Rage

[tgr]

Just checked it. Ran sideways (strafing), hit the sprint button, no difference - kept running sideways (strafing).

Maybe you were doing it wrong?

Actually, no, you're testing the wrong thing because I explained it badly. I can't test it if they've changed this lately (I've got reports of them having done exactly this, however I haven't tested myself) because for some reason some games and programs won't start up now, but I'm in the middle of a battlefield series so I can't reboot yet.

Long story short, run (or sprint), try to keep running and go sideways. If DICE had done this properly, it would've just gracefully degraded the speed to a jog and let you go sideways, instead of just doing ... nothing.

[Azazel]

So anyway, Rage. Comes out tomorrow for you guys, right? Any reviews for this thing yet, or are they embargoed until after the release date?

[Velorath]

So anyway, Rage. Comes out tomorrow for you guys, right? Any reviews for this thing yet, or are they embargoed until after the release date?

Embargoed until midnight Eastern time I think.

[Surlyboi]

Kotaku has a hands-on. Granted it's Kotaku, but hey, I preordered on Steam so we'll see in a few hours.

[kildorn]

Kotaku has a hands-on. Granted it's Kotaku, but hey, I preordered on Steam so we'll see in a few hours. days when the servers finally decide to let you decrypt 21 gigs through the first day rush.

Not that I'm expecting anything like that :P

[RUiN 427]

IGN's review is up along with extended gameplay with commentary and minor spoilers... the graphic engine is redonkulous. Sounds like the story is weak, but I'm still getting it cause it looks fun and I'm a sucker for post apocalyptic shit.

[Surlyboi]

Literally unplayable.

Game crashes on startup. Carmack's response on twitter, "update your drivers". Updated drivers do the exact same thing.

Steam forums are on fire with people raging over... Rage.

[tgr]

Yeah, definitely looks like it'll be interesting on the PC. Sadly, they're using a 360 to record the videos on IGN, and it pains me to watch them flail about like they do, shooting wildly.

Fake edit: Uh. Crashes? Does it require the nvidia beta drivers, or might the beta drivers have a bug which RAGE is triggering?

Guess it's a good thing I won't get to play mine for another few days.

[NowhereMan]

If anything, their "soft nod" should've been implemented in such a manner that if you were trying to run sideways, you automatically slowed down to a jog, and sped up again when you stopped trying to strafe sideways. That would've enraged me a lot less, because in the implementation the last time I played, all it did was piss me off because I pressed a button to go sideways and nothing happened.

Kind of like the "hit shift to start running until you release the forward button". Let me hold shift for as long as I want to run, then slow down to a jog the instant I release it. How hard can it be.

Just checked it. Ran sideways (strafing), hit the sprint button, no difference - kept running sideways (strafing).

Maybe you were doing it wrong?

I think his point was that when sprinting forward, if you hit the sideways button you keep springint forwards. I'm assuming that's what it does because I can imagine that being something that would piss me off simply because it's stuff I can imagine doing from sheer habit and being annoyed that my last second jerk to the side didn't happen.

[KallDrexx]

ArsTechnica has a pretty scathing review.

[tgr]

That wasn't very nice.

[Surlyboi]

Better than the review I'll give it. At least he could play the fucking thing.

[Xuri]

The PC version suffers from some rather nasty texture streaming issues for a lot of people. I got the game running at a gazillion FPS, but the texture(it's just one, isn't it? MEGAtexture and whatnot? heh) that kept being reloaded every time I moved and every time I turned made it unplayable.

[Miasma]

I assumed it would just be a showpiece for their engine that looks great but sucks to play, same as Doom 3.  I hope you don't have to use that horrible flashlight in this one.

[Amaron]

So they made another tech demo and didn't even put in multiplayer this time?  

[kildorn]

Literally unplayable.

Game crashes on startup. Carmack's response on twitter, "update your drivers". Updated drivers do the exact same thing.

Steam forums are on fire with people raging over... Rage.

I had data execution prevention errors on startup (even though DEP is off.. which means it was doing something really really odd..), but a reboot cleared them up.

Both the updated ATI and the ATI Rage tuned drivers produce screen tearing, and HILARIOUS object flickering for me. Headache inducing object tear (that oldschool "oh hey one of my vertices MUST BE BEHIND YOU watch as I stretch to reach it!"), and items flickering out of the world for a second while you watch. Both my gun and random people. Objects would randomly turn white for half a second.

I don't know if it's just me, or my setup, or what.. but Rage is a technical disaster for me. I'm sure it pushes a lot of polygons or something, but it doesn't seem to do it on anything but iD's test lab.

[Sky]

ArsTechnica has a pretty scathing review.

Usually bugs me when you have a stock 'Resistance fighting the evil Authority', because usually the 'evil' of the authority has some pretty sound reasons (at worst, lawful evil) and the resistance is usually just a bunch of slackers (with hearts of gold, of course). The majority of these lore setups has me wanting to ditch the slackers and join up with the authority (unthinkable, of course).

