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TripleDES
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on: May 21, 2011, 05:57:30 AM

I'm reposting my shit from SA!

A friend has married abroad. Soon after, after-wedding party invitations flew in. A bunch of friends and I grouped up to collect for a present. At some point, we decided, fuck presents, because you rarely find something one might actually like or want. Quickly it was decided, we'll be gifting money.

But sure as hell, there's gonna be a catch...

The idea came quickly, as unoriginal as it was, since it probably has been done to death. In some form, anyway. We'll get a load of coins and encase them in a cube of something. Everyone agreed and was happy about it.

But in what? Concrete? Fuck no, while the easiest way out for making the encasement, the guy might actually call it quits trying to get the coins out. Especially if he'll postpone it and lets the concrete dry even more. And it was been done often enough. The next idea was salt. You could make it look like one of those silly salt lamps. But fuck that, too, because salt has a melting point of like 800°C. Kinda impractical. Next up was ballistic gel. Too expensive. The runner up was something called Agar Agar. I don't know what the fuck it is, but if you'll ask a vegetarian, he'll probably be able to tell you. But we've been told they also use that stuff in petri dishes. So it was disqualified for impracticality, too, because we didn't want mold growing on it over night. Then we figured, sugar would be nice. Since you can turn it into caramel, which is pretty hard when cold.

So it was decided. One night, we did a little prototype. Some square tubing did the trick. That was what came of it:



Thanks to some beer, we started brainstorming a bit. The proto-cube kinda looked nice on that stainless steel plate. Thus we decided, it needs to have a pedestal, which would also make it easier to transport. We were also pretty surprised how translucent it ended up, even if the picture doesn't show. We wanted to check the internal structure due to cracks that formed, thanks to a nearby flashlight and some more beer, it was decided that it's going to be a fucking lamp. To illuminate all coins in the cube. By putting a bunch of LEDs in the bottom.

After deciding on some proportions, trying to be dorky, a CGI version was attempted. It was next to impossible to figure out the translucency of caramel. Apparently no one cares about that sort of information. After a lot of Googling, we stumbled upon some values and put them in. Then we let it render using some "physically based renderer". If it's "physically accurate" as it claims, our lamp idea looked less feasible. Anyway, here's the stupid concept render:



As you'll notice, the coins are barely visible or even illuminated.

It was going to become a 30x30x30cm cube of sugar on a 40x40x5cm stainless steel pedestal. The measurements of the cube result in 27 liters. Thanks to Wikipedia we found out that the density of sugar is 1.6kg per liter. That means we'd need a little more than 43kg of sugar. One kilo of sugar has 4000kcal, at least that's what it says on the packaging.

Well, here it is:



One of us works in metal construction, so he made the pedestal, including LEDs. And the walls to pour the shit in. The tape means nothing, the walls were tack-welded. There's a bunch of plexiglass tubes on the LEDs. It was improvised during construction as a temperature protection (see later) and to transport the light away from the pedestal. And there's a bunch of screws to hold the cube in place, altho the prototype proved that caramel sticks like shit.





During the research, if you could call that, we found out that the color of the resulting caramel, when melting sugar, depends on the temperature. Staying below 140-145°C is supposed to keep it relatively clear altho golden. This is a good thing to know, since it was still supposed to be a lamp. We proceeded to scientifically determine the setting we should run the induction hob at:



With that done, lets start melting sugar:



Jesus Christ, it's barely melting. Fuck it! Up the power!





Okay, that's better. Sadly, it began to darken more than we'd like. And there's lot of entrapped air in the soup. Ah well, it's half improvised, so things will not go as wished. Anyway, it's melted, let's start building the cube.



The liquid should have a guesstimated 160°C, if not hotter. We were worried that our LEDs would break under that stress. Turns out not so.



Wheeeee, they still work.

Anyway, we put another pot on the hob and started melting more sugar.



