What do you do and where?

[Chimpy]

Oh snap I just figured out how to use our corporate employee/project tracking software Vision (the same software we use for timesheets) to look up my coworkers' employee ID numbers and how much they make. Keep in mind that I am not a haxx0r and do not have skillz. HR will be very interested to hear this, I'm sure. 

If you have been working there for more than 6 months, you cannot sue for sex descrimination in pay if you are underpaid vs men.

Thanks to the Supreme Courties the other day.

[bhodi]

Not strictly true. The timer resets every time they talk about pay (such as yearly merit increases) -- You can sue any time, you just can't sue for more than 6 months of back pay.

[voodoolily]

The hilarious thing is that my boss only makes ~10K more than my coworker friend (on my team also) who has only been there 1.5 years. She's like 3 grades below him.

[Chimpy]

The hilarious thing is that my boss only makes ~10K more than my coworker friend (on my team also) who has only been there 1.5 years. She's like 3 grades below him.

Better not tell him, he might sue!

[Nebu]

The hilarious thing is that my boss only makes ~10K more than my coworker friend (on my team also) who has only been there 1.5 years. She's like 3 grades below him.

You want hilarious, my sister makes more as a flight attendant for a major airlines than I do as a professor at a state university.  Nice to know how much education is valued, eh?

[Signe]

But she HELPS people to their seats and gives them snacks!  You make them learn stuff.  She is mini pretzels.  You are broccoli. 

[schild]

The hilarious thing is that my boss only makes ~10K more than my coworker friend (on my team also) who has only been there 1.5 years. She's like 3 grades below him.

You want hilarious, my sister makes more as a flight attendant for a major airlines than I do as a professor at a state university.  Nice to know how much education is valued, eh?

A/S/L?

[Yegolev]

Formal education is valued most by academia.

[Sky]

I used to have the passwords for all the management when I was receiving manager at walmart. Changed our nationality to  african-american and made us all 90 years old +, hoped we'd get a visit from corporate for a photo op :P

The school superintendant in my ghetto city makes as much as the Secretary of State (like $160kish). Yes, Condi. School Supe in a ghetto. They just fired a bunch of janitors to cut costs. Life sucks.

[Nebu]

Formal education is valued most by academia.

If the private sector didn't care so much about formal education, there would be no need for 70-80% of community colleges and small 4-year schools.  The demand for degree granting institutions was created by the private sector, not the academicians.  Beleive me, the academics would prefer fewer schools with increased rigor. 

[Yegolev]

Yeah, true, there are certainly a lot of degree requirements in job profiles, but my take on it is that they want to find someone that has the ability to obtain a degree rather than the associated education.  Counterpoints to my comment would be jobs that require significant education to do such as chemistry and cutting open people for money.

[Nebu]

The reason that so many places require a degree for a job is because there are so many people with degrees that they can get away with it.  If degrees were limited to those that really needed them, then everyone would win.  We'd have fewer people in college that shouldn't be there in the first place and talented people wouldn't have to waste 4 years of their live in school when they would be earning a salary and getting pertinent experience.

In most fields, a college degree is little more than a certificate that demonstrates the student is capable of learning in a structured environment.  Seems like 4 years is a big hoop to make people jump through to get a job that's ultimately just going to retrain them from scratch.  The whole process is pretty broken, even moreso at the PhD level.  There is such a glut of phds that you now see many of them in positions that were held by BS graduates 20 years ago. 

[Strazos]

Holy shit, that was an awesome read. Kind of makes me glad that I am pursuing something else, instead going for my MA or higher.

[Abagadro]

There is such a glut of phds that you now see many of them in positions that were held by BS graduates 20 years ago. 

That's why I'm back being a law talkin guy. Making more now in a lower-stress local government gig than many full professors in my field (as polisci is one of the lower paid disciplines).

[Nebu]

That's why I'm back being a law talkin guy. Making more now in a lower-stress local government gig than many full professors in my field (as polisci is one of the lower paid disciplines).

If you guys knew what I got paid given my educational background and experience, you'd probably laugh.  Patent law is starting to look pretty good.

[Yegolev]

stuff

I totally agree with every bit of that.  If you knew what I got paid without having even an associate's degree, you'd likely punch me in the balls.

[Signe]

But Nebu is doing LOVE work.  He's making the world a bitter place.  We should stand in awe of him.  I'm being serial.

Fuck.  I meant better. 

[Yegolev]

Every piece of code I write teaches the world to sing.  In perfect harmony, no less.

[WayAbvPar]

Every piece of code I write teaches the world to sing.  In perfect harmony, no less.

I felt compelled to buy you something-

[Furiously]

Every piece of code I write teaches the world to sing.  In perfect harmony, no less.

You're working on Rock Band?

[Signe]

He's got rithim.

[Yegolev]

Thanks, WAP, but I get that shit for free.

[Sky]

The SO and I don't talk salary. I'm 100% school of hard knocks experience, she's got a Master degree. She does a little better than me, but only a couple grand...so...we don't talk salary. That's gotta hurt (and she also has two Bachelor degrees!).

I hated school, except music school, that was teh pwn. Final exam: play a gig...rock on!

[MrHat]

USPTO is always hiring.  It pays roughly 50% above standard GS levels, and is a very stress free job for a BS requirement.

Shitty part is living near DC.  So much monies.  Or living away from DC and TRAVELING to work.

[Montague]

/derail

Age: 38

Loc: North Pole, Alaska. Seriously.

Occ: I track maintenance records for a small airline. The planes are ancient WWII era prop-driven cargo planes that are in danger of falling out of the sky at any given moment and the engines explode with frightening regularity. I'm getting married in three weeks to a graphic artist and we plan on exploiting her talent to support me starting a design shop in the near future.

/derail off, please do continue.  :-D

[Nebu]

Occ: I track maintenance records for a small airline. The planes are ancient WWII era prop-driven cargo planes that are in danger of falling out of the sky at any given moment and the engines explode with frightening regularity.

Delta?


<ok, that was much funnier in the 80's>

[Montague]

Delta?


<ok, that was much funnier in the 80's>

Alas no, Delta has abandoned the lucrative Alaskan King Salmon air shipping market. My mother is flying Delta into Fairbanks for the wedding though, and I've bitten my tongue every time she asks about them. Not that it would matter too much since she will likely be heavily sedated the entire trip.

[Signe]

You didn't derail.  Everyone else did.  Congrats on marrying the woman in Alaska.  You will be the envy of everyone else.  Here is a picture of a wedding gift:

[Sky]

Oh I want to give a gift, too!

[voodoolily]

Oh I want to give a gift, too!

You're supposed to save that one for the baby shower!

[Montague]

Awwwww, guys you shouldn't have!

[Nebu]

Awwwww, guys you shouldn't have!

I like this guy already!

[HaemishM]

With a Monarch avatar, how could you not like him?

[Bandit]

Never noticed this thread before now...

Age: 30
 
Location: London, Ontario, Canada

Profession: Urban and Regional Planner ironically for a large Rural municipality. I hoped to play Sim City for a living, but  I basically throw up red tape instead.

[Muggi]

Age: 31

Loc: Philadelphia, PA

I own a business that sells aviation equipment all up and down the East Coast and to the Military.