DCSS 0.10

[Bann]

1.0 came out in the last month. WEBTILES!  

https://tiles.crawl.develz.org/#play-dcss-0.10

Here is a link to the wiki

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=CrawlWiki


*edit* XOMMMMMMMMMMM!

[tazelbain]

RIP Mountain dwarfs

The new races have been interesting.

[Slayerik]

I still enjoy this game a lot.

[Kitsune]

I've been playing this a fair bit since the latest patch and the tiled version is definitely better than ever.  Removing species and classes seems odd to me, however.  It's not like they needed to save space or anything; if someone wants to be a dwarf paladin, why stop them?  It's not like it hurts anybody else.

[tazelbain]

http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/whisper-farewell-when-you-leave-gimli
Less is more. Removing generic races is the way to go.

[koro]

A generic race that happened to be one of the most-played (if not the most-played) races. I never really played MDs aside from that MDFi that every newbie ends up playing at some point, but I don't see the reasons for their removal outweighing the reasons for them to stay.

But then again I cannot pretend to fathom the thought processes that occur inside the heads of Roguelike developers.

[Raging Turtle]

Love this game to death, even if I've never beaten it.  So many different ways to play it.

[Ingmar]

It seems kind of dumb at this point to have "deep dwarf" be a race when it is the only kind of dwarf. Just call it a dwarf?

[proudft]

I've never been able to get into this one for some reason.   Love Nethack, play Angband every couple of years, spent a fair amount of time in ADOM, but for some reason Crawl never really got its hooks into me, and I'm not really sure why.  I should give it another shot.

[ezrast]

DCSS pretty much killed ADoM (and by extension, other roguelikes) for me. Partially for the interface, and partially for the ability to be a maniac chucking bombs rendered form the corpses of my foes. Also still haven't beaten it.

That said, 0.10 != 1.0.

[Bann]

Cruel game. I'm a draconian fighter who has chugged 3 mutation potions found on the first 2 levels, and ended up with a not horrible set of mutations. ( + 1 str, better eyesight, poisonous barb on tail) on the 4th level of the dungeon, I come across brightly glowing platemail. Because Im a masochist, I blow an ID scroll on it. Its Platemail of the glowing stars (+7 ac, +1 str, RF+) For those non-crawlers, this is kinda like finding a world drop epic in wow that would be perfect for leveling your character... but then not being able to equip it do to racial restrictions. 

[Slayerik]

Love this game to death, even if I've never beaten it.  So many different ways to play it.

I find myself making some off the wall character/god combos that are fun as hell, but never really have what it takes to beat it. Came close once, I'll get it one of these days.

[Sky]

Pretty cool version of this genre.

Rolled a minotaur berserker to learn the ropes and promptly cursed my chest armor, weapon and ring by level 3. No bless in sight!  

Finally the lack of upgrades did me in:

4728 Komoto the Cleaver (level 10, -3/85 HPs)
Began as a Minotaur Berserker on Mar 21, 2012.
Was a High Priest of Trog.
Slain by a troll (11 damage)
... on Level 2 of the Orcish Mines on Mar 22, 2012.
The game lasted 02:52:05 (11882 turns).

Of course, I was on level 4 or 5 of the mines when I got jumped by 3 trolls, 2 rock trolls and an ogre. Even with an iron ogre and going berserk, and fighting a retrograde action...just couldn't take the hits or dish out any damage by that point.

[Raging Turtle]

Even though you can usually access the Orcish Mines first, it's generally a better idea to clear some or all of the Lair before doing so.  Especially if you have poison resistance... but bring something to deal with the hydras.

If you haven't checked it out, the wiki is really comprehensive, although not all the articles are updated to .10.

[Sky]

Problem wasn't the mines themselves, though that would've been a tough fight without much in the way of choke points, no heal pots, etc. It was that I was basically totally screwed with an almost complete set of cursed gear from level 2 :) There was some deep elf place with a knight that gave me some great gear I couldn't equip. I probably had a dozen glowing and runed weapons and a half dozen pieces of armor on me when I died.

