Classic Ultima Online: IPY2 Launch date: Feb 11th

[koro]

Apparently Az has been working on stat gain rates.

[Slayerik]

I love this thing.   I really only played traditional UO hardcore so this is right up my ally.

Except
For
Magery

A.k.a. how I waste a bunch of skill points to get recall on every character I'll ever make.   Would be awesome to have some options for this one must have ability.

Runebooks, you put recall scrolls in em. Dont need much magery then!

[koro]

I also found out someone placed a fucking villa in the area north of Brit past the mountains. A VILLA. How the fuck.

[Azaroth]

People get pretty serious about UO.

[Xuri]

I'm roleplaying a bard being jailed after having gotten too drunk in a tavern and started a bar-brawl after singing loud, obnoxious songs about the appearance of the other tavern-patrons' mothers. Now my character paces forth and back in his cell, his only belonging being an out of tune lute. A round-house kick to the head in the bar-brawl knocked a few braincells loose and made him forget nearly all his barding skills, which he is now trying to remember (i.e. I keep double-clicking the damn lute while pacing forth and back).



Originally he was in the cell just across the hall, but another player randomly logged in there, and after the embarrassing silence that occurred had passed, he shivved my character with a poisonous shiv he had hidden about his person. After nearly dying (2 hp remaining when poison wore off), the guards threw my character in a different cell.

[Nyght]

You know CAPTCHA is only gonna slow em down a tad, right Az?

[Soulflame]

CAPTCHA?  Where's this implemented?

[Nyght]

Eh, lots of bots. Mining and lumberjacking is overrun with em if you believe the forums. So AZ said he was gonna put a CAPTCHA in for those.

[Soulflame]

Sonova... any details?  I enjoy UO mining, but if I have to deal with a CAPTCHA, that could quickly get annoying.

[Nyght]

Well, not in yet so I don't have any details of coarse.

And I wouldn't really expect Az to be forthcoming with any info on this.

In the mean time, I wonder if anybody knows if the concept of Deep Water is in for fishing on IPY. Can you GM fishing from the shore? I plan to make or buy a boat in any case, but am curious to know.

Also, this is really awesome Az. I am reliving 1998 for the most part. Having a blast.

[cosapi]

You know CAPTCHA is only gonna slow em down a tad, right Az?

CAPTCHA would make mining a chore but if it got rid of the bots i would tolerate it.

[Nyght]

CAPTCHA would make mining a chore but if it got rid of the bots i would tolerate it.

Well, that was my point. I don't believe CAPTCHA will get rid of the bots. They will just work around it.

There seems to be a lot of GM activity to try and quell it some. I think that is the best approach really.

[koro]

You know CAPTCHA is only gonna slow em down a tad, right Az?

CAPTCHA would make mining a chore but if it got rid of the bots i would tolerate it.

Hope you're not on IPY then, since IPY2 has no colored ore. 

[Azaroth]

We're hesitating on the CAPTCHA just a little mostly because we know it'll be an annoyance.

We track resource gatherers. If you're mining, fishing, lumberjacking, whatever... we know about it. We do the rounds regularly to check, and I'd say that players are attended 80-90% of the time. The problem is being blown out of proportion on the forums (obviously).

If we do a CAPTCHA however, it'll hopefully be less intrusive than you're imagining, and perhaps even a little "fun".

[NiX]

Wait, so how does this captcha work? I'm getting the impression you're not talking about a login one.

[Soulflame]

If you interrupt and block my mining, it will not be fun.

I'll simply stop playing altogether.

[Slayerik]

Speaking of playing, why aren't 90% of the people that showed interest in working together? We have a solid guild base and basically the F13ers besides a couple of us are non-existant. Contact me.

[Nyght]

The surest way to get me to leave a game, is to join a guild. Any guild. I prefer to play solo.

[Cadaverine]

I poked my head in to the game, but much like Eve, I don't think I am capable of getting my head around this game.

[Soulflame]

Well, how's the mining around the guild house?  Is there a forge and anvil?

I picked Cove for now because I thought that few people would go there to level mining and blacksmithing.  Turns out it's a major city or something.   

[koro]

Speaking of playing, why aren't 90% of the people that showed interest in working together? We have a solid guild base and basically the F13ers besides a couple of us are non-existant. Contact me.

Only about 1/3 of the PA forums folks that showed interest stuck around past the first weekend. Most everyone else was interested in crafting and their enthusiasm just completely evaporated after seeing how slow gains were or were tired of being PK'd every time they went out to do something. We have a fairly solid core of about half a dozen people, but only two of us are any kind of fighting character, and everyone else has been frantically lumberjacking and mining like crazy to try to afford houses and reagent stockpiles for magery later on.

[Amaron]

Yea I was having fun but I quit today.   The murder system is a bit to carebear for me.

[WindupAtheist]

Only about 1/3 of the PA forums folks that showed interest stuck around past the first weekend. Most everyone else was interested in crafting and their enthusiasm just completely evaporated after seeing how slow gains were or were tired of being PK'd every time they went out to do something.

Baffling, given that this never happened in real UO and is merely an invention of butthurt carebears who couldn't be bothered to just recall to an easy escape.

 

[Nyght]

I think the PK reference might refer to training fighting skills, which gain much faster in dungeons, where there is no recall.  I haven't been there my self as my little fisher woman with 50 archery can barely scratch a skeleton. Takes 5 minutes to kill one so I can't imagine going to dungeons any time soon.

I have to think this will be an interesting experiment to see if player justice can hold the murder rate down. I have my doubts at this point, but ya never know.

Edited to add: Actually I see far more complaints from the other side on the forums , Big disappointments that they can't dry loot and rape at will.

[Soulflame]

Player justice won't work.

