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naum
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For example, Intel was still using it as of last year. Google tells me lots of financial institutions are as well. SO, yeah, we wonder why there's been tons of hacks.
Google (not universally, but most of their services) and many other purveyors of online web services (as well as sites I support) do not support IE6, and have not for at least a year or more. As I wrote this, I pulled up some analytics, both for personal blog traffic and organizational sites I tend to -- in both cases, IE 6 amounted to barely over 1% of all IE users for both sets of data. Surprising thing is that IE usage now, even on the organizational sites (which skew older, and less tech literate, most likely those who surf with the default settings), has now dipped under 50% -- still in lead at 47%, but Firefox at 21%, Safari at 14%, Chrome at 11%, and Android growing large at 5% (though iPod + iPhone + iPad is also at 5% too). OS usage -- 72% Win, ~15% Mac (not counting 5% on iPod/iPad/iPhone). Again, these are mainly for a religious/non-profit organization -- main site + blogs + other offshoot sites. On personal blogs, mostly on Tumblr, which represents a far younger and tech savvy crowd (and Mac faithful, which is not necessarily also tech-savvy ;)), IE is ~12%, dwarfed by Chrome (34%), Firefox (27%), and Safari (25%). OS usage still tilts Win, but not by much -- Win (54%), Mac (39%). Probably the figures here skew heavy Windows, as most game developers still myopically ignore Mac market… Sorry, went off on a tangent, as I was perusing the numbers… …TL:DR, IE6 comprises a little over 1% of ALL IE (running the gamut from IE 6 (well, I did note 1 user with IE 5.5!) - IE9) users.
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"Should the batman kill Joker because it would save more lives?" is a fundamentally different question from "should the batman have a bunch of machineguns that go BATBATBATBATBAT because its totally cool?". ~Goumindong
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Salamok
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For example, Intel was still using it as of last year. Google tells me lots of financial institutions are as well. SO, yeah, we wonder why there's been tons of hacks.
Google (not universally, but most of their services) and many other purveyors of online web services (as well as sites I support) do not support IE6, and have not for at least a year or more. As I wrote this, I pulled up some analytics, both for personal blog traffic and organizational sites I tend to -- in both cases, IE 6 amounted to barely over 1% of all IE users for both sets of data. Surprising thing is that IE usage now, even on the organizational sites (which skew older, and less tech literate, most likely those who surf with the default settings), has now dipped under 50% -- still in lead at 47%, but Firefox at 21%, Safari at 14%, Chrome at 11%, and Android growing large at 5% (though iPod + iPhone + iPad is also at 5% too). OS usage -- 72% Win, ~15% Mac (not counting 5% on iPod/iPad/iPhone). Again, these are mainly for a religious/non-profit organization -- main site + blogs + other offshoot sites. On personal blogs, mostly on Tumblr, which represents a far younger and tech savvy crowd (and Mac faithful, which is not necessarily also tech-savvy ;)), IE is ~12%, dwarfed by Chrome (34%), Firefox (27%), and Safari (25%). OS usage still tilts Win, but not by much -- Win (54%), Mac (39%). Probably the figures here skew heavy Windows, as most game developers still myopically ignore Mac market… Sorry, went off on a tangent, as I was perusing the numbers… …TL:DR, IE6 comprises a little over 1% of ALL IE (running the gamut from IE 6 (well, I did note 1 user with IE 5.5!) - IE9) users. ie 5.5 + ie 6 accounts for about 5% of the traffic at my work, still a fair few ie 6 holdouts in government. Oddly enough our IT dept switched us from ie6 to ie7 about a year ago, then 3 months ago they bumped us to ie8 stating that ie7 was just too dated... I guess once over the ie6 hurdle it becomes easier to stay current.
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Quinton
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One of the reasons they're not throwing invites wide open yet is that they do want to use the Field Test to find and fix the most painful issues turned up before going to a full public launch of the product. This post from the Social Graph Tech Lead covers some of the issues turned up in the first week of Field Test: https://plus.google.com/115740425396974668440/posts/aPEjvaPtfprHey Everyone,
I wanted to thank everyone for the great feedback you have all provided. We are starting to iterate on solutions to some of the first round of obvious issues, so keep checking back to see what's changing =)
As several people have mentioned in other posts, I'm the Technical Lead of the Social Graph team. We are responsible for most of the parts in the product that allow you to view/edit/find circles or people.