At a certain level, we let it stay a little to cool and lose some energy. Then we dropped some coins into it. They reached the bottom pretty quickly. The idea was to layer them in. The caramel didn't however lose heat quickly enough to lose some viscosity. So it required an industrial cooling solution.



Turned out later on that this didn't really help. We decided to continue to fill the cube, and drop the coins in at a later point, when it looked like the viscosity was lowering.

Packages were being emptied...



The form was filling up...



At this point, I had to go on my nightshift, and there's no pictures of this. It's not like anything exciting was going to happen anymore. It took almost three hours to fill it up to the point in the picture above. During this we overboiled one pot however, which required cleaning up the hob, so time was lost there. Another hour, and it was full. It was left cooling off for an hour, until my friends lost temper and dropped the coins into it.

Then it was left to cool off two days. It actually took that long, because after 24 hours, it was still pretty warm.

This is what it looked today:



A dremel was applied to remove the tack-welds. Then we removed the wall plating. It came off pretty quickly, which was surprising, because we expected to have to heat it with a torch first. It broke some of the edges, tho.

The glass like aggregate we expected never came to be. The part of it being a lamp turned out to be a massive failure. A 250lumen LED flashlight barely managed to shine through even the edges. Ah well.

This is the end result:







We don't know where the money ended up. Seeing the different layers, we hope it isn't on the bottom.

I hope our friend will have a nice time picking this apart. He could break off pieces and put it in his coffee, hoping to net an Euro out of it every time. Or put it in the shower or bathroom, under running water, making a whole damn mess of the room and drain. Or he could hose it off in his garden, ensuring multiple ant colonies. Anything involving water will sure as hell result in a big fucking mess, as we noticed when cleaning up the hob after the fuck up, as well as cleaning the pots.

Well, at this point, it won't be our problem anymore.

We still didn't figure out what the fuck we were doing, either.

 why so serious? why so serious? why so serious? why so serious?

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Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 06:16:09 AM

That is hilarious and awesome.

Only thing I can figure is on the visible "layers" would have been to heat multiple pots (enough to fill the entire cube at once) and dump them all at the same time. This might have eliminated the layering and the bubbles?

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Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 06:35:16 AM

One giant pot would have been the best way.  Cooling it probably helped lead to the layer formation as well, even though it maintained heat for quite some time.  The temperature variation was enough for stratification.

Still awesome though!

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Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 06:44:05 AM

A giant pot would have been a pain in the ass. The small ones were already suboptimal. A big one might have created a worse temperature difference. Too hot at the bottom, too cold at the top.

Then again, after posting this on SA, I've gotten tips that I should have used corn syrup or cook it in water. I'd say next time, but the idea works only once.

The poor sap who'll marry next is getting a steel cube made of little compartments with coins in each. We figured the easiest way to do is to cut up a square tube into cubes and tack-weld them together in 90° angles.  why so serious?

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Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 07:37:08 AM

That is really cool, and wacky.

As someone commented on SA, the best bet would have been to dissolve it in water first, and do it in a large pot, on the stove, and then gradually bring down the heat. But I still think it turned out neat.
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Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 08:02:32 AM

That is really cool.  So much so, I'd say screw the coins in it, and get it encased in some sort of clear plastic, or maybe carbonite, and put it in the living room.

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Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 08:11:51 AM

That crossed our minds, but that'd be a dickish way to throw 400 Euros away, too.

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Reply #7 on: May 21, 2011, 08:17:07 AM

Seriously awesome! And relevant to my own search for an appropriate present. (Although I feel this is too much of a mess)
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Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 08:23:36 AM

The missus says you should use isomalt next time you attempt that. Apparently, it preserves consistency. A big freezer also helps.

Still pretty fucking awesome though.

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Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 08:34:16 AM

Although I feel this is too much of a mess.
Hell yes it is. We overcooked one pot and it foamed like mad. The whole hob was messed up. Luckily it was an induction type, so it didn't end up in burned sugar all over it. Still a mess to clean up.

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Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 10:39:18 AM

Found this. Looks like it has a lighter color and more clear crystalline appearance.