I'm going to stay away from the wiki for as long as possible. More fun to blunder through and discover stuff imo. Actually, I had whittled down 2 trolls and an ogre moving up stairs and using Trog's buddies - when I died there was only one troll on me...so close.

[Slayerik]

I second the Orc Mines thing as something to go back to after about dungeon level 15. When you get to Orc 4 you'll know why.

Basic advice for scrolls, I always wait until I find either a cursed item or a weapon with a brand before I start trying them out. That way I don't waste weapon enchant scrolls and remove curse scroll won't just fizzle (Nothing appears to happen). I try on rings and amulets without id scrolls because many ID themselves, and have a low prob of being cursed.

In battle, when shit goes south sometimes it's best to just run for the stairs!

I like trying out wands on myself, out of combat.

[Sky]

Since it was my first game, I was just trying everything on everything! :)

Stairs were definitely key in a couple tough spots.

Fun game, I haven't played one of these in ages.

[Slayerik]

If you made it that far on your first run, good on ya (though zerkers are great, but a rage at the wrong time will get you dead). Say hi to Sigmund for me! ;)

[Sky]

Made it that far in non-magic cursed ring mail, a non-magic cursed axe (my other cursed items were at least magic!). Mino zerker is way OP early on, tons of hp and horn retaliation probably killed as much as my axe, especially down around level 8 when my axe was almost useless. Had a high piety rating and didn't rage too much so I could summon companions, which were really tactically useful.

On a non-thiefy type character, should I even bother looking for secret doors except in the most obvious spots? I wonder how much I passed in that run-through because I was only looking in really obvious spots (and did find a few). Seems like rations would've been an issue with all the time compression (sacrificing corpses rather than chopping them).

[Rendakor]

Just got the latest version and fired it up again. Anyone remember the trick to making this run windowed?

[Slayerik]

Made it that far in non-magic cursed ring mail, a non-magic cursed axe (my other cursed items were at least magic!). Mino zerker is way OP early on, tons of hp and horn retaliation probably killed as much as my axe, especially down around level 8 when my axe was almost useless. Had a high piety rating and didn't rage too much so I could summon companions, which were really tactically useful.

On a non-thiefy type character, should I even bother looking for secret doors except in the most obvious spots? I wonder how much I passed in that run-through because I was only looking in really obvious spots (and did find a few). Seems like rations would've been an issue with all the time compression (sacrificing corpses rather than chopping them).

I only search obvious spots, and never really felt like I've missed much by not training Traps and Doors (even after using magic mapping scrolls, the secrets I do find are never great). Retaliation is new to this patch I think, and pretty cool! Trog's Hand, the Regen/MR ability, is great as well. Later on he will gift you weapons, which is nice but not awesome like Okawaru's. I only sac corpses if I can't eat them, piety be damned!

Personally, I find the game more fun with fighter types , or hybrids. I can't get into pure casters. Pace is too slow for me.

[Slayerik]

Just got the latest version and fired it up again. Anyone remember the trick to making this run windowed?

C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR NAME HERE \Local Settings\Application Data\Crawl\settings

tiles_options.txt

# tile_full_screen     = false



I think anyway.

[Sky]

I'm just using the webtiles. Is there a reason to play the other version? I like having progress saved online for me, it's nice to have a turn-based thing for when I'm waiting for stuff to install and having it online means I can go home and pick up where I left off.

Try #2 started so promising, found splint mail and a magic hammer on level 1...but then wasn't paying attention and got creamed by the third monster on level 2, a named.

111 Komoto the Skirmisher (level 3, 0/33 HPs)
             Began as a Minotaur Berserker on Mar 22, 2012.
             Was a Believer of Trog.
             Killed by nerve-wracking pain
             ... invoked by Jessica
              (5 damage)
             ... on Level 2 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 00:14:39 (1200 turns).

Woops, forgot to ID her before she went invis.

