Kageru
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The world of tanks newbie experience is pretty solid. They'd still gain from a tutorial mode but the ranking system means you are mainly playing with other newbies, the map rotation is tailored to fast action (including some noob only maps), the tier 1 tanks are generally fast and quite fun (tier 4 is the suck / grind) and the tier of enemy tanks you face is capped low. Plus it gives you enough XP and silver than you can start upgrading your tank within a pretty small number of matches.
Part of the advantage for tanks is, I guess, that it has lots of individual vehicles. In a game like mechwarrior where you have a relatively small range of chassis and all the variation is in the modules you need to do it quite differenty.
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HaemishM
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For chassis, Mechwarrior Online needs to follow the League of Legends model. Don't think of them like WoT tanks, think of them like LOL Champions.
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Arthur_Parker
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They derailed that thread in a conversation about Pearl Harbor, it was like a competition to see who could take the biggest crap on it. 
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satael
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They derailed that thread in a conversation about Pearl Harbor, it was like a competition to see how could take the biggest crap on it.  Well, that's what those boards feel like on the whole; while there are some good posts here and there, a huge part is all kinds of nerd rage and anguish making them a pain to sift through (atleast for me). but then again that's what most official boards for games make me feel like anyway and I look for some "fan-site" that has better moderation if I care enough.
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The World of Tanks noob experience is solid NOW, after three years since beta. When WoT was where MWO is now things weren't so much better in general, your tier 1 tank was pitted against any tier and you were not even informed that in most cases your weapon had zero chance of hurting the enemy, and there wasn't any tutorial telling you that or other very basic things like that right click locked target. But it still was a more noob-welcoming game, as I said, due to a more straightforward gameplay that does not require heat management, due to a more accessible and appealing UI, and due to multiple colourful maps that didn't strain the eyes with thousands of layers of brown or grey. A btter overall presentation, even when it lacked actual aids for newcomers.
This is why I am sure MWO will get there in a year or so. Problem is, if it doesn't happen in a reasonable timeframe the game will alienate too many that would have loved to love it. Hell, they didn't introduce camouflages and cockpit items when they had only four maps and an uninformative pathetically looking interface, dammit.
One more thing: they've been hiring people lately. That's good, right?
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Amaron
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This is why I am sure MWO will get there in a year or so.
They still lack a compelling pilot xp system. That probably doesn't matter fun-wise but it's useful for hooking new people in.
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i like the whole real expertise in a particular mech chassie thing.
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Arthur_Parker
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Another 8 man drop video, below linked directly to the 2nd match, Lantyssa should like this one. Cultural Victory
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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satael
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I think that video is a pretty good example of what to expect when you play MWO 
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Gets
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Apparently mwomerc.com has been hacked and people are getting spam from their MWO specific e-mails. Google has also blacklisted the site and anti-virus scanners detect malware.
PGI is denying their site has been compromised. It would be wise to assume all your personal information on mwomerc.com has been compromised.
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Just a short bulletin* for those that don't regularly search for dev-posts and forums: - MC sale started today until 18th. 20% extra on purchase
- Buffs for Autocannons and PPCs (higher projectile speed across the board) as well as TAG (750m range) and NARC (longer duration). All scheduled for 18th Dec. patch.
- Further buffs for PPC/ER PPC in the pipeline: Less heat and a 'EMP effect'.
- Flamers & Machine Guns are confirmed to get some some love as well.
- Possible buffs for Large Laser and ER LL (less heat) are being considered.
- New Battlemech on 18th Dec: Stalker (Assault class, 85 tons).
- New Battlemech on 15th Jan: Spider (Light chassis).
- FINALLY a new map on 15th Jan. Some sort of Desert environment.
- New nighttime versions of existing maps on 18th. Forum rumor based on inspected gamefiles says it's River City.
- New play-mode: Conquest. Forums information is sparse. Dev says less focus on kills, more on teamplay. (But they would say that anyway, no?)
- Players will be able to choose which playmode to queue up to.
- 12 vs 12 matches are currently in testing.
- Improvements on User Interface and New Player Experience such as a real ingame tutorial. Don't expect the later before Feb. 2013 though...
- Christmas items still hilariously priced. 6.95$ for cockpit lights!
- Player-made tweak to remove the film-grain effect from the game. LINK. According to admin (Chris K) not considerd a vilotion of TOS.