As to the crafting skills, after I saw how slowly they were going up, I thought to myself "You know, I'll probably GM blacksmithing about the time everyone else has stopped playing."

It made me a little sad.

[Nyght]

Yep, it does remind me of how painful it really was. It took me years to have 'completed' characters. Its just that we were new and there was nothing else... so it was all good.

I believe I will continue to plug along, although I am unable to entice my GF to come play here. As a result, we decided to once more rescue our UO accounts from the verge of death and play some together again. We met in UO in '98.

Oh and
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/02/lord-british-explains-what-ultima-online-did-better-than-anyone.ars
 very brief word with RG

[WayAbvPar]

Speaking of playing, why aren't 90% of the people that showed interest in working together? We have a solid guild base and basically the F13ers besides a couple of us are non-existant. Contact me.

I logged into the voice chat the first night, struggled for 2 hours to get the goddamned game running, then was ignored when I asked basic questions like how the fuck to get rezzed (I couldn't remember if it was shrines or healers or what), how to skin kills, etc. I realize they were retard basic questions, but it would have been nice if SOMEONE at least acknowledged them. I eventually got frustrated and just quit. Too much work and bullshit with almost zero fun. Pity, since I was really looking forward to it.

[Sky]

Wait, people are complaining about gatherer bots? Is this a carebear server? The UO I remember would rejoice to find botting miners: easy ore.

Also, nobody has ever answered my repeated questions about what version of thievery rules are active.

[Nyght]

Not sure if I know all the answers on stealing and the Codex seems to have lost it's page if there was any info there to begin with.

What I do know is there is a huge discussion about in combat stealing on the forums right now. Combat stealing is disallowed. Town stealing is I believe.

An yes people are killing the botters when they're are out of town but the botters are running in Yew and inside city limits elsewhere as well. They're are taking counts for it though and been red has its pains.


side note on all the edits.. chemo sucks

[koro]

I especially like the thief-rage over house looting being essentially out of the picture. Apparently homeowners should have to take on massive amounts of risk and go through elaborate safety rituals every time they even look at their front door funny or else they deserve to lose everything in their homes, while the house thief has the massive risk of... having to throw away another death robe? Getting only half of a house's loot (gasp, shock!) if they get caught midway through?

And apparently combat stealing is in, but the thief can't be in War mode.

[Slayerik]

Speaking of playing, why aren't 90% of the people that showed interest in working together? We have a solid guild base and basically the F13ers besides a couple of us are non-existant. Contact me.

I logged into the voice chat the first night, struggled for 2 hours to get the goddamned game running, then was ignored when I asked basic questions like how the fuck to get rezzed (I couldn't remember if it was shrines or healers or what), how to skin kills, etc. I realize they were retard basic questions, but it would have been nice if SOMEONE at least acknowledged them. I eventually got frustrated and just quit. Too much work and bullshit with almost zero fun. Pity, since I was really looking forward to it.

Sorry man, it was pretty hectic for me with babies and stuff and I didn't have the presence I had hoped for on launch weekend.

If you want to give it another go, I can't promise I'll be around all the time but the guys that are should be helpful. It was all pretty chaotic that first day or two.

[NiX]

I logged into the voice chat the first night, struggled for 2 hours to get the goddamned game running, then was ignored when I asked basic questions like how the fuck to get rezzed (I couldn't remember if it was shrines or healers or what), how to skin kills, etc. I realize they were retard basic questions, but it would have been nice if SOMEONE at least acknowledged them. I eventually got frustrated and just quit. Too much work and bullshit with almost zero fun. Pity, since I was really looking forward to it.

Make sure they can actually hear you. The first time I popped in with my mic plugged in they couldn't hear me and I thought they were just ignoring me.

[Sky]

the house thief has the massive risk of... having to throw away another death robe?

The main problem with the awesome thief mechanics in UO have always been the shitty thieves, those just out to push the rules and fuck people over. Bank thieves, noto thieves, sploiter thieves, every system UO had put in had a gaggle of tards to get it pulled right back out again.

It was really depressing as I loved my thief characters.

[WayAbvPar]

I logged into the voice chat the first night, struggled for 2 hours to get the goddamned game running, then was ignored when I asked basic questions like how the fuck to get rezzed (I couldn't remember if it was shrines or healers or what), how to skin kills, etc. I realize they were retard basic questions, but it would have been nice if SOMEONE at least acknowledged them. I eventually got frustrated and just quit. Too much work and bullshit with almost zero fun. Pity, since I was really looking forward to it.

Make sure they can actually hear you. The first time I popped in with my mic plugged in they couldn't hear me and I thought they were just ignoring me.

No, I got responses when said things like 'test? test?'...just dead silence when I had a question. Every time.

Can't say I am too interested in working with that level of cooperation. And I am a week behind now, so really no point.

[Pringles]

I logged into the voice chat the first night, struggled for 2 hours to get the goddamned game running, then was ignored when I asked basic questions like how the fuck to get rezzed (I couldn't remember if it was shrines or healers or what), how to skin kills, etc. I realize they were retard basic questions, but it would have been nice if SOMEONE at least acknowledged them. I eventually got frustrated and just quit. Too much work and bullshit with almost zero fun. Pity, since I was really looking forward to it.

Make sure they can actually hear you. The first time I popped in with my mic plugged in they couldn't hear me and I thought they were just ignoring me.

No, I got responses when said things like 'test? test?'...just dead silence when I had a question. Every time.

Can't say I am too interested in working with that level of cooperation. And I am a week behind now, so really no point.

did you run it as admin?

I had a similar experience one night, but i noticed they could only hear me when I alt tabbed to the voice app to say test test, re ran as admin and it worked out better.