Sony's PSN down "for a day or two"

[Rendakor]

Is Wipeout the F-Zero-esque racing game? Or something based on the TV show?

[Minvaren]

Wipeout is based off the PS2 series Wip3out, and is the TechnoPunk version of F-Zero.  Which also was quite fun.

...man, I need to beat Wip3out: Fusion one of these days.

[ffc]

Infamous is a pretty good super-hero game.

All I remember is the goofy jogging animation and being surprised (in a bad way) it played like a 3rd person shooter. There's a demo if anyone wants to try it before spending $0 on it.

[Azazel]

So I got an email today telling me that I have a free 45-days n my EQ accounts, since it's a station game.

Do I bother trying to take my wife on a Tour of Guk, etc? Last time they had a "please come back" we did Qeynos, some of the Karanas, Kithicor, the Commons, Nek forest and the DE city and Skyfire (and got lost in SolA). Hopped to Iceclad, got lost trying to find the Ry'Gorr Orcs, then finished in Crystal Caverns.

hmm...


Is that PS3 Wipeout Multiplayer-only?

I've got InFamous and LBP.. the others.. they don't excite me.

[MuffinMan]

I just installed from my EQ release CD. It refused to update so I played through the tutorial instead.

[Yegolev]

[Amaron]

Wow I really didn't think it was possible for a company that large to take a 10% stock hit over this in the span of a month. The CEO came out and made the comment that "he cannot guarantee the security of any network in the "bad new world" of cybercrime."  

Yea this is such BS.   I'm going to bet Sony isn't going to do something obvious like roll out two factor authorization via cell phones.   I'm hoping to see a lot more services offering it soon at least as a result of this.   There's a LOT of clownshoeing going on out there.   Yahoo doesn't even offer it and GMail only offers a somewhat clumsy cell phone SMS thing.

[Azazel]

So I updated my firmware to 3.61

Now even on a static menu screen I get flickering and the picture drops out for a second, then it's stable, then I get flickering, then the picture drops out for a second, then....
Since I actually spent 30mins or so gaming on my PS3 on the weekend and no cable has so much as been bumped, I think it's the firmware.

I googled it and it seems that R* are blaming the new firmware for issues people are having with LA Noire, and drop-outs have been a semi-common issue on PS3s for years. I don't really give too much of a shit about gaming on it right now, but I do want to use it as a Blu-Ray player. Sony are fucking clownshoes. I'm glad the majority of my games are on 360, and it's doubtful whether I'll buy a PS4 since it seems to be just fuckup after fuckup with this thing (my machine shits itself on ingame FMV as well.)

[Prospero]

Yea this is such BS.   I'm going to bet Sony isn't going to do something obvious like roll out two factor authorization via cell phones.   I'm hoping to see a lot more services offering it soon at least as a result of this.   There's a LOT of clownshoeing going on out there.   Yahoo doesn't even offer it and GMail only offers a somewhat clumsy cell phone SMS thing.

Google accounts have a smart phone app you can use for proper two factor authentication. It's quite nice.

[Teleku]

I just installed from my EQ release CD. It refused to update so I played through the tutorial instead.

Jesus fuck, I remember that.  I have a release EQ CD laying around as well.  Launch day week of EQ nobody could get onto the god damn servers, so I fucked around with that in the mean time.  It was sooo fucking horrible.  It scares me to think there was a time when a company could actually release something that unfinished and bad, and not be imprisoned in San Quinton for mass fraud.

Though it gave me a good insight into what I should have expected for the future.  EQ was my first MMO (well, I played Neverwinter nights on AOL, and some muds, but those dont count).  Opening day, when nobody could get in, the chat room on the launch screen was filled with people typing "Fuck!" over and over again as fast as they could.  Hundreds of them, including myself.  The chat room was frozen and a mod came on, gloating that he had the names of everybody misbehaving, and if we didn't stop, punishment would be handed out.  As soon as he unfroze the chat room, twice as much verbal abuse was thrown out (again, including me).  Jack shit happened to anybody.

[Tale]

Original EQ1 CD installations haven't worked for many years. It looks for a patch server that stopped existing around Luclin or PoP era. Their answer is "oh you can just download the client".

You're far better off messing with Project 1999 if you want an original EQ experience for free. The current EQ live UI and gameplay is alien to anyone who played in the old days, but P1999 emulates the early years almost flawlessly and has a similar population to the original EQ1 servers. Currently their world is Original + Kunark, likely adding Velious in a year or two.

