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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Signed up, but sadly, my characters in GA are only in the mid-30s. However, I have been logging in more. Hope they slacken the rope for beta on GA level requirements.
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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DLRiley
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The existence does not mean that they are heavily used however.
In GA case it doesn't matter. Hitting 9/10 of your shots doesn't even insure a kill 90% of the time. Most people take off running if you hit 5 consecutive shots, and given a 1:1 ratio between shot fired and shot hit doesn't get someone to even below 15% before you hit 0% energy. And that is assuming there are differences in levels. Its been an epic flaw with the game that they won't be fixed because it works fine for pve. I happen to like that style. I'm not a huge fan of the counterstrike/Medal of Honer/Battlefield style of shooters I prefer them more arcadey and lacking head-shots. What you speak of is not a flaw, its a design decision. It has little to do with PvE, but it does make for some fun PvE encounters. Planetside played about the same way. I think your energy issues are a bit overblown however. Your %'s are off. I believe they fully intended the system to work for PvP. It didn't and to stop the bleeding they re-focused on PVE where the system is actually fun. It takes too long to kill a player even when their standing still. TF2 is arcady, this is mmo combat distilled through guns and lazer swords. Its a flaw because even the GA devs admit their game is pve as oppose to the "hardcore" tribes game their designing.
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Nija
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Signed up, but sadly, my characters in GA are only in the mid-30s. However, I have been logging in more. Hope they slacken the rope for beta on GA level requirements.
There isn't a reason to be higher than mid 30s in GA. That's where my characters are and I'm fine with it.
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Mrbloodworth
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I believe they fully intended the system to work for PvP. It didn't and to stop the bleeding they re-focused on PVE where the system is actually fun. It takes too long to kill a player even when their standing still. TF2 is arcady, this is mmo combat distilled through guns and lazer swords. Its a flaw because even the GA devs admit their game is pve as oppose to the "hardcore" tribes game their designing.
There isn't any thing wrong with the PvP.
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DLRiley
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If you say so.
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Mrbloodworth
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I only see you bring up this huge obvious flaw. 
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DLRiley
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I only see you bring up this huge obvious flaw.  Who plays this game for the pvp 
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Mrbloodworth
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I only see you bring up this huge obvious flaw.  Who plays this game for the pvp  All the people asking for the player made PvP/Challange system? All the people that asked for 4v4 arenas? All the ones hosting the numerous, gaming site sponsored, PvP events? All the agencies playing the AvA game? People like me who enjoy both?
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DLRiley
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WoW's an esport 
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Mrbloodworth
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« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 07:53:45 AM by Mrbloodworth »
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Mrbloodworth
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what?
I had no idea how to respond to " Wow is an Esport" because I have no idea what it has to do with anything so, yeah, I don't know. So I linked the largest PvP tracking site for the title, because clearly, no one plays the PvP.
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« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 08:42:40 AM by Mrbloodworth »
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Typhon
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Dear Sir/Madame,
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Happy posting!
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Malakili
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what?
I had no idea how to respond to " Wow is an Esport" because I have no idea what it has to do with anything so, yeah, I don't know. So I linked the largest PvP tracking site for the title, because clearly, no one plays the PvP. Sorry, I missed the context the first time around. In any event, my problem with global agenda isn't really the PvP per se, its just the mix of PvE and PvP being so apparently interdependent. Hopefully this new Tribes title will cut the fat, so to speak. Actually, I still think if they had marketed GA has a team based shooter with some persistent gear and level elements, I'd dislike it less. Its the fact that they trumped up this territory domination AvA stuff that made it sound pseudo Planetside ish that really left a bad taste in my mouth when I learned the game was basically just team death match with a few twists.
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Sky
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I love my TV an' hug my TV an' call it 'George'.
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The existence does not mean that they are heavily used however.
I have been playing GA since launch, and have not felt really any situation I thought was suspect.
Two words: APB
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Mrbloodworth
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The existence does not mean that they are heavily used however.
I have been playing GA since launch, and have not felt really any situation I thought was suspect.
Two words: APB The choise of engine does not in any way shape or form predict the ability for hacks to be used, the use of the engine, net and strictness checks built into your game does. If by the mere fact of using unreal tech meant that your game is now 100% hackable all the time by the same hacks for a decade then no one would ever use it, and it would not be one of the premier engines for AAA development. Lets not be silly. Don't blame the middle ware for individual development shortsightedness. Hack prevention is on the individual developer, not the engine maker.
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LC
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Cheats and hacks keep things interesting.
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Ratman_tf
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Cheats and hacks keep things interesting.
Like an abusive partner keeps a marriage interesting?
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Dark_MadMax
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Tribes had one of the most amazing network engines for its times. I can see how they could have bought it just for that.
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Bzalthek
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"Use the Soy Sauce, Luke!" WHOM, ZASH, CLISH CLASH! "Umeboshi Kenobi!! NOOO!!!"
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By more I assume you mean anything?
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"Pity hurricanes aren't actually caused by gays; I would take a shot in the mouth right now if it meant wiping out these chucklefucks." ~WayAbvPar
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Ratman_tf
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SHAZBOT!
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Mrbloodworth
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By more I assume you mean anything?
I already know they make good shooters, but yes, I would like to see more.
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Ratman_tf
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Oh snap. If they just keep the RMT out of it... (  )
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Draegan
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Looks fun.
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Mrbloodworth
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They say they are going the league of legends model, more than the current GA model.
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Malakili
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I'm sort of under the impression that they are working on two Tribes games - Tribes Ascend which is a normal Tribes game, and Tribes Universe which is the MMO. But it may be that the name has just changed some and I'm confused.
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Malakili
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Sooo, not the MMO? It still seems unclear to me. The price model isn't my preference, but I like Tribes enough that I'm willing to bide my time and see where this goes (MMO or not).
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Fordel
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What was that horse shit?
Check out our new Tribes game where we run on the ground!
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Ratman_tf
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What was that horse shit?
Check out our new Tribes game where we run on the ground!
... did you miss the part where the article said there would be jetpacks and jumpskiing? Or maybe the video that showed everyone jumping around with their jetpacks? Hell, the guy who got a laser snipe on the jumper gave me such a nostalgasm.
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Fordel
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It looks like T:Vengeance 2.0. Maybe they won't fuck it up and I'll get to lose my Saturdays to retrieving again. Doubt it.
The actual Tribes successor was going to be that Instant Action game, from GarageGames, but IA imploded or some shit, no idea what happened to Legions.
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Hoax
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l33t kiddie
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The Global Agenda guys who couldn't get jetpack physics to not be balls in their own game are going to shit on some really quality IP? Awesome. 
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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