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Ingmar
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So it hasn't burned us, but starting Sanchez at DH is so goddamn stupid.  |
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This has not gone the way I expected it to go so far.
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Just go ahead and sweep them so I can get the regularly scheduled FOX programming back for the week.  |
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 (yes, its from game 2, but cant find any game 4 gifs yet, and it fits). Tigers in 6.
4 Man, you almost had that prediction perfect except for one small part.  And condolences Slayerik. You had a nice team this year, and if the Giants or A's weren't still in it, I would have been happy to see them win. |
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Here, Teleku:  |
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Congrats, Giants. Detroit tried to put up a fight but it didn't work for them.
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I swear every time I second guess something Bochy does it works out somehow. Theriot at DH?
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Giants were a complete team. Just a little bit of bat and Tigs had a shot, but alas .170 in the series...pfffft.
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Demonstrating what a joke the Gold Gloves are sometimes, Ian Desmond is a finalist at SS while Brandon Crawford is not.
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Derek Jeter is the poster-child for undeserved Gold Glove awards.
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Derek Jeter is the poster-child for undeserved Gold Glove awards.
Maybe - but he really was one of the only damn players on the Yankees that seemed to realize it was postseason and was playing with any type of passion. |
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Derek Jeter is the poster-child for undeserved Gold Glove awards.
Maybe - but he really was one of the only damn players on the Yankees that seemed to realize it was postseason and was playing with any type of passion. Maybe - but I heard the Chevy Volt owners really love their cars. |
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Price over Verlander for the Cy Young is a bad call.
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Price over Verlander for the Cy Young is a bad call.
Better ERA, Better ground ball rate, similar batting average on balls in play. Verlander pitched more innings and had more Ks. What's your case? Random sabermetric stats or something actual? |
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27 more innings pitched. That's the equivalent of 3 complete games. With all the other numbers being similar, that makes him significantly more valuable.
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Cabrera wins AL MVP. It wasn't close either, getting 22 of 28 first place votes. Oh, and Posey wins NL MVP.
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MVP Voters love playoffs and the triple crown. WHO KNEW?!!?!?!!?  |
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27 more innings pitched. That's the equivalent of 3 complete games. With all the other numbers being similar, that makes him significantly more valuable.
I'm a homer, let me start by saying that. Also, I thought Verlander would win. I heard an interesting analysis of Price's innings and wins were against a better average quality opponent than Verlander. He faced Sabbathia something like 3 times during the season. That's crazy! |
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And means absolutely nothing.
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As usual, Drew nails it. The Albom quotes remind me of some of the things I have seen posted in this very thread. |
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Look, Miggy won the Triple Crown. It doesn't matter what stats are used, the people WHO VOTE for the MVP were never going to ignore that, even if Trout was probably more deserving.
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He won the triple crown and got his team to the playoffs. If you're going to win MVP, to me you should be at least in the post-season, especially with the expanded nature of the playoffs now.
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Weakest division in baseball, worse record than Trout's team. I don't think we should give the MVP candidates extra credit/blame for things that are 100% out of their control.
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Paelos
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Weakest division in baseball, worse record than Trout's team. I don't think we should give the MVP candidates extra credit/blame for things that are 100% out of their control.
That's not the nature of the award. It's not "the best player in baseball". It's the MOST VALUABLE player in baseball. Trout may be better, but was he as valuable as Cabrera? Detroit made the playoffs by 3 games. Even using a stat I hate: WAR, you could say the reason they were 3 games up or more was due to Cabrera. Thus, not having Cabrera would be the difference in making the playoffs or not by a wide margin. What was the difference in Trout or no Trout? How was he more valuable when you didn't succeed as a team in making the playoffs with or without him? Also, I don't buy the weak division stuff. The NL West was the weakest division in that league, and they won the Series with the MVP as well. |
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WAR - by definition - measures value. So yeah I'm not going to buy into the guy with less WAR is more valuable because he happened to play in a shitty division, lucky him.
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WAR - by definition - measures value. So yeah I'm not going to buy into the guy with less WAR is more valuable because he happened to play in a shitty division, lucky him.
You can't be that valuable if your team doesn't even make the playoffs. Sorry. You can be better than other players, but not valuable. |
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THE ANGELS WON 1 MORE GAME THAN THE TIGERS IN A TOUGHER DIVISION. By your logic, the best player on the Nationals should have won the MVP, since his team won their division and had the most wins in baseball. Or the Yankees, since we are talking about the AL.
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Or alternately, any random player on the Tigers who's amount of WAR was greater than the amount by which they won the division could have been MVP. Doug Fister, MVP.
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He was the highest WAR on the team. Therefore most valuable on that team by that stupid stat. That team made the playoffs. He got the MVP.
The logic's not hard. Hell, I could make a case for Cano more than I can make one for Trout.
All wins aren't equal. If you don't make the playoffs you were just as valuable to your team as anybody else sitting home in October. You didn't matter. The result was exactly the same as if you didn't exist.
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The logic's not hard Because there is none. Are you actually Mitch Albom? All wins aren't equal If that is the case, then surely winning more games while playing a tougher schedule is worth more, yes? |
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All wins aren't equal. If you don't make the playoffs you were just as valuable to your team as anybody else sitting home in October. You didn't matter. The result was exactly the same as if you didn't exist.
That is the stupidest fucking thing I have read today. |
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