Sony's PSN down "for a day or two"

[Samwise]

The most annoying thing about the PSN outage is my inability to watch Netflix or Hulu on my TV. 

[Rendakor]

I thought I had heard that it was still possible to watch Netflix even with the PSN down.

[Samwise]

Sure, as long as you watch on your PC or your Roku or whatever.    For some reason the PS3 Netflix client requires you to be signed in to PSN even though all of the content is coming from Netflix directly.

[Mazakiel]

If you have it try to sign in so that it gives you the 'Network down for maintenance' message, and then hit the back button to close the PSN login interface, Netflix will open up and let you watch stuff.  Sometimes you may have to attempt to log in several times as Netflix loads before you're good to go, but as long as you make the attempt and get the network down message, Netflix will let you watch stuff. 

[Samwise]

Hm... I tried something like that during the first few days of the outage, and I could never get the login prompts to go away.  Maybe I just wasn't persistent enough.

[ffc]

Take a game like Brink, they're fucked on PS3 launch if Sony doesn't get it going.  At least Portal 2 got a day or two of sales before the crash, and also has a single player.  From what I've seen of Brink, it's about 98% online... if multiplayer isn't live at launch, there's potential for significant losses. 

Single-player Brink is basically multiplayer with bots. With PSN still out I'm going to wait and possibly skip it in favor of LA Noire next week instead of my original plan of buying both.

Is all this the ultimate result from Sony's removal of OtherOS? Regardless, Sony's incompetence surrounding the handling of this fiasco from security to PR is nightmarish.

[Margalis]

IMO Sony is really fucked here.

MS' strategy as of late is to not have many exclusive titles but instead try to make the 360 the choice for multi-platform games, with timed exclusive maps, heavy marketing and crap like that. These PSN problems play right into those hands. Who the hell is going to get Call of Duty or Madden for the PS3 now?

[Mrbloodworth]

The most annoying thing about the PSN outage is my inability to watch Netflix or Hulu on my TV. 

Just keep trying to sign in, and Netflix will load in the background.

[KallDrexx]

Hm... I tried something like that during the first few days of the outage, and I could never get the login prompts to go away.  Maybe I just wasn't persistent enough.

I read that the PSN login has to fail 3 times before netflix starts playing.

[Fordel]

If you try to load the PSN three times while looking in the bathroom mirror, the guy from the PS3 commercials appears!




So seriously, on a scale of 1 to 10, how fucked is Sony between this and SOE's fuck up?

[tgr]

Does it go to 11?

[Yegolev]

I believe it does.  Particularly when publishers begin to hit on Sony for revenue loss.  Not that Sony gives a shit; I was explaining to my wife just yesterday why the original Sixaxis is a piece of garbage when compared to the DualShock 3.

When Sony put out the online storage system that let me copy my Dragon Age and Demon's Souls saves somewhere besides on their piece of shit console, I really thought I was doing fine.  At this point, I've beaten Portal 2 and am not very interested in incrementing save games which I could lose at any time.  This past weekend, I've been playing Borderlands on 360... not because I have some awesome way to copy my saves off but just because the PS3 makes me ill when I see the XMB.

[Bann]

I've been able to consistently access netflix by just opening netflix on ps3, and telling it to keep trying to sign in. After 3 attempts, netflix is working, and the login thing does not pop back up.

Anyone have a similar workaround for mlb.tv? the same trick seemingly does not work there, and watching baseball on my netbook is not fun. I tip my hat to MLB though, I received an apologetic email from them about the ps3 outage before I ever heard anything from sony with a $5 credit to my account and an explanation of how to get MLB.tv going on different platforms. They have since followed up with another apology email and another $5 dollar credit.

[Yegolev]

I just go to the 360 for netflix now, or check AT+T on-demand.

[KallDrexx]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/05/billion-dollar-psn-outage-may-not-be-fully-remedied-until-may-31.ars

3 more weeks, yay

*edit* and FYI, some commenters on the page are saying that something has changed in the last few days with Netflix/PSN, and now the fail 3 times method isn't working for a bunch of people (and thus Netflix is completely inaccessible)

[Yegolev]

This will answer that burning question: how soon can a corporation build a secure CDN from scratch?

[Soln]

I have to keep remembering: SOE is also down.  While probably not many people here are playing anything from SOE, it's still amazing to me for sub games like EQ2 that people still can't log on.

[rattran]

http://venturebeat.com/2011/05/09/bad-information-spreading-on-playstation-networks-return-date-nothing-new-folks/

I guess even longer than previously thought to rebuild, or maybe less. Sony has no idea!

[Tale]

http://venturebeat.com/2011/05/09/bad-information-spreading-on-playstation-networks-return-date-nothing-new-folks/

I guess even longer than previously thought to rebuild, or maybe less. Sony has no idea!

Quote from that article: "And now Anonymous has no avenue back into Sony’s servers." Way to pin the blame.

[Cadaverine]

Hm... I tried something like that during the first few days of the outage, and I could never get the login prompts to go away.  Maybe I just wasn't persistent enough.

I read that the PSN login has to fail 3 times before netflix starts playing.

Might be for some, but I only have had to attempt to log in to PSN once to get Netflix up, unless I've turned off the Playstation since last I started Netflix, then I'll have to do it twice.  Occasionally, I'll have to sign in to PSN in the middle of watching something.  Though, I was having the exact same issues for a week, or two, before they brought the PSN down, so it's all the same to me.

