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Goreschach
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Reply #2450 on: March 20, 2013, 09:50:59 AM

I can actually play now!

Have a stalker 5M, think I'll try outfitting it with 5xLRM15/Artemis and TAG. Haven't really run with lrm's since way back in beta before chainfire was implemented. I used an xml edit to fake chainfire and ran around spamming missiles with a 6xLRM5 cat. So much bitching.
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Reply #2451 on: March 20, 2013, 11:35:00 AM

[Apparently the PC Gamer skin was covered extensively, so editing that out.]

I'm a die-hard Steiner.  I may even get back with my old unit once Community Warfare hits since I know they're playing.  Only way I'd switch is if some of the Periphery states open up.

I have yet to figure out how to declare a faction on my profile. I see all these people with factions and think WTF? How did they put that on their name? Is it a founders/premium thing?

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Reply #2452 on: March 20, 2013, 11:39:35 AM

Oh holy fuck.

LRMs are simply so broken it's not funny.  Two guys with over 1600 damage.  We got decimated in the first nanosecond.

No thanks.

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satael
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Reply #2453 on: March 20, 2013, 11:53:08 AM

Example of how little skill lrm-lpl founder atlas takes (especially with the lrms as they are now)
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Reply #2454 on: March 20, 2013, 12:33:56 PM

[Apparently the PC Gamer skin was covered extensively, so editing that out.]

I'm a die-hard Steiner.  I may even get back with my old unit once Community Warfare hits since I know they're playing.  Only way I'd switch is if some of the Periphery states open up.

I have yet to figure out how to declare a faction on my profile. I see all these people with factions and think WTF? How did they put that on their name? Is it a founders/premium thing?

Go to MWOMercs and login.  Now go to the 'profile' button.  tada.

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Reply #2455 on: March 20, 2013, 12:44:39 PM

New map Tourmaline Desert is already my favourite.

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Reply #2456 on: March 20, 2013, 01:07:37 PM

Example of how little skill lrm-lpl founder atlas takes (especially with the lrms as they are now)

cough cough I can niether confirm nor deny that I own a Founders Atlas with 2xLRM 15s in it.

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Reply #2457 on: March 20, 2013, 02:57:18 PM

[Apparently the PC Gamer skin was covered extensively, so editing that out.]

I'm a die-hard Steiner.  I may even get back with my old unit once Community Warfare hits since I know they're playing.  Only way I'd switch is if some of the Periphery states open up.

I have yet to figure out how to declare a faction on my profile. I see all these people with factions and think WTF? How did they put that on their name? Is it a founders/premium thing?

Go to MWOMercs and login.  Now go to the 'profile' button.  tada.


Goddamnit, they need not only need a new UI guy, they need a new web designer.

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Reply #2458 on: March 20, 2013, 03:27:03 PM

You don't lose the skill points you have in a mech if you sell it.  In fact if you sell one and rebuy it later it will have the same xp as when you got rid of it.  But note you have to have 3 mechs in one weight class  (light, medium, heavy, assault) maxed out with all elite skills to be able to unlock the master module slot.  To unlock master you have to have 3 mechs total in one weight class that have all elite skills maxed out, unlike going from basic to elite they don't have to be variants of one mech.  But unless you want to buy 3 other mechs in that same class to eventually get that mech to master I'd recommend keeping all three.  Personally I have only spent MC on more slots and hero mechs, have yet to purchase more premium time after my 30 days founder bonus ran out and while I miss the extra xp and money I don't feel I'm crippled without it, especially after they added bonus's for savior kills and things like that. 

If I had more time I'd maybe buy more premium time when they have a sale on it like now but since the last patch, like others have said, I freeze randomly on matches so the frustration has been keeping my in game time down. 

BTW a good link to check out that gave me some insight on how some equipment works not provided elsewhere.  Unofficial MWO wiki

Updated upcoming mechs thread

Next question. Once you've unlocked master is there any downside to selling one of the mechs that unlocked it?
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Reply #2459 on: March 20, 2013, 03:30:04 PM

And another question. I just bought a CDA-3m and I've put 4 MLs on it. It's doing pretty well. If I cut the engine from a 320 XL to a 320 I can put 3 LLs instead. However I'm starting to doubt that this would actually be better for a light mech. Opinions solicited.
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Reply #2460 on: March 20, 2013, 03:42:19 PM

I wouldn't.  But I'm not really into large guns on light mechs.  Also, heat.

