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Reply #35 on: April 09, 2011, 04:54:38 AM


Anybody who thinks Atlas Shrugged has a good story, or isn't particularly political, probably would read Das Kapital and think it was a textbook for an economics course.

This is a red herring.  Rand fans have never argued she wasn't political.  Her writings are heavily ideological to even the dimmest reader.

Check upthread for someone arguing it's a good story and not particularly political.
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Reply #36 on: April 15, 2011, 05:58:03 AM

Well so far its standing at a whopping 7% at Rotten Tomatoes

As ever, much entertainment from reading the comments. The Randians are out in force.

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Reply #37 on: April 15, 2011, 07:09:57 AM

Well so far its standing at a whopping 7% at Rotten Tomatoes

As ever, much entertainment from reading the comments. The Randians are out in force.

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Reply #38 on: April 15, 2011, 09:42:21 AM

And of course the one positive review comes from the New York Post.


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Reply #39 on: April 15, 2011, 02:31:18 PM

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Ayn Rand's monumental 1,168-page, 1957 novel gets the low-budget, no-talent treatment and sits there flapping on screen like a bludgeoned seal.

Best movie review evar.

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Reply #40 on: April 15, 2011, 03:28:17 PM

I did not read the article or click the link, but I saw this headline on CNN's frontpage when I was perusing the interwebs this afternoon in a lull at work:

Dating site for 'Atlas Shrugged' fans

 ACK!

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Reply #41 on: April 15, 2011, 04:49:02 PM

Ayn Rand's face would not be my first choice to launch a dating site.

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Reply #42 on: April 16, 2011, 11:26:58 AM

for just like a hundred sixty dollars you too can own this ugly as sin bracelet ~*from the movie*~

http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/bracelet




also, the objectivists are out in force, with a couple of groups turfing comments and user ratings and posting obviously fake stories about packed theatres and cheers at the end for more.
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Reply #43 on: April 16, 2011, 11:43:38 AM

for just like a hundred sixty dollars you too can own this ugly as sin bracelet ~*from the movie*~

http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/bracelet




also, the objectivists are out in force, with a couple of groups turfing comments and user ratings and posting obviously fake stories about packed theatres and cheers at the end for more.

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"did you read Atlas Shrugged because you're different, or are you different because you read Atlas Shrugged?"...

That is a good statement. I think you have pointed out something to me I have thought of for decades. Certain people read certain books and certain books change specific people...assuming the reader has some innate abilities within.

One either "gets it" or doesn't. That is not a happy thought since I feel over 50% of the worlds' population is too stupid to "get it" and thus the minority of us who achieve will only suffer from the works of "democracy" and one idiot-one vote.

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Reply #44 on: April 16, 2011, 11:51:24 AM

for just like a hundred sixty dollars you too can own this ugly as sin bracelet ~*from the movie*~

I love it.  I wish I had less moral fiber so I, too, could make money off of telling idiots how unique and special they were and how only they, the chosen, could really understand the message.   It's worked for thousands of years and will continue to for thousands more.

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Reply #45 on: April 16, 2011, 12:00:18 PM

It's down to 5%. While I believe in capitalism, I wouldn't see a movie to promote an agenda. That's for dumbasses who stage protests to get on the news.

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Reply #46 on: April 16, 2011, 12:22:21 PM

Objectivism does not equal Capitalism, though.

Objectivism might be a way to convice yourself that Capitalism is an ethic way to behave. But Capitalism per se does not need that legitimacy to work (or as it seems right now not work, but thats a different discussion).

Edit: Lets put it this way. Most Capitalists are fine with everybody knowing they are greedy bastards, but Objectivists have the gall to think everybody should thank them for it as well...
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Reply #47 on: April 16, 2011, 12:46:36 PM

If this movie is as bad as everyone's suggesting, I bet it'd make a great Rifftrax.
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Reply #48 on: April 18, 2011, 02:45:34 AM

Well so far its standing at a whopping 7% at Rotten Tomatoes

But it's got an 85% user rating.  awesome, for real

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Reply #49 on: April 18, 2011, 07:53:57 AM

Stef and I saw it Friday night, 7:15pm show.  We showed up at about 7:25 and the theater was actually full, so we sat in the handicap seats with plenty of leg room.

It was actually pretty good, the only acting that really bothered me was brother Taggart, the rest did a decent job.  We both liked the movie on it's face, not 'well it was really good for a 10M budget and being shot in 37 days!', it was entertaining.

People did actually applaud at the end.  I never understand why people do that, no matter how great. So we left quickly to avoid the crowd, and our stolen gimp seats let us do that.

But yeah, not actually as bad as I was expecting from the trailer.  Worth seeing imo.
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Reply #50 on: April 18, 2011, 08:27:05 AM

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Reply #51 on: April 18, 2011, 08:31:49 AM

If the rotten tomatoes reviews didn't scare me off, Nerf's sure did.   why so serious?

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Reply #52 on: April 18, 2011, 10:15:49 AM

Was I the only person who had Nerf on the (very very short) list of posters who might actually see this?

