Amarr HM
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Base defense missions were horrible, best avoided.
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I'm going to escape, come back, wipe this place off the face of the Earth, obliterate it and you with it.
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Merusk
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Once you got the Plasma Defenses (and then the fusion defenses) and the pad that repelled the ufo up for another shot, there was no such mission as Base Defense.
That was always quite lol.
Yep! The number of base invasions that actually occurred in my numerous games I could count on one hand. I never bothered to set up the bases to optimize defence because it simply wasn't worth it. Oh look it's the attack battleship lets shoot that sucker down and then loot the corpse. So in sum it doesn't bother me that base defence missions are gone.
Why can't it be October 9th yet!
It only takes one mission to change your mind. Like, OOOOH FOR EXAMPLE, your Skyranger is flying out to a crash site when your base is discovered then invaded with only your wounded commander and 4 squaddies to defend it.  Loss of a base sucks. |
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Mrbloodworth
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DEMO: I was a bit put off by picking a country/area, rather than the direct spot I wanted my base. Also, the globe and travel time was...well, my computer loads fast. Barely had seen it.
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eldaec
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DEMO: I was a bit put off by picking a country/area, rather than the direct spot I wanted my base. Also, the globe and travel time was...well, my computer loads fast. Barely had seen it.
This seems weird, if you're going to use the xcom name, it seems daft not to have this - even if it has no gameplay impact. |
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Ratman_tf
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DEMO: I was a bit put off by picking a country/area, rather than the direct spot I wanted my base. Also, the globe and travel time was...well, my computer loads fast. Barely had seen it.
This seems weird, if you're going to use the xcom name, it seems daft not to have this - even if it has no gameplay impact. I'd be more upset if they turned the game into a FPS.  |
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Murgos
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DEMO: I was a bit put off by picking a country/area, rather than the direct spot I wanted my base. Also, the globe and travel time was...well, my computer loads fast. Barely had seen it.
This seems weird, if you're going to use the xcom name, it seems daft not to have this - even if it has no gameplay impact. But it really had no impact. Sure I picked fun places for my bases like Miami Beach, NORAD or whatever but its pretty minor. Even for radar coverage it really made no difference because the long range radars covered huge areas and the later tech radars made even those obsolete. |
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Mrbloodworth
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Well, interceptor travel time was impacted.
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Hawkbit
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I didn't play the originals, but the demo was fun. I'd like to see how the console versions happen, as a nice turn-based strategy game like this would be great fun from the couch.
Verbal flogging incoming, I expect.
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lamaros
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Civ V is unlocked now. If you pre-order now it's Civ V and Xcom for the one price. But you get Civ V now.
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« Last Edit: September 28, 2012, 05:09:56 PM by lamaros »
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lamaros
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Amaron
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Pretty cool idea for a trailer. Some of those failures were pretty fake but it was a good way to show that tactics matter.
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Goumindong
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So who wanted that copy of Civ 5?
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Merusk
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Yeah. I suspect we have quite a few to give away.
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lamaros
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I'll have a copy if anyone wants to spare one, though it's not really vital.
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Dark_MadMax
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So I played the demo. Was horribly dissapointed, even though I liked everything released up to that point about the game
- Gui. Horrid. no words.- I cant immerse in tactical elements where I have to struggle with counterintutive, unresponsive, console gui
- Camera. - fixed camera in 2012? really?
- map - tiny
- bugs - never finished demo as game keeps freezing ( it just game i can alt tab in and out and do other things fine
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Ironwood
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DraconianOne
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I'll have a copy if anyone wants to spare one, though it's not really vital.
I'll be cheeky and say yes - but put me bottom of the list because there might be people who really, really want it. (In return, I do have a spare copy of DX:HR going. Or the lesser known Sanctum) |
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lamaros
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Get the game for 34$. Green Man Gaming has another promo: First and foremost, we have a 25% voucher available for one week, valid for use across hundreds of digital titles from Green Man Gaming:
GMG25-EVFWS-4Z4ZN I can confirm the promo worked for me, and will supposedly work for the US, though I am in Australia so I'm not 100%. |
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calapine
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Forgot to check the thread for a while.
lamaros if you still want Civ 5 give me your steam name and I get in touch with you!
