 30 it is by miles the fastest leveling and killing class I've played. I decided to go full balls DPS, with a little vitality.

Cleave (exploding people- 85% of huge crits is gibfest)
Seismic Slam - Extra damage and knockback

Ancient Spear - 3 spears
Leap - +armor
Battle Rage - +30 damage
Sprint - +dodge

Passive - Ruthless, Weapon Master, Bloodthirst

I use scoundrel with 3% crit buff.

(Bosses I switch Cleave to Frenzy, and spear or sprint to ignore pain)

I use 1H's , with main hand being Mace or Axe (with +crit damage). I run A Purple and green gem in them. My crit rate is at around 30% buffed, and the bonus crit damage is like 250% or something stupid.

Cleave with exploding things is insane. I just leap/sprint everywhere, spear/rage/seismic blast things. I cover a map so fast, and obliterate groups. I run +exp gear and a shiny red gem in my helm. Hit level 30 after 6 hours played. I think that's pretty strong.


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Reply #78 on: August 20, 2012, 06:10:50 PM

Got my resists to mid 500's with a couple in mid 600's without buffs.  Facerolling Act I now- looks like that last 50 points has made a humongous difference (I was solo'ing elites in a 4 man party left and right.  To the point my group would run and just let me crush some of the harder ones).

I think I am about ready for Act II.  Oh, and tried one of those fancy whirlwind insanity builds- but did not suit me.  I may go dual wield (but would need to uprade a couple pieces of gear to add the loss of resist from my shield).

Next stop- Act II and hopefully getting a nice upgrade to my 700 DPS weapon (s).

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #79 on: August 20, 2012, 06:14:49 PM

I went Sword and board through Act 2 recently, and now I can adequately farm it solo for gear.

Here's what I'm using so far. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Paelos-1244/hero/5141137

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Reply #80 on: August 20, 2012, 06:18:32 PM

I went Sword and board through Act 2 recently, and now I can adequately farm it solo for gear.

Here's what I'm using so far. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Paelos-1244/hero/5141137

I >think< I can dual wield it by upping my resist a bit with a couple pieces of gear I have stashed away.  My only concern is loss of armor and block- especially since I wield a 18% block shield at the moment.  If I can figure out how to get a URL for my dude will share shortly.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cheddar-1540/hero/6234329
« Last Edit: August 20, 2012, 06:24:33 PM by Cheddar »

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Reply #81 on: August 25, 2012, 05:55:31 PM

Switched back to shield for Act 2.  With my current gear I wtfpwn Act 1 as duel wield but a wee bit to squishy for Act 2. 

I mean, I can duel wield act 2, but death repair cost just isn't worth it.

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #82 on: August 25, 2012, 06:10:47 PM

DW becomes very possible if you can get 600 AR on the rest of your gear and a solid WW spec.

You'd need about 600 AR, 800+ vit, and 1500+ strength.

Also, crit damage has become really epic in the last patch. You'll see barbs stacking it now wherever they can within reason.

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Reply #83 on: August 25, 2012, 06:28:08 PM

DW becomes very possible if you can get 600 AR on the rest of your gear and a solid WW spec.

You'd need about 600 AR, 800+ vit, and 1500+ strength.

Also, crit damage has become really epic in the last patch. You'll see barbs stacking it now wherever they can within reason.

I can do it once I boost AR a little.  I was actually hanging in there- but a couple deaths here and there is just too expensive to keep it up (for now).

Huge part is I need a better weapon. 

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #84 on: June 13, 2013, 11:06:59 AM

Barbarian is so fun to play now. It's also apparently FOTM, because in every public game I'm playing in, it's the most common class.

I've seen a few others, demon hunters and witch doctors and wizards, maybe one monk.

I don't know what I'm doing in terms of mechanics and spec (cleave? I think and whirlwind and earthquake with fire and leap and something else), but I'm only in Nightmare so it doesn't really matter yet. It's very very fun to hulk smash.

Equipment wise, picking up things with str and vit, attack speed when I can, crit hit chance when I can, and life leech stuff. Using a one hand and a shield.

One thing is that I have gotten more legendaries on this character than any other. Either barbarians get a cheat on legendaries or the drop rate has been upped since last July. I had found 2 legendaries total when I quit last July. I found none on my 38 DH on the way to 60, none on my 58 wizard on my way to 60, none in Infernal on my WD (soloed to Diablo), but I have so far found 3 legendaries on my Barb who is now about level 40.

I have been playing more public games, maybe that's why?
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Reply #85 on: June 13, 2013, 11:54:23 AM

You do get a magic find bonus per group member since patch... whatever.


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Reply #86 on: June 14, 2013, 06:48:07 AM

Yeah, they've also upped it significantly.  None at all when I used to play the Bullshit version, about 5 now on the new patch.

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Reply #87 on: June 15, 2013, 09:49:31 AM

Picked up a pair of pants I can actually use! Hammer Jammers.

On to Hell level. First thing I realized is that I have to go steal someone's spec because whatever I'm doing now isn't working so well. 2k dps or so, things are dying slowly, and some things are killing me. Need to find the magic spec, since I don't have hundreds of millions of gold and I refuse to spend real money.
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Reply #88 on: June 15, 2013, 09:53:04 AM

Picked up a pair of pants I can actually use! Hammer Jammers.

On to Hell level. First thing I realized is that I have to go steal someone's spec because whatever I'm doing now isn't working so well. 2k dps or so, things are dying slowly, and some things are killing me. Need to find the magic spec, since I don't have hundreds of millions of gold and I refuse to spend real money.

