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Brolan
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Reply #35 on: June 18, 2011, 02:18:56 PM

They're already got everybody they're gonna get based on sandbox PvP...there's no more money to be made there.

It's not the PvP crowd they've milked to the max.   Really it doesn't matter what they do.   They can't get mass market appeal with the systems they have.   At the same time people will quit if they change those systems.  That's probably why CCP has been so desperate to get something else going via Dust or their shitty vampire MMO.

I'm surprised someone hasn't created the WoW version of Eve and proceeded to eat CCP's lunch.  Eve reminds me so much of Everquest in its early days.
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Reply #36 on: June 18, 2011, 03:44:27 PM

their shitty vampire MMO.

When that shitty Vampire MMO turns out to be excellent, and to finally be the one that succeeds beyond its first few months, I am going to laugh at all of you.

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Reply #37 on: June 18, 2011, 03:48:15 PM

their shitty vampire MMO.

When that shitty Vampire MMO turns out to be excellent, and to finally be the one that succeeds beyond its first few months, I am going to laugh at all of you.

Unless they name it "Twilight Online" and allow you to play as goth chicks, emo fags or native american 'rebels', it'll be a shitty MMO.

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Reply #38 on: June 18, 2011, 05:02:03 PM

WoD has three of the four.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Kageru
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Reply #39 on: June 18, 2011, 09:16:42 PM

These days? There is no BoB, and Eve is sadder for it.

There's always an evil empire packed with smug elitists who need taking down a peg or two. It's how these games work. It's why people get so sucked in.

At the moment in addition to DRF I'd say PL have some claim to be the new BoB although they have the sense not to claim sov anywhere so they're not really an empire. They are smug elitists who need taking down a peg or two, very much like Bob were 4 years ago.

Did they have meaningful opposition 4 years ago? Because the current game mechanics and political landscape is pretty much unipolar.

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luckton
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Reply #40 on: June 19, 2011, 11:16:34 AM

They're already got everybody they're gonna get based on sandbox PvP...there's no more money to be made there.

It's not the PvP crowd they've milked to the max.   Really it doesn't matter what they do.   They can't get mass market appeal with the systems they have.   At the same time people will quit if they change those systems.  That's probably why CCP has been so desperate to get something else going via Dust or their shitty vampire MMO.

I'm surprised someone hasn't created the WoW version of Eve and proceeded to eat CCP's lunch.  Eve reminds me so much of Everquest in its early days.

We had Earth and Beyond.  I think if E&B came out today, it'd be a huge success with all of the tech that's come since it sunk.

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Reply #41 on: June 19, 2011, 02:27:52 PM

That's not the only Space-WoW. The other obvious example is SWG-NGE, which thousands of players switched away from in order to play EVE.

The Diku/EQ/WoW following is entirely different from the UO/SWG/EVE following. Treating them as interchangable has already cost various people millions of dollars.

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Amaron
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Reply #42 on: June 20, 2011, 08:38:36 AM

We had Earth and Beyond.  I think if E&B came out today, it'd be a huge success with all of the tech that's come since it sunk.

I don't know about that.   E&B didn't fail because the tech was hard.   Making a space ship game where you can't buy new space ships wasn't exactly a testament for their future success.
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