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satael
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Reply #3465 on: October 21, 2013, 10:54:59 AM

My rules for LRMs....

Don't fire at anything more than 700 away.
Don't fire at anything you can't see.
Don't fire at anything others aren't shooting.
Accept you'll do less than 5 damage to a worthless component on each volley and that their main role is to panic people and make their screen shake.

my rules:
fire if someone has a tag on the target (even if >700m or no LOS)
chain-fire for increased suppression effect
artemis is essential if you want lrm to be actually worth anything other than suppression
make sure you have some other weapon than lrm to use for close range
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Reply #3466 on: October 21, 2013, 12:47:09 PM

Just had a game with a certain "f13baka". Anyone of us?

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Reply #3467 on: October 21, 2013, 02:43:22 PM

Thanks for the advice on LRMs guys. I'll have to do some thinking I would guess. Anyway, the other issue is that my Ping is generally crud at peak times, so LRMs i thought would help do stuff without me getting involved in a brawl while fighting through butter. Anyway some more games I guess.

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Reply #3468 on: October 21, 2013, 03:11:45 PM

Add me, Mr. T.

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Reply #3469 on: October 22, 2013, 02:27:11 AM

My Graphic Card does NOT like the new patch.  Constantly stopping and restarting the driver.

It's pretty fucking unplayable again and it hasn't been like this in quite a few patches.


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Reply #3470 on: October 22, 2013, 05:37:33 AM

I heard it might not like Win 8.1 instead of your videocard. Could it be the case?

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Reply #3471 on: October 22, 2013, 05:56:02 AM

MWO is really wonky when it comes to graphics. While I have been lately lucky enough to limit my problems to a few missing textures now and then it's kind of disconcerting how the fps suddenly goes off the scale (meaning there's no limiting of any kind) for me for a few seconds the screen goes all black between loading screen and ready screen (and I can hear the fan on my gpu rev it to max for those seconds).
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Reply #3472 on: October 22, 2013, 06:06:05 AM

I heard it might not like Win 8.1 instead of your videocard. Could it be the case?

Of Course !  That'll be it !

Does it matter that I have Windows 7 ?

 why so serious? why so serious? why so serious? why so serious? why so serious?

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Reply #3473 on: October 22, 2013, 06:20:55 AM

Could it be the case?

That's why I asked, you arse!  DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS

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Reply #3474 on: October 22, 2013, 06:26:28 AM

lol.

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Reply #3475 on: October 22, 2013, 06:33:54 AM

I really hope they will implement a 1v1 duel mode too with the upcoming deatmatch skirmish feature.

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Reply #3476 on: October 22, 2013, 06:41:15 AM

I'm actually still hoping for a single player game.

Yeah, yeah, I know, that's moronic.  But hey.

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Reply #3477 on: October 22, 2013, 06:43:47 AM

I want some Solaris map modes.

FFA.

Locust only FFA.

King of the Hill FFA.

Maybe somewhere to blow off stress between map battles...

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Reply #3478 on: October 22, 2013, 06:57:42 AM

Some of the randoms at the moment are full of locusts.  They're surprisingly effective in swarms.

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Reply #3479 on: October 22, 2013, 07:30:28 AM

Newbie report! I have bought my first mech!! Oooh virgin territory!

After reading down the thread today I decided to go for support, since my graphics card is really old and I start getting frame rate slowdown. And since I suck its nice to contribute without even doing anything, and having me as a heavy along might be depending on me too much.

So I put off my catapult purchase till I actually know what the fuck I'm doing, and I went for a Raven - 3L. Based on the flat statement that NARC isnt worth it I pulled off the Narc pod, and then I decided to yeank out the XL engine as I'd like to last a little longer in a fight. I put in a 205 standard engine to replace it, and a couple of heat sinks. So I have The TAG, all the ECM goodness, a couple of Med lasers and an SRM 6. Top speed 94.8, which is alright, only a drop of 3kph from the XL engine and using a standard makes it a bit more survivable. I'm going to stick with the other mechs for now and TAG stuff. And I don't think I could overheat this thing if I tried.

Was just in a fight and it works pretty ok. I don't know what the hell TAG does but its cool to use. I might Swap the SRM for a few streak 2s once I get a bit more adventurous.