[Amaron]

Google accounts have a smart phone app you can use for proper two factor authentication. It's quite nice.

But what if you want to go to Gmail on the smart phone?  You completely lose two factor that way.

Something as important as Gmail should have those things for your keyring available at least.

[taolurker]

I too am planning on messing with the 45 free days I received to Station games, and since I had the Station Pass, it means I have numerous different games to play.

Was shocked to see all of my SWG possessions and decorated housing still survived, but somehow Sony lost 4 of my characters in EQ during server merges. I was entertaining the thought of happily exploring my old haunts in EQ, but obviously that's been majorly sidetracked (if anyone is interested I posted the full drama of missing characters on another forum).

I still have tons of money and items in PotBS (Antigua server) and SWG (Bloodfin server) should anyone be interested in searching through millions of things for something they might find useful... Send a PM if interested.

[cironian]

But what if you want to go to Gmail on the smart phone?  You completely lose two factor that way.

Why? You still use something you know (the password) and something you physically hold (the phone) to establish your identity, same as when you are logging into gmail through your browser. The fact that your browser runs on the same phone doesn't really change that.

[Mrbloodworth]

Heh, last few news items on that P1999 are about hacks and DB wankery.

[Amaron]

Why? You still use something you know (the password) and something you physically hold (the phone) to establish your identity, same as when you are logging into gmail through your browser. The fact that your browser runs on the same phone doesn't really change that.

For one the concept of one factor being something you "hold" means that nobody but you has access to it.   It's always on you or in your sight and thus is not likely to be compromised without you knowing it.   A smart phone doesn't fully meet this condition because it can easily be remotely compromised without you knowing it.    Thus it is not truly an object you "hold".   It's way better than no two factor at all though mind you.   For something like WoW or semi-important stuff it's plenty good enough.

For email though you will probably check Gmail via the phone and if you're phone is compromised then suddenly you've lost both the factors at once.

Like I said though I'm not saying this is dumb or anything.   Using the cell phone app is wayyyy better than not using it.

[Prospero]

If the fuckers have my phone, them reading my father in-laws latest chain mail is the least of my concerns. I'm still sad there isn't an explode option for the iPhone find my phone feature.

[Amaron]

If the fuckers have my phone, them reading my father in-laws latest chain mail is the least of my concerns.

If having a trojan on your smart phone is scarier than people reading through every single private email you've written for years then what on earth do you do with it?

[Azazel]

I too am planning on messing with the 45 free days I received to Station games, and since I had the Station Pass, it means I have numerous different games to play.

Was shocked to see all of my SWG possessions and decorated housing still survived, but somehow Sony lost 4 of my characters in EQ during server merges. I was entertaining the thought of happily exploring my old haunts in EQ, but obviously that's been majorly sidetracked (if anyone is interested I posted the full drama of missing characters on another forum).

I lost a couple of characters as well. Lower-level mules that happened to have all of my wealth on them. When I contacted sony last time I had a trial to get them restored, they asked me to supply the character names. I don't recall their names since I haven't played in 5 years, and when I did it was on old computers, so I don't even have any eq.opts files with them on them around anymore... at this point, SOE didn't bother replying to my email, since clearly it was too hard to look up the details n my account and see what was deleted...

[Salamok]

Great, so it is good to see that PSN being completely down is not enough to stop Sony from releasing PS3 patches that further disable your system.  When I turned my system on tonight I noticed a system 'upgrade' was available and went ahead and installed it thinking maybe PSN is coming back online... What the F was I thinking, now Netflix wont work at all, at this point my PS3 may as well be a brick.

[taolurker]

I too am planning on messing with the 45 free days I received to Station games, and since I had the Station Pass, it means I have numerous different games to play.

Was shocked to see all of my SWG possessions and decorated housing still survived, but somehow Sony lost 4 of my characters in EQ during server merges. I was entertaining the thought of happily exploring my old haunts in EQ, but obviously that's been majorly sidetracked (if anyone is interested I posted the full drama of missing characters on another forum).