[Slayerik]

Make sure you get trog's hand running for those pesky casters! Congrats, you were killed by the worst unique in the game! (been there!)

On a weird note, I showed this game to a friend of the family who is about 13 and he actually got into it. He was killed in a room with Jessica and Terrence (the names of his parents IRL). He thought I fucked with the game....

[Slayerik]

956 DoWork the Archer (level 7, 0/45 HPs)
             Began as a High Elf Hunter on Mar 22, 2012.
             Was a Follower of Okawaru.
             Slain by an iguana (8 damage)
             ... on Level 5 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 00:18:48 (5469 turns).


Well, I died to an Iguana if it makes you feel any better....I should probably get back to work....


My best run on my work machine, 70 point bolt of fire (guess I shoulda worked on the rF !)


183741 DrWan the Unseen (level 19, -10/112 (116) HPs)
             Began as a Kobold Artificer on Feb 6, 2012.
             Was a High Priest of Nemelex Xobeh.
             Killed from afar by Margery (70 damage)
             ... with a bolt of fire

[Kitsune]

The non-webtile version has nice things like mouseover info on tiles.  Not a big deal at all if you're a vet, pretty nice if you're newb.

[Rendakor]

My internet is sporadic when I'm using it for anything serious (uploading to YT for example) so I like having the downloaded version.

Also thanks Slayerik. My file wasn't in that folder but knowing the name made finding it possible.

[Slayerik]

I've got a Naga Assassin going that is pretty slick. I have beasted like 5 uniques in their sleep. So rewarding. I also have an army of undead.

Wish me luck getting anything done today at work :)

[Bann]

Good luck sir. Also, webtiles has killed my productivity at work this week.

[Sky]

Good luck sir. Also, webtiles has killed my productivity at work this week.

This.

Actually, it hasn't been bad because I'm in the middle of receiving a ton of new machines and just running updates and whatnot, so turn-based rocks.

Picked up my web game at home and got rocking with some nice upgrades, especially my great mace (Poundy) that just socks things left and right. Then I equip a cursed orc flail. Dammit! What is with me getting curses, darnit. So I guess now I should run through my scrolls to see if I have something to uncursify?

Tried the local version at home, the mouse stuff is pretty nice for quick looks at things, but I don't use most of the functions because I got used to the keystrokes of the webtiles. I was getting tired of the occasional lag of webtiles, though.

[Sky]

Oh, look. A scroll of curse armor  

Luckily, just my +0 elf gloves.

Yay, 8 scrolls later I got an enchant weapon I. Back to pounding with Poundy!

[tazelbain]

The non-webtile version has nice things like mouseover info on tiles.  Not a big deal at all if you're a vet, pretty nice if you're newb.

It was still missing graphical inventory a month ago when I tried again which is pretty big to me. YMMV.

[Slayerik]

Up to level 23...I feel unstoppable. I slither around and scewer things with my +6, +6 Dagger of Electrocution (There is a sudden explosion of sparks!), I took a large shield off some named guy and between that and my decent evasion and armour, things can't fuck with me. I am the slowest thing you have ever seen, being exalted with Cheirboros or whatever, but he hooks up crazy stats. I just wade through shit killing, then raising the corpses for an unstoppable wave of slow death. Regeneration and repel missiles are my favorite utility spells. I have the swamp, vaults, and snake runes. I am headed for the realm of Zot!

(famous last words)

Ugh. Work. To be continued.....

[Sky]

It was still missing graphical inventory a month ago when I tried again which is pretty big to me. YMMV.

Yep, still doesn't. I think the minimap is a bit bigger, though.

Other than the latency, my main issue at work is the wonkiness of running it in chrome on osx 10.7 (some of the screens don't work and lock up occasionally) and the wireless keyboard doesn't have a number pad.

[Teleku]

I really dont see the point of removing Mountain Dwarves, or some of the other races they've mentioned.  Whats the point?  What do you gain?  Why not leave in all of them to give players more options?