I work very closely with Consumer Operations, Project Managers, other leaders on the team, UX designers and the like to help triage all of the incoming feedback and decide the priorities and solutions. Over the last few days I've received close to 100 emails/posts about ideas. I've been completely quiet with public posts, but I think it's about time I at least tell you all that I've received your feedback and I'm in the process of working with others to triage it. Here is an unordered/incomplete list of the types of feedback social graph has been receiving:
* Some way of having hierarchical or sub-circles or some way of doing set logic (This and this but not that). * Easier way of dragging people from one circle to another. * Reordering circles * Gets a little "clunky" sometimes, freezes up, etc.. * "Sharing" your circle. * Filtering suggestion by high school / employer / etc... * Easier to reciprocate relationships * Too many random people following me, don't want to block them, but don't want to see them either. * Out of sync if you add someone from the top bar, they aren't in the main page. * Lots of duplicates in suggestions * Inconsistent results in autocomplete. * Import groups from gmail, orkut, etc.. * I want my vanity domain to work.
I've received tons of feedback about other parts of the product as well, and I've sent them to the right people...this post is only focusing on my team's responsibilities.
We are already working on addressing a lot of your feedback, so, like I mentioned before, keep checking back. If I don't write back, it's only because of the volume of feedback I've received. You guys, our users, rock! So, keep banging on our product, we hope to make it the best social network on the planet!
Cheers,
Eric
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Lakov_Sanite
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Looking for an invite myself if anyone has a spare.
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~a horrific, dark simulacrum that glares balefully at us, with evil intent.
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fuser
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Bah no support for Google Apps domain's 
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« Last Edit: July 06, 2011, 07:11:38 AM by fuser »
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Quinton
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Bah no support for Google Apps domain's  It's in the works. I'm annoyed that it wasn't ready at field trial launch and that some day I'll have to move everything over from my (otherwise unused) @gmail.com account to my domain account.
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KallDrexx
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Bah no support for Google Apps domain's  It's in the works. I'm annoyed that it wasn't ready at field trial launch and that some day I'll have to move everything over from my (otherwise unused) @gmail.com account to my domain account. Google apps is like the bastard child of Google. A lot of stuff doesn't work with GApps accounts, and less works right if you have your gmail and gapps accounts linked. It's quite annoying, or was when I was testing it out a few months back.
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HaemishM
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Anyone still got any invites?
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Prospero
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PM me an email address and I'll try to add you.
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Mazakiel
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Finally got in a bit ago. I'm liking what I see so far, though I need to dig around it a bit more. I'm looking forward to when it opens up some more.
I can try adding people as well, so if anyone's interested, go ahead and PM me an email address.
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Kitsune
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It worked, thanks Prospero!
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Prospero
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No problem. If anyone else needs in let me know. Given that they doubled the pool I suspect there is a fair amount of space still for early adopters to get in.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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No problem. If anyone else needs in let me know. Given that they doubled the pool I suspect there is a fair amount of space still for early adopters to get in.
PM sent.. since I have been on their "waiting" list for weeks now, why not prime the pump and see what happens.
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Morfiend
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Plus invites are open. Send me a PM right now with your email and I can get you in.
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Morfiend
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I sent invites to the people who emailed me. The button went away right as I was doing it, so im not sure if the invites actually went out. If anyone didnt get an invite, I will save the emails and send out invites as soon as it opens again.
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Chimpy
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I got an invite from a friend last night but it would not let me accept.
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'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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Bann
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I got in this morning. Once I got in, I saw that I had 5 people who had tried to invite me. The way I got in however was by going to the page with the button that says "keep me posted" and randomly refreshing while working this morning. On one of these refreshes, the "keep me posted" button was gone and there was a small form to fill out. Hope it helps for those on the hunt.
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Morfiend
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Invites are open again. PM me your email if you want one.
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MuffinMan
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So how much of this is an actual field trial and how much is them wanting to create a ferver by limiting invites.
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Ozzu
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I'm in and it appears I can invite folks. PM your email and I'll send them along.
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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I'm in as well...If we want to have some sort of F13 network (even though you can't create centralized groups, for now), maybe we should reveal our seekret real name and surname :P (in private, of course...*naughty*)
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RhyssaFireheart
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Hmm, I have a "send invites" button showing in my G+ page, so I'm guessing I can invite folks. Let me know if anyone needs in and I'll try sending them out.