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Reply #53 on: April 18, 2011, 10:47:58 AM

No.

I can think of three more people here who are also possible carriers.

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Reply #54 on: April 18, 2011, 11:45:24 AM

I never understand why people do that, no matter how great. So we left quickly to avoid the crowd, and our stolen gimp seats let us do that.


About as accurate a review of atlas shrugged if ever there was one.

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Reply #55 on: April 18, 2011, 08:19:15 PM

But it's got an 85% user rating.  awesome, for real

It would have been much higher, but about one in five turfed reviews seems to have accidentally given it zero stars. Those posts are sad and it would be interesting to see how many of those posters only had one review and it was for AS. The level of back-patting and "only the chosen will get it and everyone else is to stupid, and reviewers don't like it because they're not allowed" is off the chart.

The coments for the tacky as fuck bracelet are pretty great though. My personal favorite is the guy complaining that the exact components of the metal its made of are unknown and it's described as an "Aluminium alloy". "What's it alloyed with? It could be 50% lead for all we know". Indeed sir, it could. If only there were some sort of entity that had an agency that was empowered to regulate and inspect the attributes of things, apply some sort of standards, determine their safety, and then make all that information known. If only... Oh, and that same guy wanted to know if thesy were really made in the USA, why do they use the British "Aluminium". 

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Reply #56 on: April 18, 2011, 11:51:24 PM

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Reply #57 on: April 19, 2011, 06:04:23 AM

If this movie is as bad as everyone's suggesting, I bet it'd make a great Rifftrax.

i'm making the drinking game once I can see it.

Official title: "Atlas chugged"
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Reply #58 on: April 19, 2011, 06:36:02 AM

But it's got an 85% user rating.  awesome, for real

It would have been much higher, but about one in five turfed reviews seems to have accidentally given it zero stars. Those posts are sad and it would be interesting to see how many of those posters only had one review and it was for AS. The level of back-patting and "only the chosen will get it and everyone else is to stupid, and reviewers don't like it because they're not allowed" is off the chart.

The coments for the tacky as fuck bracelet are pretty great though. My personal favorite is the guy complaining that the exact components of the metal its made of are unknown and it's described as an "Aluminium alloy". "What's it alloyed with? It could be 50% lead for all we know". Indeed sir, it could. If only there were some sort of entity that had an agency that was empowered to regulate and inspect the attributes of things, apply some sort of standards, determine their safety, and then make all that information known. If only... Oh, and that same guy wanted to know if thesy were really made in the USA, why do they use the British "Aluminium". 


I hope you posted that.  awesome, for real

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Reply #59 on: April 27, 2011, 08:26:48 PM

I hear its made 1.7 million in the Box office and Parts 2 and 3 have officially been canceled. No links to confirm though.

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Reply #60 on: April 27, 2011, 08:37:37 PM

Revisiting the gaudy jewelry thread, it seems there's quite a problem with the cheap clasps breaking randomly and the things being lost. Objectivism, is there anything you can make more delicious than just desserts?

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Reply #61 on: April 28, 2011, 09:13:24 AM

I hear its made 1.7 million in the Box office and Parts 2 and 3 have officially been canceled. No links to confirm though.

See, I think Ayn Rand was a crackpot, and haven't read the books, but I'd love to see a film version of Atlas Shrugged that gives it to us with both barrels. At least it can be entertainingly bombastic, and not just a terrible movie, made due to Hollywood shenanigans, that just happens to be based on Atlas Shrugged. That's just sad, and happens all the time. Nothing noteworthy.



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Reply #62 on: May 06, 2011, 09:18:07 AM

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Reply #63 on: April 11, 2012, 01:27:07 PM

So I finally watched this because I had nothing better to do.

Dear God. It's not even full of stars. It's full of bad acting, though. Really, really bad acting. And having read the book almost 20 years ago, I didn't then at my young impressionable age realize how fucking awful the dialog is. It is wretched. The changes they made to force fit the story into a modern context not only don't really make a whole lot of sense, they just accentuate the stupidity of the whole thing. It's hilarious watching bad actors play pampered entitled rich people throwing a fit because "IT'S MINE!" is the highest moral platitude they can come up with.

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Reply #64 on: April 11, 2012, 08:43:41 PM

I bought the DVD, and then it popped up on Netflix.  swamp poop Watched about the first 15 minutes, got terribly bored and turned it off.



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Reply #65 on: April 12, 2012, 01:38:46 AM

So I finally watched this because I had nothing better to do.

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Reply #66 on: April 12, 2012, 09:41:11 AM

What can I say, I like watching shitty movies. Especially if they highlight just how bad Ayn Rand's work really is.

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Reply #67 on: April 12, 2012, 11:06:33 AM


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Reply #68 on: April 12, 2012, 07:59:20 PM


Meh. I own dumber movies. Like the new Star Trek.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?



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Reply #69 on: April 12, 2012, 08:03:50 PM

Arooga! Arooga! Incoming Nerd rage!!

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