Mechwarrior Online

[Ironwood]

5 PPCs and a Gauss.

 

 

[Merusk]

Stalker hero mech!    

I played a few games this morning. It seems like missiles have indeed returned and as a result there were fewer poptarting morons and matches were more than long-range slugfests.  You still get your ass beat if you're a brawler and all the long-range are still alive after your team has foolishly run face-first into a swarm of the enemy ( ) but at least you can take one or two out before snipers blow up your engine.

Also, lol ECM ERPPC spider. 

[calapine]

New Hero 'mech coming next Tuesday is a Stalker and it's called "Misery".
Should cost 6375 MC, sporting (speculated from the picture): "LA 2 energy and a missile door, LT Gauss, CT 1 energy, RT 1 srm6, RA 2 energy and a missile door."

A Gauss Stalker is exactly what we needed  

Heeeeeeeey! Woody! Falcy! Waaazup bros? I am back to the parteeey!          Ahem...*cough*

Anyway. As long as it's just one Gauss it doesn't seem that bad. Mostly seems to be the excessive boating of pinpoint damage weapon that's the issue lately.

But yes, it's disheartening. MWO is (was?) such a fun little game, but the complains about the state of things (on here, other forums, the paragon group I used to play with, etc) are quite off-putting. I once again find developer blindness towards balancing/game mechanics hard to understand. Back when ECM was first introduced in devblogs literally everyones (including mine) reaction was 'omg, that sounds op'. It was just so obvious. And now finally...months...later they are nerfing is. Even on paper the flaws were visible.

If we take this developer ineptitude and use it to project it future handling of the sniper-alpha-issues that plague the game now, I see black.  

[Samprimary]

 oh my good holy lord.

gee we're having trouble with pinpoint long range high alpha dominating games and turning them into soulless snipefests. better release a chassis that can run 4ppc 1 gauss olololololol

[Goreschach]

oh my good holy lord.

gee we're having trouble with pinpoint long range high alpha dominating games and turning them into soulless snipefests. better release a chassis that can run 4ppc 1 gauss olololololol

$30

[Falconeer]

5 PPC Hunchback.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, that shows how nuts it is.

Question :  What the hell was the explosion at the end ?  How is it they do overheat damage because it looked like he cooked off in bits ??

(Also, so many times during the whole ten minutes I was screaming at the screen "YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPLODED.  HEAT IS BROKEN.")

[Hoax]

Have not and will not play this in awhile maybe ever again. The writing was on the wall from before the moment I broke down and started playing that these guys are really really bad at their jobs. But yeah I didn't even last the week of the Highlander patch. It was so obvious where the game was going.

I mean am I crazy or in CS, which is the most revered competitive fps game ever or close to it, don't they have cone of fire? The idea that MWO can't have that because casuals/fps players wont tolerate that kind of bullshit is nonsense. Its what the game desperately needs and if you tied it to heat levels, moving fast and jump jetting it'd be pretty close to tabletop cannon wouldn't it? What the fuck is the problem here, oh yeah its that these chucklefucks are horrible game devs.

[Ironwood]

The trouble is, it still has moments of fun that show through the bullshit.  Played with my Marmoset last night and close up gunned down 3 enemy mechs by travelling through the caves and getting behind them.  Then I was gunned down by the PPC Bullshit and Ravens with Large Lasers.  There is still some real fun to be had if they'd just pull heads out of asses and make some changes.

It has become exactly what we feared it would :  The Biggest Mechs with the Largest Guns Online and it's rather sad to see.

[Arthur_Parker]

It was a great game for months, it's incredible how bad all the "improvements" made it.

[Ironwood]

It's more incredible that they're not owning that fact.

[Falconeer]

I still believe they will fix it. I just want it to be sooner.

[Merusk]

They'll fix it when the money stops.  Here's the thing, there's enough people who like it this way I don't see the money stopping.

[Ironwood]

True enough.  I'm amazed they sold that many Gay Highlanders.

[Falconeer]

Here is Misery.

+10% Turning Rate, +10% Acceleration. +10% Pay 2 Win.

[Hoax]

They'll fix it when the money stops.  Here's the thing, there's enough people who like it this way I don't see the money stopping.

No they will try to fix it when the golds look up from their own asses and are upset there is barely anyone to play with anymore but by then it will be too late to salvage. Dead game incoming. These PGI guys are fucking terrible.

Here is Misery.

+10% Turning Rate, +10% Acceleration. +10% Pay 2 Win.

I've seen this pattern before in other games. Devs make bad moves that hurt player participation and leave lots of people on the sidelines not spending money. They are already not making as much money as they expected/want so they give the p2w factor a little juice to right the ship. Problem is once you open that pandora's box you just can't resist the urge to do it again and again.

Coolant should have made this obvious to everyone but this hero mech EVEN IF THEY NERF IT (I don't want to hear that shit) puts the notion that these guys aren't those kind of devs to rest.

[Ironwood]

Here is Misery.

+10% Turning Rate, +10% Acceleration. +10% Pay 2 Win.

