Gold Rush: Alaska

[Ozzu]

Not a good episode if you like Parker.

And not a good episode if you dislike Dakota Fred.

[kaid]

I am afraid the big nugget mine may officially be played out unfortunately. I can see parker going to work for that crazy expert miner guy they bring in once in a while as he has some really serious gold mines in the klondike.

I think its pretty clear that dave is likely the one who hit the "mother load" When he is pulling around 20 oz after a day or two of running its pretty clear he is on the gold right now.

What I don't understand is why if Todd is down due to the trommel his guys did not go over and help out indian river. Better to have all hands on deck on the one claim thats producing and its obviously not that far away.

Freds gold is not to surprising. We know where the gold is on his claim and we know it is a healthy amount its just taking them a long time to get back down to it safely after the flooding danger past.

[Sky]

Really shitty episode for the Schnabels :(

[kaid]

Yes it sucks but I forsee parker either getting a new claim or going to work for that crazy swede guy who operates some huge gold mines in the klondike.

[Slayerik]

"Mining Legend" Wats Hiznuts.

[Sky]

I thought his name was Husis Fayse?

[Slayerik]

Well, looks like ole Todd failed miserably again. And now Dave and co. are going to haul in 500 more oz.s themselves. Parker.... this is my sad face :(

Dakota Fred, used his Discover(y) card and got him some new equipment. No more scrap metal and wood resin fixes for this guy!

My fiancee hates his son, Dustin. I don't think he's that bad. He's just a young Fred...without the skills or mining knowledge. So basically, he's just a dick.

[Soln]

They gotta fire Todd.  Holy shut.

[Soln]

They gotta fire Todd.  Holy shit.

[Soln]

kindle2 spell check hell

[Evildrider]

Dustin is just impatient and wants to get shit done.  He's right about all the bootleg fixes that Fred keeps cobbling together though.  It's taken them 2 seasons and they still don't seem to really have gotten much more done than Todd did his first season.

[Sky]

Are you nuts? Fred's kept them going and he found a whole new hole to dig, along with pay dirt all the way down to it (that Dustin wanted to toss aside). Dustin needs to shut his yap and listen to the old man. Fred may be a dick but he's tough and smart, two things that seem to be lacking in his kid.

Also, loltodd. The thing that sucks about Turin hauling all that gold is that it's under the Hoffman mining company.

[kaid]

Todd may be a nice guy but he is just so totally clueless and hapless I don't see dave staying with him baring huge cash incentives from the network. Todds utter haplessness makes compelling TV but really bad business. I loved the interview they had with Freddy DODGE and they asked him about the new trommel. He was pretty classy and not wanting to diss his friend but you can just see that twinkle in his eye thats  says I told you so to todd.

[Evildrider]

As much as we like to rag on Todd.  They are pulling in crazy gold since they merged teams. 

[Abagadro]

Seems like the operation is being run by Dave, Thurber, and the gold recovery guy (and their wizard mechanic) and Todd mostly waddles around to have scripted conversations and Jack is there to pull jars out of his pocket.

[Ozzu]

Todd has been a little nutty the last couple of episodes, but it seems to be working at this point.

It's pretty wild, but they could actually hit that 1000 oz. There is no chance in hell I ever in a million years would have seen that coming.

[Evildrider]

I watched the latest Gold Rush special thing as well, and it looks like Todd's antics were just made more dramatic they way it was all cut together.  I also think that if the trammel hadn't of been a disaster that they'd be well over their 1000 oz.

Also they start rumors about next season.  Parker saying stuff like he may not be mining in Alaska next year, Todd mentioning he has something big planned for next season, even Dakota Fred made it look like he wouldn't be back to Porcupine Creek.

[Der Helm]

hadn't of

hadn't have

[kaid]

I watched the latest Gold Rush special thing as well, and it looks like Todd's antics were just made more dramatic they way it was all cut together.  I also think that if the trammel hadn't of been a disaster that they'd be well over their 1000 oz.

Also they start rumors about next season.  Parker saying stuff like he may not be mining in Alaska next year, Todd mentioning he has something big planned for next season, even Dakota Fred made it look like he wouldn't be back to Porcupine Creek.

Even if parker manages to find enough dirt to finish this year off since smith creek was a bust the big nugget mine is pretty much played out. It had a hell of a run and produced a lot of gold over its time but it pretty much is time to start the reclamation and move on to someplace else. I kinda hope parker gets in with Tony at a real gold mine although I don't think tony would want cameras around his operation.

[Slayerik]

OH SHIT FINALE TONIGHT

[kaid]

Baring one of the other mines having the best week gold mining EVER I don't see anybody catching up to the hoffmans who have about 7 times more gold already mined than any of the other miners.

[Soln]

I stopped watching and I can't get it on Hulu.