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lamaros
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Forgot to check the thread for a while.
lamaros if you still want Civ 5 give me your steam name and I get in touch with you!
Ooer! I sent you a pm, though the name is the same as here. Danke! and many other words of kindness. |
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Big Gulp
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I'll probably buy it and enjoy it, but only once it's on sale. Lots of little niggling details felt off to me, but one of the biggest things was no reconnaissance by fire... In the old game if an alien was in the gas station I sure as hell wouldn't shoot the alien; I'd shoot the pumps. Seems like that's gone now.
In any case, anyone got an extra Civ 5 burning a hole in their pocket?
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Mrbloodworth
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Quite sure full environmental destruction is in.
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Big Gulp
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Quite sure full environmental destruction is in.
I might have completely overlooked it, but how do you choose to fire at anything that isn't an alien? I know you can do it with explosives, but didn't see any way to do it with rifles. |
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calapine
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I might have completely overlooked it, but how do you choose to fire at anything that isn't an alien? I know you can do it with explosives, but didn't see any way to do it with rifles.
You cannot. That is actually one of the grips I have about the game so far. |
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Big Gulp
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I might have completely overlooked it, but how do you choose to fire at anything that isn't an alien? I know you can do it with explosives, but didn't see any way to do it with rifles.
You cannot. That is actually one of the grips I have about the game so far. Exactly. Once I got alien weaponry I made my own doors wherever I went. Looks like that option has been removed. |
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eldaec
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Does it even track projectiles so you can potentially hit something other than what you aimed at?
Back when UFO came out I was grumpy about how you lost the aiming view from laser squad that meant you could aim left or right of centre (mainly you'd use it for enemies half visible around a wall) , or manually set an arc for spraying a burst of automatic fire.
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lamaros
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Does it even track projectiles so you can potentially hit something other than what you aimed at? Yes, it does. Free aimed things (grenades, rockets) will have a risk of missing the exact target you give them, while guns will hit other parts on the map when they miss, this could be other units (who take damage), or terrain (which might be destroyed, or set on fire, etc). However you cannot free aim at the destructible terrain with guns - you can only target enemy units. |
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Amaron
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To be fair there isn't much point letting people free aim at walls with normal guns. Has anyone tried it by haxoring in the bigger guns in the demo?
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Mrbloodworth
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I'm not really off put by 9mm guns not knocking down walls :)
I have rockets and grenades. Do we know that there is no form of explosive device?
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lamaros
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eldaec
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To be fair there isn't much point letting people free aim at walls with normal guns. Has anyone tried it by haxoring in the bigger guns in the demo?
Aside from destructible terrain, free aim just makes the game feel more open; things like shooting petrol pumps are way cooler when you spot the explodable thing the scene, rather than it appearing on the list of shootable things. Probably not the end of the world - but just hard to see why you'd choose to do it that way. |
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Murgos
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Exactly. Once I got alien weaponry I made my own doors wherever I went. Looks like that option has been removed.
I don't think we've seen the heavier weapons yet but you certainly can do that with rockets and grenades. so, uh yeah. Whatever, when I was in the shit I totally shot my way through walls with my 5.56 NATO Ball. |
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Goumindong
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Truthfully I am not too worried. Free aim made a lot of things pretty trivial. You just blew up all the cover as you advanced with scouts. Worried about a tough entrance? Blow it up!
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eldaec
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...and whatever happens it'll be better than apocalypse.
But my expectations have dropped from 'actual UFO remake' to 'mildly diverting tactics game'. Admittedly this is better than 'heretical console abomination that will corrupt all future discussion of xcom', which is what I feared at the start.
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Big Gulp
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...and whatever happens it'll be better than apocalypse.
But my expectations have dropped from 'actual UFO remake' to 'mildly diverting tactics game'. Admittedly this is better than 'heretical console abomination that will corrupt all future discussion of xcom', which is what I feared at the start.
Yeah. Like I said before, this looks really good, but I don't think it's going to precisely scratch the itch I needed scratched. There's always Xenonauts! |
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