So, onwards and upwards!

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Reply #3480 on: October 22, 2013, 09:14:26 AM

Buy Double Heat sinks on everything. I like having a minimum of 1.3 heat eff.

95 is pretty slow for a raven, but I guess ok if you decide to hang with some big dogs. I usually go the MAX SPEED MAX BALLS approach, but you gotta know what you are doing to be out front.

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Reply #3481 on: October 22, 2013, 09:23:30 AM

Well, like I said its only 3kph less than the standard configuration, and I've already lost a torso and survived in a game so I think the tradeoff is worth it.

I might buy another raven chassis and rig that for scouting and speed. But for now running around and protecting the big boys is pretty fun, and I'm actually surviving matches so hey :D

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Reply #3482 on: October 22, 2013, 10:18:12 AM

Newbie report! I have bought my first mech!! Oooh virgin territory!

After reading down the thread today I decided to go for support, since my graphics card is really old and I start getting frame rate slowdown. And since I suck its nice to contribute without even doing anything, and having me as a heavy along might be depending on me too much.

So I put off my catapult purchase till I actually know what the fuck I'm doing, and I went for a Raven - 3L. Based on the flat statement that NARC isnt worth it I pulled off the Narc pod, and then I decided to yeank out the XL engine as I'd like to last a little longer in a fight. I put in a 205 standard engine to replace it, and a couple of heat sinks. So I have The TAG, all the ECM goodness, a couple of Med lasers and an SRM 6. Top speed 94.8, which is alright, only a drop of 3kph from the XL engine and using a standard makes it a bit more survivable. I'm going to stick with the other mechs for now and TAG stuff. And I don't think I could overheat this thing if I tried.

Was just in a fight and it works pretty ok. I don't know what the hell TAG does but its cool to use. I might Swap the SRM for a few streak 2s once I get a bit more adventurous.

So, onwards and upwards!


Huzzah for another Raven pilot!  Yes the leg hitboxes are a slap in the face for those of us who haven't been playing for like 8 months but hey! (nah, seriously it's a fun mech and all I ever pilot) 

I've found an XL280 gives me the best speed to loadout carrying compromise.  You're not going to be zipping along at uber top speed but you're still fast enough.  I think 129ish stock and 142.6 with Speed Tweak.  With an XL280 you can do FF, Endo, DHS's and still have a few weapon config choices.  Mess around in Smurphy's and see what going up or down a few engine sizes will get you based on your goals. 

ECM - just glue it in there and forget about it.  I've tried a sniper (2 x ERLLas plus TAG, BAP) and a couple of striker type setups: 2 x MPLas, 2 x SSRM2, with TAG, and 3 x MLas, 2 x SSRM2, dropping TAG for BAP.  The first setup runs cooler and you can get TAG assist bonuses, the second puts out a bit more damage and BAP helps with scouting and, importantly now with the new "changes", quicker SSRM locks.  You're going to find yourself fighting other lights, and despite all the changes and dual AMS wielding Locusts streaks are still one of the best weapons against other lights (Spiders - eat a dick) If you're willing to stay closer to the stock setup and drop a laser you can, I think, cram most everything back in there countermeasure-wise.  I've used AMS on a couple builds, but honestly, LRM's don't scare me much and if I'm getting creamed by multiple missile salvos I'm probably in the wrong place anyway.

HERE is a link to some Raven 3L builds (and associated comments) that I used to sort of spark some ideas.  Caveat some of them are pretty dated compared to the current state of the game, so check the posting dates on those.

Congrats on your new mech!  Have fun tell us how it goes. 

 

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Reply #3483 on: October 22, 2013, 10:42:15 AM

Well, I just stuck two streak 2s on it in place of the SRM 6. And promptly went out and realized that I should have swapped the ammo for streak ammo. Ooopsie! I've already been running with Light wolfpacks and I'm starting to hold my own. And I'm also sticking with heavy packs to cover them with the ECM as well. Very enjoyable.

Its got TAG, BAG, Guardian ECM on it with 2 Med lasers and two streak 2s with a ton of ammo, along with the FF armour of the 3L. All in all, good for now.

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Reply #3484 on: October 22, 2013, 11:42:26 AM

Does it have Double heat sinks? If not, it's a bad mech.