HoffCo also has 7x the gear and monkeys, and so 7x and more of cost.  Their success (?) will be a reality-TV success.  /golfclap

[Sky]

OH SHIT FINALE TONIGHT

Guys, huddle up. I know we can do it, and I believe. If you believe, then we can hit ONE MILLION OUNCES next year guys. Dad, lead us in a prayer.

There, spoilered it for you!

I'm with Soln. The gold pulled out of the ground is only half the formula here.

[Evildrider]

I stopped watching and I can't get it on Hulu.


HoffCo also has 7x the gear and monkeys, and so 7x and more of cost.  Their success (?) will be a reality-TV success.  /golfclap

They are 400 ounces over the break even point.  So they are making money this year.

[kaid]

The thousand ounces was a pull it out of his butt number that they are even closing in on it is pretty impressive for the stooges although dave getting most of it probably explains how they got this far. Todd trying to break the plant for the full season probably would have left them without any gold left to his own devices.

[Evildrider]

The last two clean outs, with everyone at Indian River, doubled the standing total from the whole season.  As much as we want to bash Todd he did increase the gold productivity when he finally got a working wash plant to work with. 

I'm not totally defending Todd he's had some derp moments, but I think the editing worked against him more this year than the last 2.  He's also smart enough to get all this shit together and get a TV show about it, and the highest rated one on Fridays no less.

This also got picked up for a fourth season.  Where and what they will be doing is going to be revealed on the show tonight.

[Ozzu]

Sounds like next season is going to be a little different.

You have Fred wanting to fly into a new area where there's literally lumps of gold in the rocks.

You have Parker hooking up with Tony Beets.

And you have a partial Hoffman crew going to South America.

The hell?

[Sky]

The Hoffman thing is an off-season summer spin-off.

Also, as far as Todd having a good season, that's utter bullshit. How much did Indian River produce? Because that's Dave Turin. How much tv money is there that Dave took a 48k cut of that rather than a Hoffman cut when he shouldered the burden?

My second favorite moment this season (after Parker's dad on father's day) was Tony making fun of Todd "But what does he do?"

[Soln]

current price of gold:  $1582.50

HoffCo total gross 1400 ounces (?) = $2,215,500

cost for me to lease a bulldozer:  $2000/week (?)

cost for Todd:  ?? a lot less * a lot of other stuff

Discovery Channel I think made these guys and there's no real way this was break even from what they pulled out.  Who knows?  I don't care really, all reality TV is fixed/bullshit.

[tgr]

Todd's been to south america before, and unlike the jungle gold series guys they decided that it wasn't worth it and didn't get into a heap of shit.

Looks like they're going to avoid the jungle and go somewhere dryer instead (with a possible hilarity of "how do you run the sluices" this entails?). It'll probably be interesting to see what Todd's learned over the years, and how many mistakes he'll make from now on.

And personally I'm a lot less negative towards Todd, even though he has had a few derps. He's also made a few hard and right choices.

[kaid]

Sounds like next season is going to be a little different.

You have Fred wanting to fly into a new area where there's literally lumps of gold in the rocks.

You have Parker hooking up with Tony Beets.

And you have a partial Hoffman crew going to South America.

The hell?

The parker move makes a lot of sense I figured with tony showing up a lot something like that would happen. He likes parker and parkers drive to succeed and I think there is some talk that tony beets daughter has the hots for parker and visa versa.

Freds new claim is interesting I just don't see how you get any equipment up there unless they are going super low end with picks and shovels I don't think you are going to be able to get any sort of heavy equipment up to that claim. And if the gold is in the rocks that requires a whole different sort of mining hope dustin likes wielding a sledge hammer.

At least Todd seems to be looking for less jungly and more sandy desert areas in south america. Less chance of death by unspeakable jungle plague at least. Sounds like that will be covered in some mid season break showing probably like the jungle thing they did probably with the same effect. Find they can find good gold deposits but to dangerous to work it.

[Evildrider]

Sooo this is back.  It's been a few episodes, and I have to say I am fucking astounded that Todd was able to find a place to dig in South America.  I can't wait to see the levels of fail this brings to the show.

[Ghambit]

The biggest fail will be watching those rich white-skinned Guyanese take those guys out to pasture; especially Todd.  (those folk won't respect that fool down there)

[kaid]

The biggest fail will be watching those rich white-skinned Guyanese take those guys out to pasture; especially Todd.  (those folk won't respect that fool down there)

Hehe oh ya good luck with them getting equipment in supplies down there they are SOO going to be taken to the cleaners by the locals and rightfully so.

[Ozzu]

Yeah. Considering how they always seem to have problems getting all their equipment to the same place on time in locales which are MUCH easier to get to, I have no idea how they're going to pull this off.