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MuffinMan
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I'm in as well...If we want to have some sort of F13 network (even though you can't create centralized groups, for now), maybe we should reveal our seekret real name and surname :P (in private, of course...*naughty*)
It would end up just as dead as the facebook group which looks like it will be automatically deleted soon, actually.
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Surlyboi
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In, thanks for the invite.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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slog
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So, is this really going to compete well with Facebook, or is it another Google thing that would be forgotten about in a few months?
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Surlyboi
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50-50 one way or the other.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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HaemishM
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Ok, I'm in. Anyone need invites or want in my circle who already is in?
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naum
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Ok, I'm in. Anyone need invites or want in my circle who already is in?
Just look for "Naum". I think I am the only "Naum" on G+. If not, pick the pensive looking dude in the hockey helmet. Or not.
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"Should the batman kill Joker because it would save more lives?" is a fundamentally different question from "should the batman have a bunch of machineguns that go BATBATBATBATBAT because its totally cool?". ~Goumindong
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HaemishM
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Gotcha added.
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RhyssaFireheart
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Holy hell, Naum! How do you have that many people in your circles already? Are you a friend whore? :p
I'd love to add more folks to my circles, so what's the easiest way to do that without PMing my email and/or name to everyone? Doesn't make it easier.
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MuffinMan
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I'd love to add more folks to my circles, so what's the easiest way to do that without PMing my email and/or name to everyone? Doesn't make it easier.
Looking for people from here? You could do some internet stalking, narrow us down by mutual friends.
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naum
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Holy hell, Naum! How do you have that many people in your circles already? Are you a friend whore? :p
I'd love to add more folks to my circles, so what's the easiest way to do that without PMing my email and/or name to everyone? Doesn't make it easier.
It's actually easy if you steer clear of the "Circles" tab, what I originally thought was the obvious place to do that. But, as people add me (I just hover over the notification and slide them into a circle). Some others (RL friends) slurped up from other RL friends and the people search. That circles UI is clunky compared to just hover + click. I've been using "circles" like Twitter lists: Friends (those I know in RL or have had an abundance of e-communication) Hackers Tumblrs Podcampers Media (where Scoble, Leo, gruber-bot, and the rest of the sycophantic media panoply, as well as establishment media, citizen journos and politics bloggers) Politics (for politicians) Artists (actors, comics too) Google (most here I clipped from Sergey, Larry, Marissa) People of the Way (for us Jesus hippies) Gamers (where I will slot you F13ers) Authors (probably the only Twitter list I read devotedly)
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"Should the batman kill Joker because it would save more lives?" is a fundamentally different question from "should the batman have a bunch of machineguns that go BATBATBATBATBAT because its totally cool?". ~Goumindong
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MuffinMan
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Ok, I'm in. Anyone need invites or want in my circle who already is in?
Just look for "Naum". I think I am the only "Naum" on G+. If not, pick the pensive looking dude in the hockey helmet. Or not. Think I found you, I'm also in a hockey helmet.
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RhyssaFireheart
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I'd love to add more folks to my circles, so what's the easiest way to do that without PMing my email and/or name to everyone? Doesn't make it easier.
Looking for people from here? You could do some internet stalking, narrow us down by mutual friends. Well, right now the only F13ers I have are naum and apocrypha, but considering I only have like 4 people in my list, it wouldn't be hard to figure out who they are, lol! That's a good idea for sorting folks, naum. Not sure I'd need that many circles but it makes sense to group people like that. I tend towards lazy and just add folks and never go back to sort them later, which is why FB groups are a mess.
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naum
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Gotcha added.
And I remembered to add you to my G+ (and Twitter) "authors" collection too! You're in select company with William Gibson, John Hodgman, Raph Koster, Richard Florida, Cornel West, David Brin, John Dean, Alan Jacobs, Neil Gaiman, Frank Shaeffer, Paul Krugman, Steven Levy, Peter Rollins, danah boyd, Cory Doctorow and 100+ others :D
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"Should the batman kill Joker because it would save more lives?" is a fundamentally different question from "should the batman have a bunch of machineguns that go BATBATBATBATBAT because its totally cool?". ~Goumindong
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