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Reply #3485 on: October 22, 2013, 12:00:29 PM

Well, I just stuck two streak 2s on it in place of the SRM 6. And promptly went out and realized that I should have swapped the ammo for streak ammo. Ooopsie! I've already been running with Light wolfpacks and I'm starting to hold my own. And I'm also sticking with heavy packs to cover them with the ECM as well. Very enjoyable.

One lesser known fact about ECM is that it can be switched on-the-fly to "disrupt" mode, which means you will lose your ECM protection, but will jam anyone else's in a 180m radius. That is particularly useful if you are dueling against another light that has ECM and prevents you from getting a lock for your Streaks. Hit J, default key, and go into disrupt mode and voila, you'll get a lock for your missiles and everyone will see them on the map too (otherwise it'll look like you are fighting a ghost). This is importnat to jamp those big Atlas DDC with ECM too, a very useful tool for your team. That said, remember that you can only jam one ECM at a time, so if there are two enemy ECMs in the same area, your disrupt mode won't work until dies or goes out of range.

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Reply #3486 on: October 22, 2013, 03:07:59 PM

Double heat sinks installed. Mech speed up to 105.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #3487 on: October 22, 2013, 03:09:19 PM

He means COUNTER mode. It is in disrupt mode by default.

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Reply #3488 on: October 22, 2013, 03:11:18 PM

Duh... yeah. Ugh.

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Reply #3489 on: October 23, 2013, 11:15:08 AM

Great, another Raven pilot...

(Really though, glad you're enjoying it.)

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #3490 on: October 24, 2013, 12:02:42 PM

New modules coming in late November:

Quote
Hill Climb Module
The deceleration received when climbing inclines is reduced by [10%]

Advanced Gyro module
The screenshake amount is reduced by [33%]

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Reply #3491 on: October 25, 2013, 11:33:35 AM


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Reply #3492 on: October 25, 2013, 11:51:31 AM

Always worth it if you haven't got all the modules.

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Reply #3493 on: October 27, 2013, 04:44:52 AM

Nah, it's official ;  I can't stand the Orion.  Any variant.  It's a shit mech for me.

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Reply #3494 on: October 27, 2013, 06:43:52 AM

To fight against or to pilot? Did you get one?

The one I have the most success with has a very simple setup, Standard Engine, 2ER Large Lasers, 1 AC20. It can poke anyone from long distance and punish them badly when they get close. It can even hold its own against Spiders if you can land a couple of big shells.

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Reply #3495 on: October 27, 2013, 07:21:32 AM

To pilot.  It's just a big lumbering tub of shit that gets cored.

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Reply #3496 on: October 27, 2013, 01:40:03 PM

Had a very satisfying moment against a spider last night .  Was watching one across the map, about. 700m range.  He stopped for a second so I let go with a dbl gauss.  Dead spider.  Ahhhhh.  Makes me feel so much better.

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Reply #3497 on: October 28, 2013, 12:04:37 PM

Are missiles the red-headed step child of MWO? I don't even own any LRMs anymore as they seem to be completely ineffective. I picked up a Centurion last week to try it out and find SRMs to be too darn slow to be effective (and Streaks take forever to lock).

I have actually found my most effective mech is now a CDA-2A with 6 MLs and enough DHS to fire them. (Speed Tweaked to 141kph) I simply zoom around the map till I find someones back and put a cpl of volleys into their CT rear. If they turn I disengage (and hopefully get ganked by my team) if they don't turn 6 MLs can ruin your day pretty darn quick.

Are QKDs any good? Liking the idea of a strike mech with JJs with plenty of energy slots...I just dont see a lot of QKDs ever.

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Reply #3498 on: October 28, 2013, 02:45:45 PM

I disagree entirely.  I find streaks fun and damaging, SRMS with Artemis are deadly and LRMS are in a very good place.

It's all about the useage, I think.  Certainly, I wouldn't really want to use SRMS without Artemis as the spread is worse than an LBX.

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Reply #3499 on: October 28, 2013, 03:06:05 PM

My cent has 3 SRM 4s with artemis and personally I find them almost useless...their travel time to target is simply too slow. Probably just need to work at it more but after everyone raved about centurions I've been disappointed so far.

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