[Mrbloodworth]

Why does this look so much like borderlands?

[kildorn]

ArsTechnica has a pretty scathing review.

Usually bugs me when you have a stock 'Resistance fighting the evil Authority', because usually the 'evil' of the authority has some pretty sound reasons (at worst, lawful evil) and the resistance is usually just a bunch of slackers (with hearts of gold, of course). The majority of these lore setups has me wanting to ditch the slackers and join up with the authority (unthinkable, of course).

It's post apocalyptic, and you're some high tech guy who just popped out of a vault and have a bounty on ark survivors. I'm just waiting for the "twist" that all of the authority are really ark survivors trying to retake the planet, and you should have been one of the bad guys all along, but you're totally a free spirit! GO AMERICA!

[kildorn]

Why does this look so much like borderlands?

Because it really wants to be borderlands. It wants to be a darker more edgy borderlands. Without the random loot or multiplayer.

So.. it wants to be Fallout, without the branching conversation trees, options, or character building.

I guess it really just wants to be Fallout 3, distilled to just a good shooter. Amusingly, iD implied this was destined to be a new franchise for them, and there will be more Rages.

[tgr]

So they made another tech demo and didn't even put in multiplayer this time?

I thought they had both coop and multiplayer, just the multiplayer was limited to driving?

Both the updated ATI and the ATI Rage tuned drivers produce screen tearing

Are the guys having issues with graphics nvidia users or ATI?

I'm not exactly encouraged over the problems mentioned, but I'm not convinced about the shooting aspect feeling bland. It doesn't look bland to me, it looks pretty weighty to me, but sigh, 2 days 9 hours till I can try for myself.

[kildorn]

As I understand it, the game plays fine with nVidia cards.

There's a texture popin issue that may be related to this:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25497361#post25497361

Basically, the game declares a cache directory, but forgets to create it. I've had no such issues though.

[Mrbloodworth]

ATI strikes again?

[Jherad]

Edit: Posted too soon! Anyway, some amazing textures there apparently, particularly on objects.

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLuOtGwLnzQ

Fun pop-in. REALLY glad I held off on this for now at least.

[jakonovski]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/04/raging-about-rage-pc/

Really sad that id resorts to a shitty port for a pc version. I was excited about this game and was going to buy it day 1, but I have an ATI card...

[Morfiend]

I have nvidia card and I have had this odd situation where everything starts shaking very fast, almost like my character glitched out and is bouncing very fast on the terrain. If I run for like 10 seconds it goes away.

Also, the base sounds fucking horrible on my headphones. I could get better sound out of my iphone speaker. Gah, bit again by not waiting for release day reviews. Will I never learn.

[Mrbloodworth]

ATI was also responsible for the poor performance in Brink. ( Whos engine uses some very similar techniques )

[jakonovski]

ATI was also responsible for the poor performance in Brink. ( Whos engine uses some very similar techniques )

AMD/ATI doesn't force developers to make games that don't work on their cards. Id should've put a big disclaimer, "only supports Nvidia cards", on their game.

edit: Brink actually worked ok on my 4890, although patches improved performance quite a bit.

[kildorn]

Brink ran more than fine on my ATI.

I mean, I loathe ATI's driver developers because they.. suck? But seriously, if you publish a game, you already KNEW this, because your QA department was running at the very least an nVidia and an ATI card, and had damned well better not be running some custom assed driver for the release QA pass. They should be running the latest published driver so you can go "hey, douchebags, this DOESN'T WORK"

[jakonovski]

From the RPS comments section:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I91AG2BhcI

[Sky]

Smokey Robinson wants to sing "Shoes of a Clown" for Carmack.

[kildorn]

So apparently ATI bundled ages old OpenGL in their rage specific drivers. Fixed driver incoming tonight. Expect more hilarious clownshoes from it, since it's ATI working under a time crunch.

[Mrbloodworth]

ATI was also responsible for the poor performance in Brink. ( Whos engine uses some very similar techniques )

AMD/ATI doesn't force developers to make games that don't work on their cards. Id should've put a big disclaimer, "only supports Nvidia cards", on their game.

edit: Brink actually worked ok on my 4890, although patches improved performance quite a bit.

Except, you are forgetting. When engine advancements are pushed, there is cooperative work between the engine manufacturer, and card developers. Time and time again ATI falls behind in support, even with this cooperation. We are talking about two engines that push the capabilities of hardware and drive manufactures. The problem is not that ATI does not eventually get around to adding or improving support, its that with each flagship engine, they fail to provide that stability when the engine launches its flagship title, and many times, beyond.

From the RPS comments section:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I91AG2BhcI

Running ATI, same issue brink had. Imagine that.

[jakonovski]

Id is the one hawking a 50 euro game at me, carefully omitting the fact that it probably does not work.

[Mrbloodworth]

Id is the one hawking a 50 euro game at me, carefully omitting the fact that it probably does not work.

Very true. I'm just commenting that once again...ATI.