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							As long as they release a couple of chassis a month in regular updates, I don't mind the slim pickings to start. 
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							I'm just hoping it isn't a steaming pile of crap. 
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							Ingmar
							
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							Optimism? From Ironwood? This game is doomed. 
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							The Transcendent One: AH... THE ROGUE CONSTRUCT. Nordom: Sense of closure: imminent. 
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							Ironwood
							
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							Optimism ?
  Don't be so fucking stupid - it's a free to play, so they need money somehow.  Every single mech chassis released after it goes live will cost a microtransaction to get into the cockpit.
  Remember, inevitable doesn't mean good.  See;  Death. 
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							Simond
							
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							I hope that they price-gouge the fuck out of people for Clanner tech. 
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							I really hope they copy world of tanks.  
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							Merusk
							
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							I really hope they copy world of tanks. 
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							I hope that they price-gouge the fuck out of people for Clanner tech.
  Well there is no Clan stuff for at least 1 year from launch.  Their game timeline uses our date with the year 3049.  
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							The only thing that annoys me is that seems like there will be about 15 'mechs out of the almost hundred we should be able to choose from. In World Of Tanks you might end up sticking to a handful, but you can still choose among a big lot. I'm afraid that will end up being disappointing in the long run. 
  I've kept all my tanks above tier IV, some tier II, and a lot of the premiums. There's just no way to play all those fucking tanks. If they have any sort of crew skills, even a basic, barebones system 15 tanks is more than plenty for a while.  
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							Talking about the founders packs etc, I think that personally I'd wait until the NDA was lifted before spending $60 on a F2P game pre-release. Just saying. 
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							Talking about the founders packs etc, I think that personally I'd wait until the NDA was lifted before spending $60 on a F2P game pre-release. Just saying.
  Yea. I wouldn't spend a dime on this until someone breaks the nda to you.  
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							So, are we getting a 'the NDA is broken as far as we're concerned once they start asking for cash' ruling on this?  They're essentially asking for people to buy the game tomorrow.
  'Cause yeah, I'm not handing some stranger sixty bucks for in-game items in something I haven't gotten to play, and am missing big swaths of details about. 
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							Wow, they're such great guys that they're now offering all four of the magical founder mechs for the low price of $120 for the game that nobody's gotten to play yet.  That's a steal! 
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							Please someone talk me out of buying the 120$ Legendary package. I feel weak. 
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							Ingmar
							
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							You need to save that money for Dungeon Bowl DLC! 
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							Kitsune
							
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							Don't buy it, Falcon.  There has yet to be one single independent review of the state of the game or how well it plays.  Allowances for being in beta and all, miracle patch etc, but huge swaths of the game are just a     right now.  Since they're now soliciting money, I'd hope that Schild will agree to unleash the NDA people so we can get some actual facts instead of some youtube footage.  
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							Don't buy it, Falcon.  There has yet to be one single independent review of the state of the game or how well it plays. 
  That's right. Thank you!  
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							I know I'll buy some sort of founder's package for this game but only if I get to beta it before (and it isn't a total wreck). 
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							Relevant information:  Are the Founders 'Mechs customizable?
  Yes that is the other good news that they are the Prime Variants they not only take up that position in the Mech Trees for you to work on but they remain fully customizable in the Mechlab.  how much is the c-bill boost?
  25% C-bill boost  They need to do colored developer posts so it's easier to find.  Pres is doing a Q&A in this thread:  http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/15037-russ-bullock-taking-questions-on-founders-now/page__st__20 
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							Yeah, additionally the premium membership bonus is 50% to money and experience.  Which also apparently made it into the e-mail but not into their website.
  Also mentioned, the founder mechs come with extra garage space to accommodate them, so you get your normal starting slots plus the ones occupied by the founder mech, rather than the founder mech eating one of your available mech bays.  Which is nice. 
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							Please someone talk me out of buying the 120$ Legendary package. I feel weak.
  Only reason I won't buy it is cuz I don't have that much cash to blow :(  
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							Farken hell! No wonder I never found this thread, it was in the MMO section. Falc, I read the email and bought Legendary straight away before even knowing there were f13 people interested... FARK, now to go through 9 pages pf awesomeness... Also what Houses are people playing?         
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							People are ponying up $120 gees for internet robots? To get XP boosts when no one even knows what XP will be good for? In a game where the current win condition could be read off the liver of a sacrificial goat?
  The "Mechs vs Tanks" thread was peculiar, but this shares a new level of bewilderment.  
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							Agreed.
  And I worship big fucking robots.
  
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							Have they said when this preorder period ends? 
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							$120 is a trivial amount for some people.  It just means not going out a few times that month or cutting back over the next few.   I know people who regularly blow that on a weekend's drinking. 
  Not that I'd do it or think either option is fiscally sane, but people do blow more cash on less.  I'm more surprised at the bewilderment. 
  Fuck, people blew that much on SWTOR and Diablo III sight-unseen too and nobody blinked an eye.  All you got there was some digital costumes and no real in-game advantages. 
  Also it's not XP it's in-game cash boost.  Cash buys you ammo, and parts.  Evidently (based on what the president was saying in the thread I linked) you need to spend the real-money cash to get mechs. (He stated that the $80 would get you 8-10 mediums, or a lot of smalls or a few heavies.)
  Gameplay & stability is the only real issue here, not the expenditure of cash. That's going to be required in some way or another. 
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							Considering I totally skipped Age of Conan & SWTOR as they both appeared to be flawed concepts, I feel quite justified dropping $120 on this.  I buy games so rarely now it's not even an issue. 
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							People are ponying up $120 gees for internet robots? 
  Quiet. If you stare too closely at the house of cards that is paying for computer games, you'll bring the whole thing crashing down around us.   
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							Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this! 
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							*whimper*
  I really want to blow some cash on this. But I really want to know it doesn't completely suck first. 
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							I'd like to share thought, since I'm sure hierarchically any consumer rights legislation trumps a video game agreement of secrecy when you're dealing with sums passed double digits, but there's at least one mod here who likely won't agree with that. Some may consider 120 bux chump-change or a night out on town, but in my little potato republic that's 6 hours in the company of a uptown prostitute. Also my liqueur budget for the whole summer.
  A Commando standing next to an Atlas is like Robot Dad with his Robot Son. It's so adorable! 
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							One thing I haven't checked: is there going to be any kind of persistency when it comes to war and the likes? Or is it all arenas after arenas? Can we create "guilds"? This is maybe the first time I'd really love to be part of an f13-kind-of-party. Do we need to all pick the same faction to make a guild (again, if possible)? I know it's premature considering some of us haven't preordered yet, but it's only 2 weeks 6 weeks away and I am rally looking forward to this. 
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							Liao.   
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