[Goreschach]

Just gotta post PGI's backlog again:

Code:

Die Hard: Nakatomi Plaza(PC) 			04,2002		54 Metascore 50 User Score
EA Playground(DS)				10,2007		60 Metascore 82 User Score
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2(PSP) 			11,2007 	69 Metascore 72 User Score
Need For Speed: Undercover(PSP)			11,2008		52 Metascore 68 User Score
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen(PC,360,PS3)	06,2009		61 Metascore 66 User Score
Bass Pro Shops: The Strike(360,Wii,PC)		10,2009 	63 Metascore 48 User Score
Duke Nukem Forever(PC,360,PS3)			06,2011		51 Metascore 53 User Score

[Trippy]

I mean am I crazy or in CS, which is the most revered competitive fps game ever or close to it, don't they have cone of fire? The idea that MWO can't have that because casuals/fps players wont tolerate that kind of bullshit is nonsense. Its what the game desperately needs and if you tied it to heat levels, moving fast and jump jetting it'd be pretty close to tabletop cannon wouldn't it? What the fuck is the problem here, oh yeah its that these chucklefucks are horrible game devs.

CS (at least the original and Source, dunno about GO) doesn't have cone of fire if you are standing still -- your first shot will always hit dead center. It does have recoil so subsequent shots will drift depending on the weapon used and how long you wait between shots.

[Hoax]

And that exact system would work very much like the tabletop accuracy modifiers for movement that have always been a part of Battletech. They probably can get away with not having something as complicated as recoil if they just had a cone that gets worse the faster you move (and esp if you jump, so fuck right off pop tarting) and gets worse the hotter you are running.

My point is the myth that the mass market won't tolerate anything but 100% pinpoint accuracy all day is utter fucking bullshit.

[Trippy]

Yeah CS fixed it's bunny-hopping sniping bullshit a long time ago by dramatically decreasing accuracy if you are moving or jumping with a sniper weapon (for other weapons the penalty isn't as severe).

On the other hand you do have to be careful with this stuff. Otherwise you might end up with something like the horrifically bad CoF system that PlanetSide has.

[Goreschach]

Ironically, whenever someone brought up convergence and inaccuracy on the MWO forums the battletech grognards would start bitching about how it would be pandering to 'COD casual modern gamers'.

Not that I think the forum zeitgeist had any effect on the course of PGI, but it's still amusing to see the backpeddaling now that the problem is so obvious.

[Ironwood]

Some interesting play the past 3 days.

I've been playing almost exclusively in my Marmoset and noticing that since most utter cunts are at full zoom with long range weapons, I'm usually able to take at least two down by sneaking round and shooting them in the back.  I am, in fact, utterly amazed at how well this seems to be working.  My favourite so far was 4 mechs in one game, mostly because 2 of the chaps that I first killed logged out instantly once I'd done so, clearly not bothering to tell anyone 'Hey, Dudes, Rabid Marmoset'.

This does, however, only serve to highlight how awful it's gotten.

On a related note, there was a 6 AC2 Jager tearing shit up.  I've looked and I can't see how you make that viable...

[Slayerik]

Best I could come up with is JM6-DD

Horrible cooling, so I guess you better be chugging coolant. Horrible armor, horrible speed. Pretty much horrible.

[Ironwood]

That's what I thought.  But the guy was honestly piloting like an utter demon and was second last man standing.  The Dakka Dakka was deafening.

[Falconeer]

It must be just my perception, but I'd say that in the last few days I've seen more 'mech parts being hit than just the CT, and more components being destroyed. Is it just me?

[Ironwood]

That's certainly been the case for me.   

[Llyse]

That's certainly been the case for me.   

The question is the discounted Yen Lo Wang worth it for someone who wants to master medium mechs eventually?

[Ironwood]

I think all of the Centurions are good mechs.  When fighting, they seem to have the best longevity of any other Mech.  You literally can't get these fuckers to go down and stop fighting until you Core them or shoot them in the fucking head.

[Merusk]

Agreed. They've fallen out of favor in the current "Heaviest mech with the longest range weapons" design, but they were fearful when things were working.  Seems like you always saw at least 2 or 3 running around, armless but still kicking ass, unlike Hunchies who seemed to explode if you sneezed on them once the arms were gone.

Long-term I'd love to have a few in my garage.

[Zaljerem]

I agree with Ironwood and Merusk; the Centurion is one of my favorite 'Mechs. I own them all, and have Mastered most of them.

[Arthur_Parker]

That's certainly been the case for me.   

The question is the discounted Yen Lo Wang worth it for someone who wants to master medium mechs eventually?

http://themittani.com/features/mwo-hero-mechs

Assuming the game goes back to making some kind of sense, the above is still valid.

[Ironwood]

While that doesn't nullify what I said, if we're talking Hero mechs, it has to be the Marmoset.

I love my Marmoset.  I'm also about 15 million up playing with my Marmoset over the last couple of weeks.

[Falconeer]

Yesterday hotfix should have finally squashed the HUD bugs.

Then, there's a screenshot of the Blackjack going around:




Also, buff to flamers. Something like:

Target heat will increase exponentially due to Heat Retention.  These tweaks just went into test today.

[Ironwood]

Why is it wearing the Spiderman suit ?