Just to bring the tone a bit back to reality, less than 100k gold (which is a more than reasonable sum for somebody slogging around hell difficulty) should take care of hell quality upgrades for you to slaughter everything in hell. Hundreds of millions on hell level gear would be silly.

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Reply #89 on: June 15, 2013, 10:03:48 AM

I seem to have really good gear then, since replacing any of it really would seem to cost more than 100k. There is a heck of a lot more gear for 60s than 50; the closer I get to 60 the more choices I should have.

Probably my spec needs changing. Certainly my gear is as good as any of my other characters when I hit hell level, except maybe rings and amulet, which are expensive no matter the level.
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Reply #90 on: June 15, 2013, 10:31:16 AM

You can STILL pick up cheeky wee bargains if you look.  I recently purchased 3 items with Reduced Level Requirements for mere thousands.  These things are total dynamite and should sell for a fuckload more.

I agree that you don't need much money to get yourself a really kick ass kit before 60.  It's only once the sorta 'still levelling at 60' slog comes in that you get real inflation problems.

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Reply #91 on: June 17, 2013, 09:17:33 AM

I think level 50 gear is tougher to come by. There is so much cheap gear at 60, compared to what one can get at level 50. Actually the closer I got to 60 the cheaper the gear got, to a point.

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Reply #92 on: June 20, 2013, 09:57:59 AM

Barbarian is so fun to play now. It's also apparently FOTM, because in every public game I'm playing in, it's the most common class.

I've seen a few others, demon hunters and witch doctors and wizards, maybe one monk.

I don't know what I'm doing in terms of mechanics and spec (cleave? I think and whirlwind and earthquake with fire and leap and something else), but I'm only in Nightmare so it doesn't really matter yet. It's very very fun to hulk smash.

Equipment wise, picking up things with str and vit, attack speed when I can, crit hit chance when I can, and life leech stuff. Using a one hand and a shield.

One thing is that I have gotten more legendaries on this character than any other. Either barbarians get a cheat on legendaries or the drop rate has been upped since last July. I had found 2 legendaries total when I quit last July. I found none on my 38 DH on the way to 60, none on my 58 wizard on my way to 60, none in Infernal on my WD (soloed to Diablo), but I have so far found 3 legendaries on my Barb who is now about level 40.

I have been playing more public games, maybe that's why?

So I just played through inferno once on my wizard, and found 0 legendary/set items. Either my wizard has really bad luck or Barbarians have special luck, because I have found 8 legendary/set items on Barb just getting to 60 on her (no inferno play yet at all). Certainly seems suspicious, although maybe rng is just being random.
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Reply #93 on: June 20, 2013, 10:03:26 AM

I have games where legendaries drop 3 in a row in a matter of 2 hours, then go for 7 days seeing nothing.

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Reply #94 on: June 20, 2013, 10:04:19 AM

I think its bad luck. I all the time I've played my wizard I have found 5 legendary items. I have logged plenty of grind hours too.

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Reply #95 on: June 20, 2013, 11:29:42 AM

How do you actually set the different MP levels?
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Reply #96 on: June 20, 2013, 11:31:49 AM

How do you actually set the different MP levels?

You select it when you choose a quest.  I think you may have to turn it on in the settings somewhere for it to show up, because apparently blizzard thinks it would be too confusing for newbies or something.
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Reply #97 on: June 20, 2013, 11:38:21 AM

Yeah, make sure you've ticked the box in options.  While you're there, tick the box for 'advanced tooltips' also, so Blizzard doesn't treat you like the fucking clueless console dribbler that they think you are.


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Reply #98 on: June 20, 2013, 12:30:26 PM

Thanks guys.  I'm giving it one more try since I signed on yesterday and checked out the AH. I discovered that I can get way better equipment for not very much money. I've only got like 50k gold but I figure if I go through Act 4 Hell once or twice  I'll get enough money to do an equipment upgrade and maybe be able to survive in Inferno.

Unrelated side-note: When did "doesnt" lose it's apostrophe? Earlier I had the spellchecker complain when I spelled "doesn't" like I have been for like the last 45 years. Is this an American thing? Or is it some newfangled rule like not putting two spaces after a period? I checked dictionary.com and they seem to think both spellings are right when they clearly ARE NOT!! I'm outraged and shaking my cane at this point.
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Reply #99 on: June 20, 2013, 12:40:10 PM

Language and writing evolve.

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Reply #100 on: June 20, 2013, 12:42:19 PM

It also deteriorates.

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Reply #101 on: June 20, 2013, 12:58:31 PM

Man! They've stolen the apostrophes from "isn't" and "wasn't" too!  Thank God that "can't" has so far remained uncorrupted.
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Reply #102 on: June 20, 2013, 01:38:00 PM

I believe a revival of the pet peeves thread may be in order, especially since I agree.

Thanks guys.  I'm giving it one more try since I signed on yesterday and checked out the AH. I discovered that I can get way better equipment for not very much money. I've only got like 50k gold but I figure if I go through Act 4 Hell once or twice  I'll get enough money to do an equipment upgrade and maybe be able to survive in Inferno.

Just as a starting reference point - I did inferno on mp0 incredibly easily with a barb running 25-30k hp and about 65-70k dps with awful mitigation. So farming in Hell may not even be needed at all if you're over 20k hp and around 30k dps to get started in Act 1 Inferno at a comfortable level.
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Reply #103 on: June 20, 2013, 03:14:06 PM

I'll check that next time I'm on. I'd forgotten that they made Inferno easier a while back.
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Reply #104 on: June 20, 2013, 04:42:51 PM

If I were you, I wouldn't bother farming anything. There's a ton of cheap gear at 60 that is likely better than what you last played with a year ago. Buy some pieces and play public games. The drops are more frequent and the leveling is much faster.
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