I lost a couple of characters as well. Lower-level mules that happened to have all of my wealth on them. When I contacted sony last time I had a trial to get them restored, they asked me to supply the character names. I don't recall their names since I haven't played in 5 years, and when I did it was on old computers, so I don't even have any eq.opts files with them on them around anymore... at this point, SOE didn't bother replying to my email, since clearly it was too hard to look up the details n my account and see what was deleted...

Well, I did get my characters restored, but mostly because those characters showed on the EQ Players site with their names and all of their equipment showing there. I don't know if your mules will show there, but this was a big factor for my getting characters back (including one that was in existence for almost 11 years).

[Merusk]

SOE's password change server is stilll down and now it's fucking with my ability to watch netflix, which is highly agitating.

[Mrbloodworth]

SOE's password change server is stilll down and now it's fucking with my ability to watch netflix, which is highly agitating.

Humm? My friend changed his password last night no issues, through the console that is. Could this be the regional thing they were talking about?

[Engels]

SOE's password change server is stilll down and now it's fucking with my ability to watch netflix, which is highly agitating.

Humm? My friend changed his password last night no issues, through the console that is. Could this be the regional thing they were talking about?

How is netflix related to SoE?

[Mrbloodworth]

SOE's password change server is stilll down and now it's fucking with my ability to watch netflix, which is highly agitating.

Humm? My friend changed his password last night no issues, through the console that is. Could this be the regional thing they were talking about?

How is netflix related to SoE?

Apparently it now is. last night my friend ALSO was required to renter his user name and password for the netflix service as it was "Disconnect from this device". Update PSN password, then renter your Netflix and you should be good.


I assume Sony ( Not SOE ), decided to remove the device associations with those services that check the device numbers. I assume this matters for SOE games on the PS3.

[Merusk]

SOE's password change server is stilll down and now it's fucking with my ability to watch netflix, which is highly agitating.

Humm? My friend changed his password last night no issues, through the console that is. Could this be the regional thing they were talking about?

How is netflix related to SoE?

I don't know, BW, I tried changing my PS3 login last night and the e-mail was from PSN but the link gave me an SOE error page that said "this site is currently offline."  I tried several times over an hour and then just gave up.  /shrug

Engels: The PS3 requires you to be logged-in to connect to Netflix.  Until the firmware updated you were able to just cancel past the annoying pop up pageto get it to run.  Now it's not letting me do so.

[Mrbloodworth]

My friend was not required to do anything with an e-mail. So, I dunno.  He just signed in with the old, and it asked him for a new one. Then, he simply signed into the netflix account.

[tgr]

We know you're not supposed to kick somebody when they're already down… but we just found a live phishing site running on one of Sony's servers.

[Engels]

Ah, gocha. Netflix to be viewed on a PS3 on PSN, rather than SOE, which as far as I know, is a PC-only thing.

[Merusk]

My friend was not required to do anything with an e-mail. So, I dunno.  He just signed in with the old, and it asked him for a new one. Then, he simply signed into the netflix account.

His PSN acct didn't require a new password?  Mine did and wouldn't let me login with the old one. I had to hit the "Change my password" button which sent me an e-mail.  Did he not update the firmware? :confused:

[Mrbloodworth]

My friend was not required to do anything with an e-mail. So, I dunno.  He just signed in with the old, and it asked him for a new one. Then, he simply signed into the netflix account.

His PSN acct didn't require a new password?  Mine did and wouldn't let me login with the old one. I had to hit the "Change my password" button which sent me an e-mail.  Did he not update the firmware? :confused:

He updated firmware a few days ago. When he logged into the PSN ( ON the PS3 ) with his old username and password he was prompted to change his password, he did so. Then logged into PSN. Then logged into his Netflix account. FIN.


No E-mail, no website. If that makes the steps more clear.

[Fordel]

So which is more annoying, this PSN debacle or the old red ring 360's?

[Strazos]

I don't have a PS3, but I would say this is more annoying than the red rings, simply because my billing/identity info was not at risk with the 360.

[Yegolev]

So which is more annoying, this PSN debacle or the old red ring 360's?

So far, the PSN issue has actually prevented me from spending money, so I guess the red-ring is more annoying.

[Azazel]

I had an E-79 or whatever the video card issues that 360s used to get as a problem. The full time it took for me to get the coffin sent out, send it back to them, and received my refurbished unit was less than the time PSN has been down. When I got my 360 back, they didn't release a patch that fucks up playing games and the basic UI. So even though I barely game on it, I'll go with the PS3 being more annoying.