2012 College Football

[Nebu]

I only see two elite teams in college this year: Alabama and Oregon.  I think every other team could take a hit from just about anyone if they allow a lapse in concentration. 

[ghost]

I'm still not sold on Oregon.  They have played a relatively light schedule.  We'll see how they respond with the USC/Stanford/Oregon State slate later in the year. 

[Rasix]

It won't be easy to get out of the PAC12 undefeated.  They'll stumble somewhere. 

[Nebu]

It won't be easy to get out of the PAC12 undefeated.  They'll stumble somewhere. 

Washington showed me that Stanford was overrated.  I also not convinced that USC could beat anyone in the top half of the SEC (and I'm not an SEC fan). 

[ghost]

I guess we'll see when they play.  USC is very, very tough at home and they are still stinging from the last defeat by Oregon (first ever I believe) in the Colosseum. 

[Nebu]

I guess we'll see when they play.  USC is very, very tough at home and they are still stinging from the last defeat by Oregon (first ever I believe) in the Colosseum. 

USC hasn't played anyone... Hawaii, Syracuse, and Cal?  Please.

[ghost]

I'm not disagreeing with your assessment of their national title chances and overall ranking.  They're just tough to beat at home.  And they have home run talent on offense. 

[WayAbvPar]

It won't be easy to get out of the PAC12 undefeated.  They'll stumble somewhere. 

Hopefully Saturday! I am going to have plenty of beer on hand as a backup plan, however.

[Paelos]

Washington's pass defense is questionable. That's my only issue with that matchup.

[ghost]

I'm giving UW a chance, but only if the game is at Washington.  They looked good against Stanford, but not good enough to beat the Ducks at home.  I'll be pulling for them, though.  I'm not a huge fan of Oregon.

[Paelos]

I think Washington, whom I do respect as a club and has played a better schedule so far, is going to get beat on the road, but they keep it under 2 TDs.

They've only scored 93 points in 4 games, which in that shootout league won't cut it. Also, the teams they've played so far haven't exactly been passing machines, including LSU who still put almost 200 yards on them through the air. Stanford, SD State, and LSU are all ranked 90 or above in passing yards.

Oregon isn't as good offensively as last year, at all. Their numbers are inflated by playing absolute crap.

[Nebu]

I think Washington, whom I do respect as a club and has played a better schedule so far, is going to get beat on the road, but they keep it under 2 TDs.

While I agree with you about everything else, I'd take this bet.  I don't think that Washington has the speed on the OLB's or the defensive backs to contain Oregon.  I predict that Oregon will beat Washington pretty soundly (by more than 14 points).

[ghost]

I predict that Oregon will beat Washington pretty soundly (by more than 14 points).

I, quite unfortunately, completely agree with this.   

[Paelos]

You could be right. I'm taking Washington getting 24.5, so there's a large gap between what I think and what Vegas will take action on 

Still, I think Oregon hasn't seen anything like Washington, nor has Washington seen anything like Oregon's attack. I give the edge to Washington only because Oregon is getting more yards on the ground than the air this year. If they run it like LSU, it's a rout. If they run it like Stanford...

[ghost]

Wow.  John L. Smith lists a total of 40.7 million dollars in debt now in his bankruptcy filings.  How the fuck did he get that in debt?  He was a head coach for roughly 17 years, certainly not making enough to even sniff that level of loans.  This all smells fishy to me.

[Paelos]

My guess is he was coerced to pick up real estate deals at the height of the market, and now it's all gone to shit. My other guess is that he did it through about 5-6 shell corporations.

It's not that uncommon. I have a client that's $78M in debt for similar problems.

EDIT: I read the filing. Unshockingly, I was correct. He owes $15M to BB&T and $20M to Terra Springs LLC, a company he was involved with that did land development in Louisville while he as the coach from 1998-2002. The market went south, he got burned, and his personal guarantee is on the $15M note related to Terra from BB&T.