*or is dispatch more appropriate here? *trying to improve my English* ------------ Additionally I have been working on my MWO-jokes. I'd say 2 out of 10 on the funny-sale, but good enough for F13: What do babies and Catapult pilots have in common? They cry if you shoot their ears off!
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Arthur_Parker
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Apparently mwomerc.com has been hacked and people are getting spam from their MWO specific e-mails. Google has also blacklisted the site and anti-virus scanners detect malware.
PGI is denying their site has been compromised. It would be wise to assume all your personal information on mwomerc.com has been compromised.
Yeah, this is clownshoes.
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Eeeek. It might be more than rumours.  Edit: Self made screenshot. Scanner warning from 20:22 GMT/15:22 EST 13.12.2012.
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Hm.. what info is compromised is now my question. Just my e-mail? Fuck it it's a throwaway yahoo account and easily changed. Credit card info? Gargh.
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Arthur_Parker
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They are still in the denial stage, so god knows. Edit to add. We are looking into the issue right now. Your email and private billing information (which isn't stored on our servers) has not been compromised, there is something odd going on with forum software. Which would sound more reassuring if it made sense, people have been getting spam emails so email addresses have been compromised in some way at least.
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calapine
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Edit: Further info 
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satael
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So anyone sure that this will not affect the actual game-client? (You never know these days what kind of shortcuts devs take with stuff that could be done with browser-like software modules)
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calapine
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So anyone sure that this will not affect the actual game-client? (You never know these days what kind of shortcuts devs take with stuff that could be done with browser-like software modules)
I don't think there is any way to tell conclusively. I bought some MC just before the hacking went public, so if something bad is gonna happen you'll know it here first....
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Falconeer
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SWTOR Civil War arena is back. More seriously, I like this. One just wonder why it took them so long. Seems pretty straightforward.
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Shannow
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Quick aside, anyone else get a beta key for Mechwarrior Tactics?
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Arthur_Parker
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That game is still under NDA I believe, probably best starting a thread if there isn't one in the games forum.
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PC Gamer article on conquest mode. Conquest mode coming to MechWarrior Online this TuesdaySpeaking of imaginary mechmoney, Piranha is also aiming to make MWO more new player-friendly by upping the rate of C-bill gain for players’ first 25 matches. This “Cadet Bonus” should allow players to buy their first mech in about half the time it currently takes. Next week’s patch will also address my biggest MWO annoyance: the quiet scourge of AFK players. Inoye says that “AFK players will now be earning little to no C-Bills/XP per game. The large rewards for winning or losing have been removed and only a fraction of what was there before will be rewarded at match end.” Take that, you lazy goons. Well if they wouldn't improve the trial mechs anytime soon then cutting the time spent in them by half is at least something.
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They'd better be upping the credits for any damage at the same time or the removal of the Win/ Loss reward will likely hurt more than the 'cadet' bump will help.
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HaemishM
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Quick aside, anyone else get a beta key for Mechwarrior Tactics?
I did.
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Arthur_Parker
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They'd better be upping the credits for any damage at the same time or the removal of the Win/ Loss reward will likely hurt more than the 'cadet' bump will help.
I'm not sure of the mechanics behind it. so unsure how foolproof they will be. but from the context of the text I believe the removal will only affect afk players. So everyone will continue to get rewards about the same level except for new players who will earn approx double cbills for their first 25 games. Not related to above, the mwo forums have started the "Run Hot or Die tournament" and some videos have been posted of 8 man drops if you like watching people argue over why they got killed.
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calapine
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Watching the Hawken videos in the PC/C Gaming forum reminded me of something I wanted to ask:
Why does MWO look so bad?
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Different talents for different people. I think that's really all.
Also, if you ask me, Hawken's levels look gorgeous and crazy amazing. The 'mechs? Not so much. I'll stick to MWO's.
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calapine
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Different talents for different people. I think that's really all.
Also, if you ask me, Hawken's levels look gorgeous and crazy amazing. The 'mechs? Not so much. I'll stick to MWO's.
Oh don't disagree regarding gameplay. As said by others it really looks like a FPS masquerading as mech game (not meaning that negative!). I wish MWO had Hawken's look and style though. Hopefully the DirectX 11 mode improves things, whenever it's coming back. Edit: Also get your ass out of Planetside 2 a bit. I want to have some mechplay with you!
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Falconeer
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No, I wasn't talking about gamplay. I meant I'll stick to MWO's 'mechs, for looks and graphics. I think Hawken is obviously superior in the environment's visuals, but definitely not so much in the mechs department.
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