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Mandella
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Reply #1225 on: December 18, 2018, 11:42:39 AM

I always liked the design of the Russian Rockets. That 4 engine thing is very stylish. Space fashion wars are important.

And the Korolev Cross looks totes cool...

Bad news, looks like weather and technical glitches have scrubbed *everybody* today (as of this, I think the DIV Heavy has a twenty percent chance of go tonight). But all are rescheduled for tomorrow, plus an Indian launch!
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!


Reply #1226 on: December 18, 2018, 03:04:23 PM

Getting awfully crowded in my sky.

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Reply #1227 on: December 25, 2018, 08:33:19 PM

Haven't even has a chance to look at this yet, but for the hardcore planetary colonization geeks out there NASA just put out an extensive 3D sim of a hundred year into a future Mars colony on Steam.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/224000/Project_Eagle_A_3D_Interactive_Mars_Base/

Not a game, apparently just a walkthough.


Edited after "playing:"

Well, that took longer to download than to check out. Even with low expectations I was expecting a little more -- maybe some popup building designs or actual calculations on life support and all. Maybe even some enter-able buildings.

Perhaps some enterprising modder will turn it into a DOOM level or something and make it a bit more interesting...
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Reply #1228 on: December 31, 2018, 10:09:35 AM

For those who still give a crap about the Moon.



Quote
China's Chang'e-4 probe changes orbit to prepare for moon landing


China's Chang'e-4 probe entered a planned orbit Sunday morning to prepare for the first-ever soft landing on the far side of the moon, the China National Space Administration (CNSA) announced.

The probe has entered an elliptical lunar orbit with the perilune at about 15 kilometers and the apolune at about 100 kilometers at 08:55, Beijing Time, said CNSA.

Since the Chang'e-4 entered the lunar orbit on Dec. 12, the ground control center in Beijing has trimmed the probe's orbit twice, and tested the communication link between the probe and the relay satellite Queqiao, or Magpie Bridge, which is operating in the halo orbit around the second Lagrangian (L2) point of the earth-moon system.

The space engineers also checked the imaging instruments and ranging detectors on the probe to prepare for the landing.

The control center will choose a proper time to land the probe on the far side of the moon, according to CNSA.

The Chang'e-4 probe, including a lander and a rover, was launched by a Long March-3B carrier rocket on Dec. 8 from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province.

The peoples glorious CGI Simulation.

Sometimes irony is pretty ironic.
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Reply #1229 on: January 04, 2019, 11:37:00 AM

Ultima Thule doing a little dance for you.


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Reply #1230 on: January 11, 2019, 02:09:40 AM

"How I look on Tinder vs Real Life"




 Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #1231 on: January 11, 2019, 02:06:45 PM

I know there is a use for static, ground test models. But this feels like taking the piss:



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Reply #1232 on: January 11, 2019, 07:27:12 PM

12 hours after the reveal, and on a Friday evening:

We are firing 10% of our staff!



Also, you can tell Elon is true humanist:



Fuck that guy.

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Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you and other troops you control.


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Reply #1233 on: January 11, 2019, 10:27:46 PM

So Elon Musk is basically running his space program like a game developer?

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Reply #1234 on: January 13, 2019, 11:45:49 AM

Nice panorama, lunar farside -- with rover!








Farside is important not just for bragging rights, but the other side of the moon is rather geologically different than the near side, so very interesting both from the science and future exploration/exploitation angles...

Looks like the mp4 isn't playing in an embed, so here is the nice rotating scan.

https://i.imgur.com/ckt5DI0.mp4
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Reply #1235 on: January 14, 2019, 07:04:26 AM

12 hours after the reveal, and on a Friday evening:

We are firing 10% of our staff!



Also, you can tell Elon is true humanist:



Fuck that guy.

There is no nice way to fire people, so really it's about showing respect.  Personally, would I rather be fired in this fashion?  Turns out....maybe yes?  Seems cowardly, but the net result might be better for some.