He's also involved in several other shell corps, such as Terra Acquisition, Terra Ventures, and Beech Spring Farm, as well as an investment in a Texas Roadhouse.

[ghost]

It's not possible.

You can thank me later, Ab, preferably with a Movember donation.   

[Paelos]

Utah is running out of gas. Man it's close and their D is holding them in the game, but holy crap the penalties! 

[Abagadro]

Sigh. Spotted 14 and still can't get it done.

Refs sucked. Utah made some boneheaded mistakes. USC has much better talent in most positions. Game.

[Paelos]

It was a good game, and Utah thankfully covered. However, they deserved to win. They just aren't deep enough, and that illegal man downfield penalty to remove the bomb TD was a complete joke. I can't believe a ref would make that call.

[Paelos]

Alright, here's my upset pick for the weekend. Ghost will love this.

Kentucky upsets Mississippi State, and gets their first SEC win of the year.

[ghost]

You're fucking loony, Paelos.   

[Hoax]

UCLA is going to lose.

I really want to believe that ND might lose this weekend but I haven't seen more than a quarter of any of Miami's games so no idea if its possible.

[Ingmar]

I wish I could believe we'll beat UCLA. There's every chance that Cal goes 1-11 this season, with the 1 coming against a FCS school.

This is the worst team we've fielded since Tom Holmoe was the coach.

[Paelos]

You're fucking loony, Paelos.   

What's your upset pick, we'll see who gets one 

[ghost]

How about Miami over Notre Dame? 

[Paelos]

That's an interesting one, and would be huge as well. Let's roll the dice!

[Paelos]

Well I was hoping the new QB would provide some spark, and he did for Kentucky.

Then he gets injured, so yeah this game is toast. I'd have loved to see how it could have gone if Towles had been able to keep going. Whitlow is terrible.

EDIT: Also, Auburn? Wow. Worse than Arkansas.

[Rasix]

Rich Rod wtf. 1 min and two timeouts on the road? Play for OT.  Gaaaaaah.

[ghost]

Kentucky is in a bad spot.  They've been running a scheme that favors a drop back QB like Towles, yet they have a decent QB in Whitlow that is a dual threat guy.  Whitlow has been much better in practice, apparently, but let's be realistic.  The whole thing is a fucking dumpster fire.  They'll be lucky if Towles doesn't transfer.  That guy has some talent.

And......it looks like UGa is going to take it in the rump. 

[01101010]

WTB a serviceable QB. Fucking hell, why can't LSU actually field a quarterback worth anything? Good on FL for putting it in his hands and exposing LSU as 1 dimensional. Can we get Lee back please... /cry 

[Paelos]

UGA's offense finally gets exposed. Our offensive coordinator is still the same fucking moron who believes if you run it at them enough, eventually it will work.

Maybe if he looked at the stats before the game, he would have realized that SC's #7 in the nation in run defense. It's akin to just running it 60% of the time at Alabama and hoping you gain some ground. Good fucking luck.

The faster we can get rid of this ridiculously entrenched coaching staff, the better. It's been over a decade and we've been completely lapped by the rest of the SEC.

[01101010]

UGA's offense finally gets exposed. Our offensive coordinator is still the same fucking moron who believes if you run it at them enough, eventually it will work.

Maybe if he looked at the stats before the game, he would have realized that SC's #7 in the nation in run defense. It's akin to just running it 60% of the time at Alabama and hoping you gain some ground. Good fucking luck.

The faster we can get rid of this ridiculously entrenched coaching staff, the better. It's been over a decade and we've been completely lapped by the rest of the SEC.

At least you all have a QB.

And WTF Florida St?? 

[Hoax]

UCLA is going to lose.

*ahem*

Miami did get fucking rolled though.

[MisterNoisy]

At least you all have a QB.

And WTF Florida St?? 

As a Florida fan, this was just a great day of football all around.