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Rock Sugar: Rock sugar, also known as crystal rock sugar or rock candy, is made from a solution of white sugar, brown sugar, honey and water, brought to a boil. The syrup is allowed to crystallize, and it forms beautiful lumps of yellowish sugar candy which look rather like rough citrine gemstones. Rock sugar is used as a flavoring agent in braised dishes, primarily red cooked dishes from southern China, but it isn’t just a sweetener. The flavor is unique, in that it partakes of both the flavors of brown and white sugar, and the fragrance of honey, but it can be approximated by using raw sugar mixed with honey in a recipe.


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Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 10:57:22 AM

Oh, you just melted it?  Yeah, should have used some water to help dissolve it.  Hot water will melt sugar pretty well, and then it tends to crystallize when it cools.  Rock candy is made by super-heating a sugar solution and then letting the string act as a seed.

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Reply #12 on: May 23, 2011, 07:58:03 AM

Note to self:  If you're ever going to melt a giant volume of sugar, make a post on F13 first.
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Reply #13 on: May 23, 2011, 02:18:14 PM

Were you all intentionally trying to torture the guy? Having to melt a huge block of sugar to get at a few Euros? What a mess - and I would never put that in my coffee - you don't know where that money has been!

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Reply #14 on: May 23, 2011, 03:15:57 PM

Yeah, I'd be a little hesitant to consume moneyed sugar.  I don't think I'd want to melt it down anyway, though.  I'd much rather have a one-of-a-kind sugar lamp that was handmade just for me than a few hundred bucks.
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Reply #15 on: May 23, 2011, 03:25:24 PM

Yeah, I'd be a little hesitant to consume moneyed sugar.  I don't think I'd want to melt it down anyway, though.  I'd much rather have a one-of-a-kind sugar lamp that was handmade just for me than a few hundred bucks.
Pretty sure you'd want to coat it with some kind of varnish, maybe polyurethane-based.  Otherwise the bugs would find it...attractive.

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Reply #16 on: May 23, 2011, 03:30:24 PM

One could easily sterilize all the coins first and then encase in the sugar.

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Reply #17 on: May 23, 2011, 03:30:34 PM

Were you all intentionally trying to torture the guy?



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Reply #18 on: May 23, 2011, 03:47:30 PM

Yeah, I'd be a little hesitant to consume moneyed sugar.  I don't think I'd want to melt it down anyway, though.  I'd much rather have a one-of-a-kind sugar lamp that was handmade just for me than a few hundred bucks.
Pretty sure you'd want to coat it with some kind of varnish, maybe polyurethane-based.  Otherwise the bugs would find it...attractive.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  Help keep it from melting on humid days too.   awesome, for real
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Reply #19 on: May 23, 2011, 05:35:03 PM

Were you all intentionally trying to torture the guy?
- pictures -

Take that as a yes.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #20 on: May 24, 2011, 12:54:18 AM

Dude was awful polite to not just chuck that in a dumpster as soon as nobody was looking, money inside or not.

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Reply #21 on: May 24, 2011, 02:18:35 AM

Would you throw 400€ away?

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Reply #22 on: May 24, 2011, 02:37:05 AM

If you're going to be doing it again and the focus is more on giving them money than causing them annoyance maybe consider some sort of gelatin or aspic cube? Seriously cool idea though and the drill picture is fantastic.

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Reply #23 on: May 24, 2011, 03:53:21 AM

Actually, it's going to get worse...

The poor sap who'll marry next is getting a steel cube made of little compartments with coins in each. We figured the easiest way to do is to cut up a square tube into cubes and tack-weld them together in 90° angles.  why so serious?
Then again, that involves welding together 512 cubes if we stay with an 8x8x8 cube.

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Reply #24 on: May 24, 2011, 05:50:27 AM

He should just leave that there as a feast for ants...

I hope you're gonna share with us all the evil things the posters at SA come up with, photoshopping this..

I had some ideas myself, and wonder how many of these already have been posted at SA:



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