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Reply #2461 on: March 20, 2013, 03:50:18 PM


Next question. Once you've unlocked master is there any downside to selling one of the mechs that unlocked it?

The money gained is eclipsed by time to grind the credits and buy it back later should you want that variant.  That's about it. If you don't want to pay MC to expand your garage, go ahead and sell.

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Reply #2462 on: March 20, 2013, 04:11:09 PM

Thanks for the advice. I tried to invite you to a grp Ironwood. Game wouldn't let me, stupid game.
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Reply #2463 on: March 20, 2013, 04:26:42 PM

Tonights been a bit flaky for me.  I got into a couple of games with Zeft, but then, oddly Service Pack for Windows restarted my fucking machine.

Don't worry there will be plenty of time.  Also, it turns out my wee Hunchie 4SP is affected by the missile change and can one shot lights.

So that's nice.

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Reply #2464 on: March 20, 2013, 04:43:00 PM

I've been having some good success with this. It runs hot as hell and low of ammo, but it packs a hell of a kick. Also spamming lrms on the stalker. KDR is hovering around 3. Another million c-bills or so and I'm going to drop the LL's and try to squeeze 4 ERPPCS on it.

Apologies to Eek.
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Reply #2465 on: March 20, 2013, 04:56:07 PM

I think I don't want to play a mech without ecm. It is so nice to watch them miss. I was up against a nother lt mech with 4 sstrk lrms he never fired a shot while I beat him up. Of course he could have been incompetent. :)
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Reply #2466 on: March 20, 2013, 05:23:29 PM

Game may be stupidly and utterly broken right now but its so broken nobody is even sure how broken it is. Considering missile splash was already fucked up though and people are reporting getting headshot in stalkers by lrm flights I think I'll sit this one out until I hear they have fixed it.

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Reply #2467 on: March 20, 2013, 06:48:28 PM

I've been having some good success with this. It runs hot as hell and low of ammo, but it packs a hell of a kick. Also spamming lrms on the stalker. KDR is hovering around 3. Another million c-bills or so and I'm going to drop the LL's and try to squeeze 4 ERPPCS on it.

Apologies to Eek.

No worries, we still won  awesome, for real

I was playing until 3am solo after a short stint with Falc... yeah, time to activate my Premium after Easter. Looking forward to running with more of you!

By the what voice server are y'all using (if any)? Younglings these days seem to use skype...  this guy looks legit
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Reply #2468 on: March 20, 2013, 08:04:00 PM

And another question. I just bought a CDA-3m and I've put 4 MLs on it. It's doing pretty well. If I cut the engine from a 320 XL to a 320 I can put 3 LLs instead. However I'm starting to doubt that this would actually be better for a light mech. Opinions solicited.

I say whatever works for you, easy to go back if you don't like the setup.  My third cicada variant is running 2 ERPPCs and 1 MPL.  I traded off some speed to get it which is bad for a cicada but it's a 'fun' build.  That's the main point in this game, is the setup fun for you or not.  I actually like having to buy variants in this game when initially I hated it as it seemed like an unnecessary grind/moneysink.  It forces you out of the 'best' build and experiment a bit. 
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Reply #2469 on: March 21, 2013, 12:41:18 AM

Game may be stupidly and utterly broken right now but its so broken nobody is even sure how broken it is. Considering missile splash was already fucked up though and people are reporting getting headshot in stalkers by lrm flights I think I'll sit this one out until I hear they have fixed it.

They have completely broken the game several times before, they generally fix it within a few days, sometimes it lasts till the next patch.
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Reply #2470 on: March 21, 2013, 03:12:23 AM

While this is true, I don't recall them ever having broken this much fun out of it.

It's just not good to have a stable of five mechs, nae cash and none with LRMs when you launch and the LRMS rain down and kill you.  Seriously not fun.

The bigger groups are just using harvested cash to quickly change specs and rake in more cash and kills.  Alas, since I'm the sheep in this situation, I'll wait till the hotfix.