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Reply #1236 on: January 14, 2019, 12:02:50 PM

12 hours after the reveal, and on a Friday evening:

We are firing 10% of our staff!



Also, you can tell Elon is true humanist:



Fuck that guy.

There is no nice way to fire people, so really it's about showing respect.  Personally, would I rather be fired in this fashion?  Turns out....maybe yes?  Seems cowardly, but the net result might be better for some.

I've started to comment on this several times and ended up deleting it, not just because I'm sure Calapine writes me off as a Musk fanboi, but also because as an employer myself I know I know just enough to know that any speculation I have on what is going on business-wise inside of SpaceX is probably off the mark. (Coincidentally, we also recently had to let go about ten percent of our workforce -- although we only employ about twenty-five persons, not 6000.) I do know for a fact that there is no right way to lay people off that is not going to piss off somebody, but this "wait for the email" thing strikes me as a good way to piss *everybody* off -- not just the folks being laid off.

I also have no idea who was the architect of the process here. Did Musk jump in and demand it? Was it everyone's favorite Shotwell? Some (more likely really) unknown HR director? I do think that it would result in more people Monday morning going ahead and shopping around that resume that they prepared "just in case."

There are actually a lot of small rocket startups right now hiring, although how many of them will be around in a year or two is debatable.
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Reply #1237 on: Today at 12:30:46 PM

No pretty pictures, but I thought it was notable that China is quite happy with Chang'e-4, and plan to launch Chang'e-5 by the end of this year to do an actual sample return. They are taking the stance of evaluating every mission before deciding on the next one, but the overall plan is that these are the first steps to an international lunar base.

Will they actually do it? Who knows? The Chinese government is subject to just as much division and internal upset as anybody else's, so these plans might change tomorrow. One thing is probable though, that they have the actual economic might and technical acumen to carry their plans out at the moment -- unlike, say, Russia.


http://xinhuanet.com/english/2019-01/14/c_137743306.htm
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Reply #1238 on: Today at 04:22:22 PM

No pretty pictures, but I thought it was notable that China is quite happy with Chang'e-4, and plan to launch Chang'e-5 by the end of this year to do an actual sample return. They are taking the stance of evaluating every mission before deciding on the next one, but the overall plan is that these are the first steps to an international lunar base.

Will they actually do it? Who knows? The Chinese government is subject to just as much division and internal upset as anybody else's, so these plans might change tomorrow. One thing is probable though, that they have the actual economic might and technical acumen to carry their plans out at the moment -- unlike, say, Russia.


http://xinhuanet.com/english/2019-01/14/c_137743306.htm

I reported this on Monday smiley


https://twitter.com/AuerSusan/status/1084855829537402880

That's not a dig at you Mandella, just plugging my space feed for people who really want to read a lot about, well, space.
I am already spamming this forum so much, so trying to reserve my space thread posts for important events or US-focused news (know your audience and all that).



Edit: Will they do it? Oh, definitely. Chang'e 5  is going to be based on Chang'e 4 with added requirements for sample return. Same as Chang'e 4 was initially built as an identical spare for Chang'e 3 and then adapted for the far side mission.
Technically it's totally in their reach.

Plus, Chang'e 6, 7, 8, are already in planning. The Chinese space programme is somewhat slow but very methodical: Gradatim Ferociter (That's Mandarin for 'Step by Step, Ferociously')
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Reply #1239 on: Today at 04:53:38 PM

By "will they do that" I meant the eventual manned moonbase. Lots of Chang'e's between here and there, and while the nice thing about authoritarian dictatorships is the long term planning you can get, the bad thing is that sometimes folks get tired of the authoritarian dictatorships and plans change.

And yes, I do know that the US's system of changing everything up every four to eight years with no regard but keeping the pork flowing is also rather unreliable for the long term -- everything involving human planning is unreliable, and you enjoy your progress when you get it.
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