[Rendakor]

http://venturebeat.com/2011/05/09/bad-information-spreading-on-playstation-networks-return-date-nothing-new-folks/

I guess even longer than previously thought to rebuild, or maybe less. Sony has no idea!

Quote from that article: "And now Anonymous has no avenue back into Sony’s servers." Way to pin the blame.

Did you just skim the article, or are you selectively quoting to make yourself sound like a retard?

Meanwhile, another report from Cnet, the tech news site, is also being called into question. Cnet reported an “exclusive” story that predicted that Anonymous, the hactivist group that has tangled with Sony, planned on a “third attack” against Sony’s web sites. The attack was supposed to happen over the weekend, but it didn’t. Now Cnet said that the attack may have been averted by the publicity and Sony’s reaction to it. Cnet said that the report may have alerted Sony to a new vulnerability, which was closed off. And now Anonymous has no avenue back into Sony’s servers. Sony isn’t being absolutely precise here, but Seybold said in an email, “There is no accuracy to that report. We’re focused on ensuring the security of the network before bringing the services back online.”

Edit: fucked up a quote tag.

[Tale]

Quote from that article: "And now Anonymous has no avenue back into Sony’s servers." Way to pin the blame.

Did you just skim the article, or are you selectively quoting to make yourself sound like a retard?

Meanwhile, another report from Cnet, the tech news site, is also being called into question. Cnet reported an “exclusive” story that predicted that Anonymous, the hactivist group that has tangled with Sony, planned on a “third attack” against Sony’s web sites. The attack was supposed to happen over the weekend, but it didn’t. Now Cnet said that the attack may have been averted by the publicity and Sony’s reaction to it. Cnet said that the report may have alerted Sony to a new vulnerability, which was closed off. And now Anonymous has no avenue back into Sony’s servers. Sony isn’t being absolutely precise here, but Seybold said in an email, “There is no accuracy to that report. We’re focused on ensuring the security of the network before bringing the services back online.”

Edit: fucked up a quote tag.

Sorry, I did just skim it and missed the context.

[Samprimary]

[Outlawedprod]

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/psn-outage-begins-to-hit-retail

[NiX]

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/psn-outage-begins-to-hit-retail

I'd like to see the number of PS3 MW2/Black Ops copies that got traded in over the past 2 weeks.

[WayAbvPar]

I feel for the PS3 gamers...I would be fucking sideways if XBL was down for more than a couple of days. OTOH, I am really enjoying watching Sony twist in the wind.

[Yegolev]

I've already been sideways over the PS3 last year.  Too bad I quit drinking.  I'm sure Dark Souls on 360 will be fantastic.

[Ironwood]

Why'd you quit drinking ?

[Amaron]

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/psn-outage-begins-to-hit-retail

Not having dedicated servers work via the internets is clearly paying off for these people  .   Has anyone seen anything about people going back to PC?   I'm not holding out much hope console FPS players are going to switch to a mouse but we're talking about a LOT of people.  There must be some affect on PC sales.

[01101010]

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/psn-outage-begins-to-hit-retail

Not having dedicated servers work via the internets is clearly paying off for these people  .   Has anyone seen anything about people going back to PC?   I'm not holding out much hope console FPS players are going to switch to a mouse but we're talking about a LOT of people.  There must be some affect on PC sales.

One of my buddies from my Planetside days was a huge PC geek/builder back then. Since, he has gone completely console and his words were something akin to, "I doubt I'll ever go back to sitting in a chair in front of my computer horsing around with a mouse and keyboard. Rather sit in my nice comfy lazyboy with a controller and shoot bitches on my big screen." Take that for what it's worth, but my outlook is that a generation that started gaming on PC shooters is now aged out of it and relies on consoles to scratch the itch... the methadone of old gamers that still need a fix every now and then.

[Amaron]

No I completely agree.   It's just that we're talking about a LOT of people here.   At least some of them will look at the computer they already have and weigh it against buying a new 360 at the cost of their PS3.

[01101010]

No I completely agree.   It's just that we're talking about a LOT of people here.   At least some of them will look at the computer they already have and weigh it against buying a new 360 at the cost of their PS3.

There is that... but how many would take a look at their old rig they been using as a media station and think that they have been outta the PC building game for so long that it is: a) not worth the effort trying to research and piece together another gaming rig with all the new whistles and whirlly lights and/or b) cheaper just to swap into a different console.

My feeling is some will take a glance at the PC situation and feel a sting of nostalgia but realize the proverbial ship has sailed off.

[Tale]

I've got a PS3 and about 5 games. I mostly use it as a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray/InternetTV device (it made my dedicated Blu-Ray player redundant), but I do play the games. This whole PSN thing has made me think about trading it in, switching to an XBox 360 and seeing what that's all about, as I've lost all confidence in Sony's services.

The duration of the downtime beggars belief and they've come across as extremely arrogant towards their customers. You simply can't take your online gaming services offline for three weeks, for any reason, ever. Not even to rebuild them securely. It represents a complete failure of what you offered in the first place and you don't deserve any return customers.

[Paelos]

So it's up to 3 weeks now?

I mean shit, they had the internet up in New Orleans faster than that right?

[Amaron]

There is that... but how many would take a look at their old rig

In the first place I was talking about people who have gaming computers that are only relatively out of date.  A 5 year old gaming computer has about twice the stats a 360 does.   You may be right though that a lot of them suffer under the assumption that this isn't the case.   Really too bad considering a very cheap video card is more than a match for MW2.