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Reply #2471 on: March 21, 2013, 03:37:24 AM

I've been busy so not played much for past two weeks, the atlas bug was pretty bad, game lost sync and you were running around unable to damage anyone and then the game disconnected 5 minutes later.  Happened anytime an atlas died or something, they've had LRM's do crazy damage a couple of times in the past too.  But I haven't even patched for this one so no clue.
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Reply #2472 on: March 21, 2013, 03:45:49 AM

I think the statistics speak for themselves (I haven't used lrm20s after the patch and most if not all lrm15s are from when I started to use them just yesterday on my atlas)

LRM 20   27   8,700   2,338   26.87%   02:27:24   3,876
LRM 15   16   9,705   2,741   28.24%   01:39:11   8,093
LRM 10   27   5,610   1,491   26.58%   02:27:29   2,500

(matches, fired, hit, hit%, playtime, damage)

So the lrm15s have done almost double the damage compared to the lrm20s  swamp poop
(and most importantly double the damage per missile)

edit:added lrm10 stats too for comparison
« Last Edit: March 21, 2013, 03:49:40 AM by satael »
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Reply #2473 on: March 21, 2013, 04:39:20 AM

The AWS-8R is probably the go-to destructo death mech for the time being; you can put 4 Artemis LRM15's on it and it pukes them all out in one solid chunk of 60 missiles. And you'll have that package on a mech that's going about 80 miles per hour.
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Reply #2474 on: March 21, 2013, 04:51:48 AM

Ahahahha.  Holy fuck, I wish I had the cash for that.

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Reply #2475 on: March 21, 2013, 05:52:31 AM

Is there a support group for victims of Raven ECM abuse? Experienced that for the first time last night. Not fun.

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Reply #2476 on: March 21, 2013, 05:57:03 AM

I slapped some LRM-15s on my Catapult and Founder's Atlas last night and ran around with Slay for a few games. (Who is death incarnate in his Spider.)

Based on what I was seeing, LRMs are doing what only Streaks should - always hitting center target.  The splash damage will decapitate on the right chasis but I cored too many mechs for it to be anything else.  The other reason I'm so certain is that this is a bug that happened in the same way during a beta phase.

I'd bitch about ACs, too, but I'm pretty sure the Cata that BOOM-HEADSHOT me in my last game was a freak occurrence since I've done the same.

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Reply #2477 on: March 21, 2013, 06:40:50 AM

By the what voice server are y'all using (if any)? Younglings these days seem to use skype...  this guy looks legit
I yell at my screen.  It's the techie equivalent of yelling at clouds.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #2478 on: March 21, 2013, 06:44:08 AM

Streaks are supposed to hit randomly now.  If they're still only hitting the CT, then that's another bug.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #2479 on: March 21, 2013, 06:54:48 AM

Is there a support group for victims of Raven ECM abuse? Experienced that for the first time last night. Not fun.

What is Raven ECM abuse. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Reply #2480 on: March 21, 2013, 07:12:03 AM

It's where you are abused by a Raven, say in a dark alley on River City Dark. I was in my brand new Cataphract and I don't think I even hit him once.

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Reply #2481 on: March 21, 2013, 07:18:03 AM

Ah, I do that in my Cicada. It's fun to destroy Catapults a piece at a time.
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Reply #2482 on: March 21, 2013, 07:41:16 AM

Don't even bother logging on right now. Devs posted that they're hotfixing the missile problem later today.

As a consequence, there are currently tons of premades rolling around in lrm boats right now, farming like it's going out of style.
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Reply #2483 on: March 21, 2013, 07:58:40 AM

I slapped some LRM-15s on my Catapult and Founder's Atlas last night and ran around with Slay for a few games. (Who is death incarnate in his Spider.)

Haha, thanks man!

Yeah, was a good night! Merusk and I were rolling to victories. Raknor (Cidem in game, he's active and good...add him) finally got to see me playing decently...I swear the first couple times I had excuses...we grouped when I was drunk on St. Patties day ;) The final match was on the new map and I got to unleash the spider on those guys. Intense match, we squeaked it out at the end. I would just jump up to where they were, strafe and go, run away, rinse and repeat. My favorite moment as a spider is when you see the guy decide they are done trying to fight you, and turn to another target. Their backs are chewed 2 salvos later and I'm off to my next poor victim.

Let's try to group again tonight guys...

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Reply #2484 on: March 21, 2013, 09:43:02 AM

I should be on most of tonite. I'm up for watching Slay destroy everyone.
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